Should a BST thread really be that cheap?

Raise BST Thread Price?

  • Make it $500

    Votes: 23 39.0%

  • Raise it only slightly

    Votes: 7 11.9%

  • Keep it at $36

    Votes: 29 49.2%
  • Total voters
    59


Paper_Chase said:
If you are having trouble differentiating the low quality services from the high quality services then you are a fucking dumbass and it is your own fault.

As far as BST pricing goes, why not do it based on the cost of the service provided?

Slanging $10 bookmark submissions? Pay $30.
Slanging $100 private blog network posts? Pay $300.

This way you have to make sure your opening sales thread post is top notch (backed with testimonials, faqs, and nice shiny images). You are also alot more committed to providing a quality service and stellar customer support.
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That sounds like some Obama shit. ^^
 
boatBurner said:
I'm not sure how this thread will be received, but let's try to maximize this discussion while we can.

First and foremost, WickedFire - start charging a membership fee. I will pay. No seriously, when you have a community member asking to pay you, it might be worth considering. Then again, this might actually piss off a vet or two, which are really the reason I'm around in the first place. But I support this idea. If paid though, I suppose the ongoing community would expect to see some further developments, and that might just stink of ass pain for you guys.

So this thread, and the above-mentioned idea, is an integrity question, right? Will charging a fee, or raising an already established fee for BST, stop irrelevant memberships/services? Obviously not, there will always be some self-righteous idiot who thinks he has the key to all that is holy. However, I do believe there is a tipping point to it all, a fine line that will separate the more dedicated marketers from the "oh hai" memberships and from people like me who have nothing of value to offer, but can throw up a snazzy wordpress site that would lead you to believe differently in BST.

I mean, think of it in terms of generations. By all means, I'm a new generation SEO - in fact, I don't rate the title quite yet. But I take very seriously the contributions I make to the few communities I spend my time in. Eventually I'll become a worthy contributor to the communities I've been loyal to (or I'll start flipping burgers).

Weed out the idiots from the get-go. Aside from some of the great, and equally useless, information around these parts, your BST forum could be a stand-alone selling point.

There's money in it for you, and here's hoping there's authority in it for us.
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I ain't paying sheeeeeeeeiiiiiittttt.. I think Jon should redirect monies to me since I bring a certain..... Love/hate relationship to this forum. Hit me up for my PayPal
 
I appreciate the people saying let it rest, but while it's on the table.. I think one small thing that would improve the forum for buyers (edit: and probably sellers too): when providers pay again after a thread closes then for shit's sake reopen the existing thread, don't make a new one, and another new one, with links to the last eighteen threads, etc.

I really miss the threads by the best providers with hundreds of replies spanning multiple years.

$.02
 
LOLz, you want more changes? Better watch what you ask for.

Whiners gonna whine.


Why 36$, why?
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Paper_Chase said:
If you are having trouble differentiating the low quality services from the high quality services then you are a fucking dumbass and it is your own fault.

As far as BST pricing goes, why not do it based on the cost of the service provided?

Slanging $10 bookmark submissions? Pay $30.
Slanging $100 private blog network posts? Pay $300.

This way you have to make sure your opening sales thread post is top notch (backed with testimonials, faqs, and nice shiny images). You are also alot more committed to providing a quality service and stellar customer support.
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It's not a problem differentiating low quality services from high quality services, it's a huge time suck though, and a massive pain in the ass to have a few good threads amongst thousands that are shit, with no reliable way to filter them based on current forum metrics. (You can't filter by replies because of the 10 day rule, for example).
 
Paper_Chase said:
As far as BST pricing goes, why not do it based on the cost of the service provided?

Slanging $10 bookmark submissions? Pay $30.
Slanging $100 private blog network posts? Pay $300.
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Because the actual price of the service is irrelevant. That social bookmark provider could very easily be only paying $2 in captcha costs. A $100 blog network is gonna face far more costs than that, content, buying the domains, hosting, non-linked content to lower footprints, management software, spinning... the list goes on.

Not to mention, that $100 blog network may only be used by people for their more quality sites; I know I do. But you can bet that everyone's gonna use the social bookmarking service without a second thought - whether it's for emds or authority sites. I'd guess someone like river has made far more off his SBBomb than most blog network providers have made.
 
IMO different sections should have different costs.

Writing BSTs should not have their prices increased IMO, because those usually generate less revenue. It would be very hard to maintain a writing BST if the cost was 50 dollars per 10 day thread.
 
1. No doubt people are ungrateful as fuck. This forum used to be 100% free for a long period of time. The moment wf started charging $$$, a lot of people on here started implying that wf is not a useful place anymore

2. Price of services doesn't have anything to do with quality. Weeding out low price sellers will only lead to buyers loss.
 
I know you said your argument is flawed, but still just saying. no offense


wayn3 said:
No more indians (hello sir, do you have any more work for me please?)
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You're talking about protecting the first world sellers.

I think, giving a shit about buyers makes more sense.

Why would someone pay $100 for something if it can be obtained at similar quality for 1/3rd of the price?

wayn3 said:
Makes it easier to find quality services
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Who determines what are "quality services"? Definitely not the sellers. I think it is a complicated choice and it is best left to the buyers to figure out.
 
I honestly think $36 is too low. I'm a BST seller so I'm kind of shooting myself in the face by saying this -but over the course of this year I've probably paid something like $400 in wicked fees for my BST threads and I've made back many multiples of that. And frankly I've made even more then that before I ever had a service using the knowledge on here in my other non IM businesses. I really wouldn't mind paying a bit more for an ROI like that.

IMO what Wicked could do is test out a "choose your price" pricing model -make $50 the minimum and if someone wants to pay any more then that let them choose the number. I certainly would on occasion for everything this forum has done for me. I doubt it's going to get rid of junk sellers -lets face it, BST sections on forums (ALL forums) attract a lot of the must-make-money-to-pay-this-months-rent-by-tuesday crowd -and a lot of them don't give a shit about what they're putting out there so long as they get paid (like your average guy in washington) I trust buyers to make the distinction there.
 
nanexo said:
http://www.wickedfire.com/suggestion-box/67823-dp-style-review-plz-extortion-twist.html

back to 2009 this whole deal has been brought up before and then this change was made with 36 threads which still fails in some ways - anyway cant complain just wish threads would last longer

keep the 36usd thread for new vendors
optionally allow only elite or trusted vendors to purchase stickies at a rate of 1200usd/month like on BHW - allow 300 a week stickies for those wanting to test out services if there is demand

AND/OR make an elite vendor section which should bewhere the main links/seo section is now and the new vendors in a subforum in the back so elite vendors get more traffic

so sticky is the way to go with normal/new/broke vendors fighting it out in the lowly halls below
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+1. Spoken like a true prodigy.
 
jacky8 said:
I know you said your argument is flawed, but still just saying. no offense
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thread was meant as a joke

jacky8 said:
You're talking about protecting the first world sellers.
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i want to get rid of them because tehyre annoying, not because i need protection. I get two dozen cold skype-approaches a week from indians trying to sling their stupid "services".

jacky8 said:
Who determines what are "quality services"? Definitely not the sellers. I think it is a complicated choice and it is best left to the buyers to figure out.
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supply and demand bro
 
nanexo said:
http://www.wickedfire.com/suggestion-box/67823-dp-style-review-plz-extortion-twist.html

back to 2009 this whole deal has been brought up before and then this change was made with 36 threads which still fails in some ways - anyway cant complain just wish threads would last longer

keep the 36usd thread for new vendors
optionally allow only elite or trusted vendors to purchase stickies at a rate of 1200usd/month like on BHW - allow 300 a week stickies for those wanting to test out services if there is demand

AND/OR make an elite vendor section which should bewhere the main links/seo section is now and the new vendors in a subforum in the back so elite vendors get more traffic

so sticky is the way to go with normal/new/broke vendors fighting it out in the lowly halls below
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I like the sticky idea ;)
 
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