The Cost of Doing Business - Vote Democrat?



It's not even so much about the votes. This demographic can barely read , you think they're willing to stand in line and vote?

The real issue is far-left ideology. They don't wanna fuck with freedom of speech and freedom of expression. They'd rather let these people collect welfare while they rot in their situation.

These people are saturated in negative media and social influences: "White man holdin' me down, we be victims, the solution is flashing bling bling and getting rims on my car. Fuck retirement, being a pimp is where it's at."

What do you think would happen if we moved 5 hoodrats out of the hood, away from hip-hop and put him in a different environment, where all his peers were aiming to be financially successful, trying to present themselves well, be functional, beneficial, productive members of society.

You think these hoodrats won't adapt and learn these values?

Why are we scared to promote these values through social programs? We'll solve this problem in less than 50 years if we had balls and realized that freedom of expression ain't all that.

That is so spot on I can't say it enough. But again, people on the left are telling them this. Take Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson for example. And like I pointed out in another thread if you're white and say this you're fucked because then it IMMEDIATELY becomes one of the "you racist blah blah". Believe me, it has happened about 50 times this year already to me.
 
When it comes to welfare, I feel about it like this: For those who truly need it, they can get it, such as a single mom who HAS a job or a recently unemployed American who IS looking for a job.

What pisses me off is one day I went to my local grocery store, got my few things, and went in line. In front of me was a young Hispanic with about 6 kids. Whatever , that's fine. They bought all kinds of shit and handed the lady food stamps. Okay fine, maybe they need them. When I walked outside though, I saw the SAME exact couple, driving a brand new Cadillac escalade with huge chrome rims and a custom chrome grill. That's a 40k car yet you need foodstamps. It's fucking bullshit and I'm glad that prick ended up getting arrested for dealing drugs.


I posted something VERY similar to this in another thread. My cousin operates a few fruit stands, one of those outside few table deals. He does alright with them but he has most of them based in lower-income areas. I remember sitting with him one day when he was just starting out and saw the same thing over and over again.

These guys would roll up in a brand new fucking escalade, denali, whatever with 24" rims. We are talking about a $60k car here. And you know what most of them did? Pay with food stamps.

Tell me this isn't a problem more so in some races and I will tell you that you are a fucking moron. Tell me I'm racist and I will say fuck you because you and I both know where and among who this happens most with.
 
I rely on my welfare check, food stamps and section 8 housing to survive. Its bad enough when my check is late because it totally throws me into a bad mood. If my assistance got cut off completely I dont know what Id do. I'd probably go kill someone.

Can you afford a gun being on welfare ?
 
"Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality instituted for the defense of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all." - Adam Smith

I know he has another one too saying that as the rich grow richer, the government will grow larger to protect their monies. I would tend to agree.
 
He strongly believes here in America things like welfare keep them at bay, i.e. from "rising up" or revolting. Now I can see where he is coming from. He wants to give them just enough to get by so they are satisfied (yes I know they aren't totally satisfied, but enough to keep them from being so pissed off).

related research :

"Crime rises when US welfare recipients run short of cash at the end of the month. This column discusses research that links the timing of financially-motivated crime and the timing of welfare payments. Cities that make monthly welfare payments see a clear monthly crime cycle, whereas cities that spread out the payments do not."

Welfare payments and crime | vox - Research-based policy analysis and commentary from leading economists
 
i dont know what i would do without my welfare check

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Keeping the proletariat from revolting is not bad rational I suppose.
 
i dont know what i would do without my welfare check

This fucked welfare check is one of the sources of crisis.
In UK so many losers have lived with government checks, refusing every kind of job offers.
Why work if checks cover bills and food?

I hope things will change soon.
 
That is a pretty common theory amongst rich elites, and has been for years. The rich are vastly outnumbered, so in order to keep people in line you have to throw them scraps and make them believe that the American dream can be all theirs if they work harder and don't kill/rob the rich folks. It's no coincidence that most people with old money are of this mindset, whereas most self-made people are more conservative since they had to work for theirs and don't like the idea of giving a handout to a lazy fuck. There is something to be said for both mindsets and like everything else the truth is generally somewhere in the middle.

great post.

i was actually thinking about this exact topic today, about whether we just have to put up with higher unemployment because some people are just unemployable and its actually cheaper (to society) to give them handouts then to try to get them to get jobs.

Training is expensive, and like some criminals, some people aren't getting their shit together no matter what.
 
didn't read the whole thread but basically he's saying to take injustices laying down because it could be worse? Isn't that how it becomes worse? Too many people taking shit lying down.
 
War isn't free.

exactly, all these fucking bases are crazy expensive and are why european countries can enjoy spending less on defense and more on social services.

We spend a trillion dollars a year on defense, not including these wars. You're welcome for the subsidy, I hope we can stop providing it and take care of our own house.
 
Ok, so last night I was engaged in about a 2 hour long conversation with an older guy, probably 65 years. He just recently retired and he voted democrat and he told me why. He said something to the tune of "It is the cost of doing business". Now I respect this guy, he's made a shitload of cash and just recently retired with milllllions. He doesn't always vote democrat, but he had an opinion on this whole "welfare state" that I have never heard before.

Basically what he said is he just looks at things like welfare and all that garbage (yes I am very conservative economically I will admit that) are just the cost of doing business here in America. He basically just looks at America as a place to conduct business in a sane environment where corruption does not run rampant (libtards shut up I know there is corruption here I am talking about what he was talking about, places like Mexico), in places like Mexico where literally *everything* is done behind the scenes. You go to jail whether or not you can pay the cop $50 on the spot. You want to smuggle drugs? Give me $10k and I will look the other way.

He strongly believes here in America things like welfare keep them at bay, i.e. from "rising up" or revolting. Now I can see where he is coming from. He wants to give them just enough to get by so they are satisfied (yes I know they aren't totally satisfied, but enough to keep them from being so pissed off).

What I said to him then is at what point do we stop, when is giving them too much enough. He agreed and says he doesn't know, but at this point we need to give them a little more.

So I just want to know what some of you political gurus think about this. This kind of shocked me as it was literally a 180 from what I normally here from the democrats which is "Poor him poor me give me free shit to help me on my feet".

I'd like to hear what some of you guys think about this (popeye I know you're always talking about politics lol)

Sounds like your typical elitist democrat. Their idea of racial relations is giving the minorities a check so they will shut the fuck up and vote democrat every 4 years.

The liberals want to make the conservatives out to be racist. The conservatives are the people who live, work and socializes with the minorities. The liberal elitist are the ones that look down their pointed noses at the backward and smelly but "unfortunate" minorities.

I detest and wish to stick my fist in the faces of liberal idiots like this.
 
Sounds like your typical elitist democrat. Their idea of racial relations is giving the minorities a check so they will shut the fuck up and vote democrat every 4 years.

The liberals want to make the conservatives out to be racist. The conservatives are the people who live, work and socializes with the minorities. The liberal elitist are the ones that look down their pointed noses at the backward and smelly but "unfortunate" minorities.

I detest and wish to stick my fist in the faces of liberal idiots like this.

What? That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Don't be an idiot.

Conservatives are as whitebread as they come. They want nothing to do with Cinco de Mayo, foreign languages, foreign food, foreign customs, culture, clothing, whatever.

Unless they are evangelicals or religious people.
 
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I'm from communist Russia and I believe in the conservative values.
This land gives everyone the safety and the opportunity to be great. The small amount of people that get it will hire the bums who dont. You see thats the key.

Welfare state isnt what made America great, but it will be what destroys it one day. My mother land is a prime example. Responsibility for your livelihood and welfare needs to be encouraged by the government. The founding fathers did, now its a fucking mess.
 
What? That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Don't be an idiot.

Conservatives are as whitebread as they come. They want nothing to do with Cinco de Mayo, foreign languages, foreign food, foreign customs, culture, clothing, whatever.

Unless they are evangelicals or religious people.

Oh please name me a conservative who's not into this

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What? That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Don't be an idiot.

Conservatives are as whitebread as they come. They want nothing to do with Cinco de Mayo, foreign languages, foreign food, foreign customs, culture, clothing, whatever.

Unless they are evangelicals or religious people.

I'm from the USA and I'd like our Country to have one primary language which is English. I could care less about Cinco de Mayo and all the other festivals foreigners bring to this country.

People who migrate to America should be the ones who learn the history of this country and learn the English language. The United States is a melting pot and accepts all cultures who decide to legally come and go through legal channels to citizenship.

There's no way the U.S should have to cater to anybody else besides to the people (citizens) and the constitution.