Stephen Hawking Says the Universe Was Not Created by God
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I don't think that religion (aside from being the main cause of most major wars throughout history) is a bad thing [/sarcasm]... So I guess I can't blame "believers" for their blind ignorance in defending their current perception of reality. But if you REALLY look at the facts with an open mind, instead of desperately holding onto what you have been taught your entire life (that there is some sort of divine creator), you would quickly realize that there is no concrete or factual evidence that supports your cause. While on the other hand, there are countless facts that support the truth.
However, if believing in something greater helps you to sleep at night and ease your anxiety about the fact that one day you will just cripple over and die into non-existence. Then who is everyone else to tell you differently. Just have 'faith'.
However, if believing in something greater helps you to sleep at night and ease your anxiety about the fact that one day you will just cripple over and die into non-existence. Then who is everyone else to tell you differently. Just have 'faith'.
Personaly, I think organized religion has a lot to answer for and that for sure there is no bearded man in the sky that watches our every move (I hope not, or I'm defo going to hell for jacking off). But the idea that an organized universe with rules comes from nothing seems equaly as absurd as a omni present man that lives in the clouds. I think there is an answer that we can't comprehend yet, but will one day. Just a thought.
nobody knows either way. I like how atheists prance around and believe in theories that can't even be proven. They are just theories... You really think we know what the hell happened billions of years ago? We barely got out of the stone age. Until we become some super intelligent race that can travel through out the universe and know everything thing there is to know about it I don't think either side really has a case.
I normally don't get into these debates, but all you raging atheists are starting to become worse than the religious fanatics... Most of you will buy any bull shit theory from scientist just like any religious fanatic buys bull shit feed to them at church. Both groups are a bunch of sheep just eating out of different hands.
I normally don't get into these debates, but all you raging atheists are starting to become worse than the religious fanatics... Most of you will buy any bull shit theory from scientist just like any religious fanatic buys bull shit feed to them at church. Both groups are a bunch of sheep just eating out of different hands.
I was annoyed by this quote, which seems to be putting words in his mouth. (Oh the irony.)
"Hawking had seemed to accept the role of God in the creation of the universe."
Hawking, like any properly, properly intelligent person, is an atheist. (That's not saying religionists are thick, just that geniuses see god for what it is - man's need to require structure and reason.)
By the way zealots, who created god?
The trouble is with your take on this is you go down that pathetic route of atheists being fanatics. Most, like me, don't care. I don't choose science over religion. I choose no religion because it's completely obsurd! I don't care about scientific theory or some religionists take on something they've never understood. I care that in my rational mind, religion, of any kind, is total bollocks.
"Hawking had seemed to accept the role of God in the creation of the universe."
Hawking, like any properly, properly intelligent person, is an atheist. (That's not saying religionists are thick, just that geniuses see god for what it is - man's need to require structure and reason.)
By the way zealots, who created god?
The trouble is with your take on this is you go down that pathetic route of atheists being fanatics. Most, like me, don't care. I don't choose science over religion. I choose no religion because it's completely obsurd! I don't care about scientific theory or some religionists take on something they've never understood. I care that in my rational mind, religion, of any kind, is total bollocks.
The TRUTH is he as no more of a fucking clue as to what is going on as the you or me. We are all on the same playing field when it come to this subject.
He is just giving his opinion based on what he/we all can see (which is not much).
Did God (most think of some super human figure) create us and everything we see? I dont think so, but there is some reason for it, what it is no one knows.
There has to be some sort of design to everything, just look at yourself what could have came up the design of just humans? Had to be something with just a little intelligence don't you think? Or did we just evolve out of nothing?
To just think what we evolved out of nothing and just happened to come to be is pretty simple thinking.
Is there some kingdom in the sky (heaven) no. Is there something going on we humans cannot see, don't be stupid. You can label it what ever you want but God is about the best we can come up with, a power greater than ourselves is how I define it.
He is just giving his opinion based on what he/we all can see (which is not much).
Did God (most think of some super human figure) create us and everything we see? I dont think so, but there is some reason for it, what it is no one knows.
There has to be some sort of design to everything, just look at yourself what could have came up the design of just humans? Had to be something with just a little intelligence don't you think? Or did we just evolve out of nothing?
To just think what we evolved out of nothing and just happened to come to be is pretty simple thinking.
Is there some kingdom in the sky (heaven) no. Is there something going on we humans cannot see, don't be stupid. You can label it what ever you want but God is about the best we can come up with, a power greater than ourselves is how I define it.
There are flaws in your logic. See, while I might be a raving atheist, I don't necessarily believe in every theory that every scientist comes out with. Do I believe in the big bang theory, not entirely. Do I believe in evolution (which is more recently proven to be fact, rather than theory) yes. I believe in things that provide sufficient evidence that seem reasonable.
When there are things that can't fully be understood, I don't cling to an imaginary deity in the sky as the answer to all of my problems, instead I accept the fact that I do not know the answer yet.
Choosing to not believe in a god based on the lack of evidence of one existing is not sheep like behavior. Blindly following the notion that there is some sort of supreme being in the clouds that will sentence you to an eternity in hell if your sins aren't forgiven, well... I think you get the picture.
Talking about Hawking and Physics on WF is like asking a baby to build a skyscraper. I'm not touching this thread.
Everyone please take a time-out to read [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Belief-God-Good-Bad-Irrelevant/dp/0830833773"]this book[/ame] and then we can resume a proper debate on this topic.
I find it funny that people think it can only be one way or the other, why not a little bit of both?
Futurama to the rescue:
Watch Futurama Episode 9 – A Clockwork Origin
Futurama to the rescue:
Watch Futurama Episode 9 – A Clockwork Origin
