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SCHOOL SHOOTING ... FUCK
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Except gun control people always seize on incidents like this to try and introduce ineffectual laws that would have never prevented the incident in the first place.
The nutcase that did this STOLE the guns he used. He tried to buy a gun from a sporting goods store but gave up because of the waiting period. In other words, the existing gun laws worked. It prevented a crazy fuck that snapped from being able to go buy a gun and shoot up a school.
However, he was still able to get guns because he stole them. How do you prevent that? What gun laws would have prevented that? None - so the whole fucking discussion is irrelevant and just another example of people using an isolated tragedy to push their personal agenda on everyone else.
I'd rub my hands with glee, because the smashing would be them falling through the false floor into the deep pit behind the back door, and my family will eat well this winter.
Seriously, the gun debate is a fucking waste of time. Nobody's position is going to change remotely from having it.
A more interesting question is - why is the United States so violent (and it's obviously not JUST guns - as per the Switzerland example)?
I think this was kind of my point.. why are they so violent? Many other countries have violent movies, violent video games, guns and whatever else the "experts" like to blame this sort of thing on.. yet this kind of thing doesn't happen there.
Why?
I've thought the same thing for years. A lot of people state how the US was founded as the reason, but there are plenty of cases of countries that were founded on revolution that have no ingrained culture of violence (the French and Spanish spring to mind).
I guess it's just history and culture in general - Wild West, the "American Dream" etc etc
Oh and the people that posted earlier in the thread that draw comparisons with the fact that cars also kill people (and therefore use it as a counter argument that if guns should be banned then so should cars) are idiots. Have a think about why that isn't a logical comparison...
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LukeP, i think you misunderstand the way the CNN website works.
When you click "World" , it doesnt take you to a page of news that the rest of the world see's, it takes you to a page of news stories with events happening in the rest of the world, ie not in the US.
Click Africa and you'll get news stories of stuff happening in Africa. But thats NOT the page African people see when they visit the CNN website.
To comment on your point that the rest of the world is oblivious to the shootings, all i can say is how totally wrong you are on that point. Its been all over the news for days in my country, ever since it happened, and funnily, when i view the CNN website from my country its the first story i see. Its not hidden away at all.
You seriously need to do more research before making assumptions like you do.
When you click "World" , it doesnt take you to a page of news that the rest of the world see's, it takes you to a page of news stories with events happening in the rest of the world, ie not in the US.
Click Africa and you'll get news stories of stuff happening in Africa. But thats NOT the page African people see when they visit the CNN website.
To comment on your point that the rest of the world is oblivious to the shootings, all i can say is how totally wrong you are on that point. Its been all over the news for days in my country, ever since it happened, and funnily, when i view the CNN website from my country its the first story i see. Its not hidden away at all.
You seriously need to do more research before making assumptions like you do.
A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators believe Adam Lanza attended Sandy Hook school several years ago but appeared to have no recent connection to the place.
At least one parent said Adam Lanza's mother was a substitute teacher there. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the law enforcement official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.
At least one parent said Adam Lanza's mother was a substitute teacher there. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the law enforcement official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.
An anonymous source said that a possible substitute teacher was not on a staff list?!? OMG, we got our smoking gun! Maybe a plumber who worked on the school last month wasn't on a staff list either. If so, this means the plumber was a communist agent.
Listen, I'm a gun owner myself. I have a Cooper .22 custom classic and your basic Winchester model 12. I don't like most of what the anti-gun folks say, but some of the crap coming from the NRA and friends is just as absurd. The frequency and scale of these shootings is getting out of hand and something has to be done, but neither side seems open to even debating the facts. The prevailing strategy seems to be, "LALALALAALA YOUR FACTS ARE WRONG, MINE ARE RIGHT LALALALALA!"
Well, it does, probably even in a bigger scale, it is the US media that overblown incident like this, but to tell you the truth, I'd rather have these type of hyperactive medias where everything goes rather than having media controlled by the the state where bad news are prohibited just to make the country looks good.
And lets not forget, the US is the third most populous country in the world, more things tend to happen with more people. You can't really compare the US with countries such as Switzerland or Australia, they probably have more wild animals than they do people.
"No one has heard of her," Lillian Bittman, a former school board official, told the Journal. "Teachers don’t know her." "Relatives" told ABC News she may have volunteered there, but she wasn't a teacher.
A parent told the Associated Press Lanza was a substitute, but they couldn't verify that with any records at the school. The Stanford Advocate reported the same thing. So, which is it?
The Newtown area superintendant said Lanza was not a teacher at the school and was not in their database at all on the Today show Saturday morning. It would appear she has no major connection to the school at all.
A parent told the Associated Press Lanza was a substitute, but they couldn't verify that with any records at the school. The Stanford Advocate reported the same thing. So, which is it?
The Newtown area superintendant said Lanza was not a teacher at the school and was not in their database at all on the Today show Saturday morning. It would appear she has no major connection to the school at all.
The emergence of all these shills immediately after I post is starting to look rather suspicious.
The question must be asked: Who was really behind the Newtown tragedy? Was it those insidious forces who wish to render American citizens defenseless?
inb4 government shills
The question must be asked: Who was really behind the Newtown tragedy? Was it those insidious forces who wish to render American citizens defenseless?
inb4 government shills
I sometimes wonder if you are really just a TROLL account. You are the Pewep of conspiracy theory bullshit. I mean fuck man,
The more fucked up thing is I picture you doing some shit like these mass shootings. Maybe not kids, that is beyond WTF. Just in general I can see you snapping and killing a bunch of people.
It's been said before but I'll say it again, in almost every case of these types of shootings, the shooters were on some kind of anti-depressant.
These drugs are notorious for exacerbating a non-suicidal non-violent depressive case into a suicidal and even violent depressive case. People feel a little blue and get on these prescriptions, then shortly after fall off a cliff deeper in their depression than they would have ever been otherwise. It is ignorant to say that these drugs have zero influence on these violent events.
As for the media and politicians using this to push their anti-gun agendas, it is already obvious these people never had a shred of integrity so why do you listen to them now? When was the last time you heard about a school shooting thwarted or stopped before it happened because someone on the scene had a gun and was able to prevent further violence? When was the last time you heard about that hero getting arrested for saving those lives? You don't hear a peep about those stories because it isn't in the interest of politicians or their sock puppets to tell you about it.
So screw it.. let's make the entire U.S.A a "gun free zone".. the threat of armed civilians is only a deterrent if you're Venustiano Carranza anyway.
These drugs are notorious for exacerbating a non-suicidal non-violent depressive case into a suicidal and even violent depressive case. People feel a little blue and get on these prescriptions, then shortly after fall off a cliff deeper in their depression than they would have ever been otherwise. It is ignorant to say that these drugs have zero influence on these violent events.
As for the media and politicians using this to push their anti-gun agendas, it is already obvious these people never had a shred of integrity so why do you listen to them now? When was the last time you heard about a school shooting thwarted or stopped before it happened because someone on the scene had a gun and was able to prevent further violence? When was the last time you heard about that hero getting arrested for saving those lives? You don't hear a peep about those stories because it isn't in the interest of politicians or their sock puppets to tell you about it.
So screw it.. let's make the entire U.S.A a "gun free zone".. the threat of armed civilians is only a deterrent if you're Venustiano Carranza anyway.