So I Just Got A Call From Convert 2 Media...

How is C2M with bizopps? Do they have great offers? Never tried you guys out... I'll sign up tomorrow, feel free to call me and say "Who the fuck is this" :)
 


well shit, whenever i sign up to a new network i expect a call from an odd number within a day or so. that way i don't have to get tough with anybody on the phone and give em a tongue thrashing for asking me personal questions.
 
I think I saw a video somewhere where Ruck basically says he must know all the traffic sources that an affiliate sends. Landing pages, sources, etc. Cloaking is fine but he must know whats going on behind the scenes.

I know where he is coming from on this ... but that's enough for someone who is in PPC not to work with him - which Ruck is fine with. The thing is for PPC guys we get aff networks competing with us all the time. I have had Aff managers and network owners take my keywords and run them behind my back (or even sell them - so it makes it that much harder to trace).

In my opinion, the paranoid/007 manner in which Ruck conducts business is a little too aggressive. There's a lot of network choices out there so...

btw, what did the caller ID say? Ruck, you hung up on him ... so why should he call you back (whats the point you already verified his #). If you wouldnt have hung up on him maybe this thread wouldnt exist?
 
How is C2M with bizopps? Do they have great offers? Never tried you guys out... I'll sign up tomorrow, feel free to call me and say "Who the fuck is this" :)


im on their email list, and everyday offers are coming down, and new ones going up. don't know whats up with that tbh
 
^^^ That's easy. We have been capping most of our bizopps daily or we weed out non-performers or offers just die. The only reason you get a lot from us is that I choose on the network level to notify when this happens versus most networks not saying anything.
 
Ruck's a great guy on WickedFire, but I gotta agree, this is pretty iffy. I answer the phone with my name now, because I do a lot of business stuff over the phone, but I remember those after school specials telling kids to never give out their name over the phone to a strange caller.

hahaha.
 
I guess what we can all take from this is if a random person calls you and starts asking questions it is probably Ruck.
 
In my opinion, the paranoid/007 manner in which Ruck conducts business is a little too aggressive. There's a lot of network choices out there so...
I think it's a perfectly fine way of conducting business. Better to let a few affiliates go because network approval standards are really strict than to let in fraud. I've been on the advertiser side before, and I can assure you that some advertisers will pull an offer from a network at the first sign of fraud. Fraud has gotten so out of hand recently that that level of paranoia is necessary to survive. Networks are a dime a dozen these days - What's going to survive, the one that has fraudulent publishers get through, or the one that stays clean?
 
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Yeah, gotta give props to Ruck on this. Those of you bitching about the process need to really read up on affiliate fraud and realize that these measures Ruck takes that you find annoying actually help you in the long run.

Less fraud on C2M means more money for everyone involved.

So stop your bitching and props to Ruck for going the extra mile to protect C2M.
 
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so i guess i should call C2M back eh?... some one called me about a week ago saying they'd call me back in 24 hours after they spoke to their manager. Just figured they didnt want a newbie affiliate :(
 
The amount of fraudulent applications is getting ridiculous across all networks with increasingly sophisticated strategies for opening accounts.

Kudos to Ruck and C2M for going down this route.
 
The amount of fraudulent applications is getting ridiculous across all networks with increasingly sophisticated strategies for opening accounts.

Yep, I blame the "guru" nut huggers:

http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate...ys-arbitrage-conspiracy-conf-call-tonite.html

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Coincidence? I think not.