Stephen Hawking Says the Universe Was Not Created by God

You're the fucking ignorant idiot.
Did I say anything about hitler. I said eugenics - they had em all over the world, and originated from Darwin's followers.
FYI. I come from USSR, and trust me it was an atheistic dictatorship. Millions of Christians were murdered and tortured for their beliefs. Lots were sent to Siberia. Thats where I'm from by the way - Know why I'm in America. Freedom of religion. USA saved us. You fuck face.


By the way. Read the last part of my last statement.
 


You're the fucking ignorant idiot.
Did I say anything about hitler. I said eugenics - they had em all over the world, and originated from Darwin's followers.
FYI. I come from USSR, and trust me its was an atheistic dictatorship. Millions of Christions were murdered and torchured for their beliefs. Lots were sent to Siberia. Thats were I'm from by the way - Know why I'm in America. Freedoms of religion. USA saved us. You fuck face.


By the way. Read the last part of my last statement.

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Russ86 - first of all its 6000 not 5000.
God doesn't have days, weeks, or years. Most Christians just measure the timeline of the new testament, the bible, and current history. Thats why we have BC (before Christ). Which is proven to be accurate with archeological findings and historic records. More then any book ever written. FACT. If you believe Aristotle was real, so was Abraham, David, Jesus, and Paul. Actually they have more evidence. How long anything took before that no body knows.
That's not what they say before we knew about carbon dating. Talking about consistency. Your religion is make it up as we go. Remember how the world was flat? Remember the killing of innocent women for witchcraft? Remember the Crusades? How many people died?

and Clyde - do you really make $x,xxx a day. People that do dont say. Do you ever have anything of value to say. You're like the annoying child making noise, when adults are trying to have a conversation.

To me it makes more sense that Aliens planted life on earth. Then pretending like lighting and soup made amino acids, which then somehow formed into proteins, which then found their way to pre-programed DNA, and wolla we have life. Anybody that wants to call me stupid, explain this process to me, and tell me you're not adding faith to your evolutionary equation.
Oh wow, I didn't know I was talking to *that* guy. You know, the one that loses out on logical arguments and retaliate with ad-hominem attacks.

John Chow, Jon Volk, Shoemoney just to name a few are people that make that money and talk about it. I'm sure there's more.

No, your shit doesn't make any sense. A guy walking on water, died and resurrected who's never consistent about anything he says. Virgin birth.

How does that make any sense? If you pray to Jesus, I pray to David Blaine for his card tricks.

Again,
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Rocks found with evidence of oxygen producing bacteria. Dated 3.7 billion year ago.
Bacteria Fossils - Crystalinks
I dont know how it all wend down but here it is.

Also methane brakes down upon contact with uv rays.


Kryptonite things was a joke. Oxygen to His Experiment, Superman - Kryptonite. Get it.

I'm answering the evidence of whether oxygen was present during that time period question, with the tools of evolutionists. Do you see any irregularities. Who cares if the article is from 1999, the fossil is just as old today. I never claimed the earth is 6 thousand years old. However your theory is full of irregularities and contradictions. As you can see.
There was no oxygen when life first started. The life started which started turning CO2 to oxygen.

Now you're saying there is an irregularity because one of the first forms of bacteria (life) turned carbon dioxide into oxygen?

Where the fuck is there any irregularity in that explanation?

And finally, who cares what the rest of the world thinks? Simply because a lot of people think something doesn't mean it's right.
 
LOL at all the fucktards here defending their position... Does it really matter?

I mean why doesn't God come make a post saying "Look bitches im real... chill out with this shit already"


Obviously God doesn't really give a fuck about this thread... or whether humans think hes real or not...

ps...

God is real... dogmatic religions are all bullshit
 
To me it makes more sense that Aliens planted life on earth. Then pretending like lighting and soup made amino acids, which then somehow formed into proteins, which then found their way to pre-programed DNA, and wolla we have life. Anybody that wants to call me stupid, explain this process to me, and tell me you're not adding faith to your evolutionary equation.

How life started has nothing to do with evolution.
 
The Crusades.
The Inquisition.
The Witch/Heretic Hunts.


At least 1 million people murdered (some numbers as high as 3 million) in the name of the Christian god over a span of 1500 years.

There really isn't much difference between Christianity and Islam except maybe that, money and education has enabled the christians to bring their hate to forums instead of taking it to the streets.
 
Who gives a shit! I may start to give a shit if god starts sending me bank wires.
 
The Crusades.
The Inquisition.
The Witch/Heretic Hunts.


At least 1 million people murdered (some numbers as high as 3 million) in the name of the Christian god over a span of 1500 years.

There really isn't much difference between Christianity and Islam except maybe that, money and education has enabled the christians to bring their hate to forums instead of taking it to the streets.


The Crusades were done in response to Muslim expansion. We were trying to save the Jews as always, and didn't get involved till the last moment.
"The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule and their campaigns were launched in response to a call from the Christian Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuk Turks into Anatolia." wiki quote. You tell me should they have gotten involved?

What gets me upset is the fact that Darwinists always bring up these really really old points. But always sweep under the rug its own very very resent wacky deadly ideas to humanity.
In my opinion people are to blame, because they can take any idea and find a way to distort it into evil.

FYI - I have as much right to speak as the opposition on this forum. Its a discussion not hate... Liberals.
 
The KW is "Originally"? Then it turned into a bloodbath and somewhere along the way that makes it OK for Christianity to take away millions of lives? Stop being an apologists and start owning up to your well-spread lies.

There's nothing to be discussed anymore if everytime somebody presents something you turn a blind eye and pick and choose scientific evidence like you pick and chose part of Christianity to follow..

BTW, I'm curious, what are the "deadly darwinists wacky ideas to society" that you speak of? Do you even know what you're saying here?
 
The Crusades were done in response to Muslim expansion. We were trying to save the Jews as always, and didn't get involved till the last moment.
"The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule and their campaigns were launched in response to a call from the Christian Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuk Turks into Anatolia." wiki quote. You tell me should they have gotten involved?

What gets me upset is the fact that Darwinists always bring up these really really old points. But always sweep under the rug its own very very resent wacky deadly ideas to humanity.
In my opinion people are to blame, because they can take any idea and find a way to distort it into evil.

FYI - I have as much right to speak as the opposition on this forum. Its a discussion not hate... Liberals.

Atheists have never started wars in the name of atheism... They have started wars, but that doesn't make them atheist wars. LOL

We also have nothing to prove or justify. Remember that we have no belief system in a religious sense. You have the belief system, the dogma and the centuries of fallacy. We simply don't believe. Ergo, we have nothing to prove or justify. You have the belief and you have everything to prove. Religion is not the default, atheism is. You don't get born into a religion. You get born an atheist and then have a religion and god chosen for you, which you're then pushed into believing.

We also don't have a solid, "set in stone" system or guide. We have everything, yes, everything, that is not religion (and even religion if we feel like it) to chose or not chose to believe or use in whatever way we want. Our opinion and our knowledge changes, we have no leader and we have no church. We don't need to make donations and we don't need to read books to learn shit about our opinion. We don't need to find elders and ask their permission. We don't need groups of similar people to congregate together and reinforce each others stupidity. We don't need to scare our kids in to a belief. We don't need to explain why we are right, or justify it (but we do because there's many like you who can't see beyond the end of their indocrintated fragile opinion).

Remember, we are the default opinion and only religion needs to justify it's position.

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On the evolution topic, if ANY of you doubt evolution you need to go watch BBC Planet Earth. Especially the caves one (where the animals live on sulfer dioxide and eventually lose their eyes and pigmentation over time in the dark, or the silk worms create mucus webs and have glowing blue lights for heads to attract the insects, or where the snakes develop thermal sight so they can catch the bats in the dark).

There is no fucking way someone can watch that shit and still deny evolution.
 
What gets me upset is the fact that Darwinists always bring up these really really old points. But always sweep under the rug its own very very resent wacky deadly ideas to humanity.


Which ideas? Darwin came a lot closer to understanding the world as it actually is than anyone had before him.

Nature is cruel as fuck. Again, go watch those BBC Planet Earth videos. Its always some animal trying to eat another animal (or that animal's young). The entire animal kingdom is built on natural selection. That's not a wacky deadly idea to humanity. That's the fucking way it is. You can chose to ignore something this obvious because you don't want to believe we evolved (and not from Monkys btw, just a common ancestor) but you're lying to yourself and ignoring mountains of evidence gathered over hundreds of years in favor of a book that gets stuff wrong from the very first chapter.

Darwin didn't even know what a cell was, or how DNA undergoes random mutations. He didn't understand the how (to that degree), and he still got the overall theory largely correct. Now fast forward to the present, we understand much more of the the how, and people still deny the obvious.

100 years from now there will still be people who believe that evolution is false, just like there are still people today that think the world is flat. They will still be just as wrong as these beliefs have always been.
 
Which ideas? Darwin came a lot closer to understanding the world as it actually is than anyone had before him.

Nature is cruel as fuck. Again, go watch those BBC Planet Earth videos. Its always some animal trying to eat another animal (or that animal's young). The entire animal kingdom is built on natural selection. That's not a wacky deadly idea to humanity. That's the fucking way it is. You can chose to ignore something this obvious because you don't want to believe we evolved (and not from Monkys btw, just a common ancestor) but you're lying to yourself and ignoring mountains of evidence gathered over hundreds of years in favor of a book that gets stuff wrong from the very first chapter.

Darwin didn't even know what a cell was, or how DNA undergoes random mutations. He didn't understand the how (to that degree), and he still got the overall theory largely correct. Now fast forward to the present, we understand much more of the the how, and people still deny the obvious.

100 years from now there will still be people who believe that evolution is false, just like there are still people today that think the world is flat. They will still be just as wrong as these beliefs have always been.

So you dont mind eugenics? Okay then. Nothing matters its true, why should we care about the mentally and physically ill. Lets kill em all.


Plus I never said evolution isnt there. See you assume to much.
But there is two kinds Micro and Macro. (this will start another long topic)
Thats why we have thousands of dog breeds. But they stay dogs.
All mutations we study have a negative outcome. Including the very famous, virus becoming immune to medication example. You're just guessing mutation was it, I call it pure faith.
 
This is more Philosophical then Scientific. So dont panic.
Its just a side thought.

ARE JEWISH PEOPLE A BLESSED RACE?

I believe the Bible tells us so. But I'm not if sure its the case in real life.
 
So you dont mind eugenics? Okay then. Nothing matters its true, why should we care about the mentally and physically ill. Lets kill em all.


Plus I never said evolution isnt there. See you assume to much.
But there is two kinds Micro and Macro. (this will start another long topic)
Thats why we have thousands of dog breeds. But they stay dogs.
All mutations we study have a negative outcome. Including the very famous, virus becoming immune to medication example. You're just guessing mutation was it, I call it pure faith.

THERE ARE NOT TWO FUCKING KINDS OF EVOLUTION. ALL EVOLUTION IS MICRO. ENOUGH MICRO = SIGNIFICANT CHANGE OR WHAT YOU ARE CALLING MACRO. THEY DON'T "STAY DOGS". DOGS ARE DESCENDANTS OF WOLVES. ARE WOLVES AND DOGS THE SAME THING?

ALL MUTATIONS DO NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE OUTCOME. DOES A MUTATION CHANGING AN ANIMAL'S EXTERIOR COLORS (ALLOWING IT TO CAMOUFLAGE ITSELF) HAVE A NEGATIVE OUTCOME?

God damn it. I quit. You are either clinically retarded or you are trolling us.