and to answer your second question even though I don't follow the bible teachings I can see how the hell story would be a very good moral teaching. Since everyone isn't a fan of spanking the shit out of your kids for being bad these days the next best thing would be to scare some sense into them. I actually believe a lot of the shitty people and arrogant prick kids in this world come from families with no church background or parents who never taught their children morals or whats right and wrong. Just look at the culture difference from just 50-60 years ago when religion was still very big. Kids weren't pompous assholes and today most kids grow up not giving a flying fuck whats right and whats wrong. The bible and religious teachings at least do a good job at being a moral backing for families.
But i've gone on too long, This has nothing to do with creation and your just religion bashing. Which seems to be the new trend among "rebel bad asses" this decade.
I'm not religion bashing, just able to see it as stupid and find the fear of hell childish.
Think about this:
1. Believe in god and he turns out to not exist: you lose nothing.
2. Don't believe and he turns out to exist, then he's so childish he'll make you die a horrible and painful death for all eternity.
That's just patently stupid. And of course easy to brainwash a child with, which is one reason why I'm so massively against the teaching of religion in schools. It's not morally right to force a child to think a certain way through the fear of a painful death. A child is like a sponge, they absorb everything and they rarely question anything, therefore "teaching" religion is abhorrent.
Also, to counter your "moral" argument. I think, off the top of my head, only 7% of the UK actively attend church and only 30% or so consider themselves religious. (I actually think these figures are far too high. I don't have a single friend that is not an atheist. In fact I struggle to think of more than 3 or 4 people I have ever known that are religious in any way.) We have less murder and crime in general than a predominantly religious country, such as the US for example.
Of course I could be well wide of the mark, but on the face of it, my generalised guesswork doesn't tally with your generalised guesswork.
And for the record my Mum was forced to attend church for various pathetic reasons and I even attended Sunday school, until I was about 6 or 7, when I decided the whole thing was stupid and got "asked" to not attend again. (My local church was nearly closed down recently because no one went. Sunday school stopped years ago because there's no one to teach it and few to attend.)
I hope one day the church is abolished, because it has nothing to offer beyond teaching bigotry and hatred. We all have an innate moral compass regardless; we all know right and wrong, because it's within us. Religion teaches us fuck all. It just merely claims to have taught shit we already knew (as well as an unbending lack of respect for others and a condescending self-righteous closed mindedness)... and it then wants payment for it.
well I disagree. Dinosaurs are great! did you know that they actually found a triceratops about 100 years ago or so on some island. meaning that humans lived along side of them... unless you have actually evidence that they haven't. Here are some facts bro [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0yGP8tbYQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0yGP8tbYQ[/ame]
