Russia Invades Georgia
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Yea..your right no relevance whatsoever. So it's ok that The Former Soviet Union ignores the U.N and Ignores the fact that Georgia has offered a cease fire. Then attacks targets that have nothing to do with SO.
We have more reasons to attack Mexico than Russia has attacking Georgia.
Exactly the reson why I felt a Hypocrisy alarm going of when I saw Bush talk about the situation...
the US has ignored the rest of the world when invading irak.
who gives a shit about that georgia has offered chease fire? they started the shit,so they have to pay the bills.
you fucking uneducated yanks are going on my nervs,look the shit you have done to the world and better stfu.
posted by tweak50:
As far as I'm concerned you're the smartest guy in the room for even being aware of Texas vs. White; however, that particular SC course would be trivial to overcome and almost certainly not brought into play (old SC decisions have been routinely ignored or "reinterpreted" for over a century, no big deal there.) What I am asking is on a more fundamental and logical level -- why can't California just separate and leave? People who fixate on the idea that they can't, don't seem to follow that line of thinking to its logical conclusion, which is that the only two types of states ate static and expanding. History shows us that the only successful static states have been for the most part very small and isolationist (Iceland, Switzerland, Monaco, Lesotho etc. ) and the only ones that expanded and expanded eventually collapsed (Rome, Byzantium, Mongolia, the various European empires, the "colonial" efforts which followed them, the USSR, etc.)
Additionally, if you look at a map of the world from 1900 and compare it to one from 2000, there are rather a lot more countries on the newer map than the older. Not a whole lot more land though. So obviously the world's states have a tendency to not only expand, but to also contract -- so why can't California secede? Why is it a big deal?
Frank
As far as I'm concerned you're the smartest guy in the room for even being aware of Texas vs. White; however, that particular SC course would be trivial to overcome and almost certainly not brought into play (old SC decisions have been routinely ignored or "reinterpreted" for over a century, no big deal there.) What I am asking is on a more fundamental and logical level -- why can't California just separate and leave? People who fixate on the idea that they can't, don't seem to follow that line of thinking to its logical conclusion, which is that the only two types of states ate static and expanding. History shows us that the only successful static states have been for the most part very small and isolationist (Iceland, Switzerland, Monaco, Lesotho etc. ) and the only ones that expanded and expanded eventually collapsed (Rome, Byzantium, Mongolia, the various European empires, the "colonial" efforts which followed them, the USSR, etc.)
Additionally, if you look at a map of the world from 1900 and compare it to one from 2000, there are rather a lot more countries on the newer map than the older. Not a whole lot more land though. So obviously the world's states have a tendency to not only expand, but to also contract -- so why can't California secede? Why is it a big deal?
Frank
I get the whole attitude now. I suspected such. So because some of you hate the US and Georgia is a staunch allie with the US, then they deserve to be overtaken by one of the most corrupt and dangerous governments on the face of the planet.
Makes sence.
I'll be glad when this America hating fad that the kids have going on is over. It really is fucking stupid.
Makes sence.
I'll be glad when this America hating fad that the kids have going on is over. It really is fucking stupid.
Georgia attacks a little independent protectorate filled with ethnic Russians, kills 2000 people, and then Russia comes in and whups their ass, because Georgia thought it could get away with this under the flag of NATO.
Georgia was committing genocide, and attacked innocent civilians. How you can excuse that is beyond me. We invaded Afghanistan and Iraq over less than 3,000 deaths, which by the most conservative counts, have led to a quarter million casualties.
Well, it would be a huge deal if the us started to contract. But I never said I agreed with them not being able to so. If California decided it would be best for them to declare sovereignty, then they should have the right to do so. I was simply pointing out one SC case which could prevent it.
True. Georgia started it and there's no excuse for that. However, Russia is taking advantage of the situation. Russia is still bombing targets outside ossetia even though Georgia have accepted defeat and withdrawn their troops. The reason for this is most likely to scare ex-USSR states that want to join NATO. Bitches.
"Of course, Saddam Hussein had to be hung for his destruction of several Shiite villages. But as for the current Georgian leadership -- who in one hour razed 10 Ossetian villages to the ground, who crushed children and the elderly with tanks, who burned alive peaceful citizens in barns -- these 'activists' should of course be protected," he said, reverting to an earthy sarcastic tone that was a trademark of his presidency.
"If my memory serves me right, it was Ronald Reagan who said in relation to one of Latin America dictators a while ago: 'Somoza, of course, is a son of a bitch. But he's our son of a bitch. And we will be helping him, we'll protect him,'" Putin said.
"If my memory serves me right, it was Ronald Reagan who said in relation to one of Latin America dictators a while ago: 'Somoza, of course, is a son of a bitch. But he's our son of a bitch. And we will be helping him, we'll protect him,'" Putin said.
You are 100% correct. DO NOT join NATO bitches. Russia could give a fuck less about SO. Anyone that thinks that Russia gives a fuck about human rights read up on Chechnya.
..or go to nearest Indian Reservation to see human rights in action. Picture worth a thousand words.
They have indian reservations in Georgia. Are those Apache or Cherokee?
Your hatred for the US is hiding your intelligence. This argument has nothing to do with the US. Russia isn't invading the US...they are illegally invading Georgia.
If the US is so bad please move to Europe and enjoy nanny state and sharia law.
That argument had a lot to do with human rights , you referred to in your post claiming that Russia does not know what it is.
All I'm saying ,it would sound fair from someone from Switzerland for example.
Comments about "human rights" and "illegally invading other country" coming from American make people in the rest of the world laugh.
All Russia did in this case was protecting civilians, remind you again 90% of population of Ossetia are Russian citizens.
Illegaly?
Russia was chosen by UN to overlook situation in Ossetia and had piecekeepers there.
What they were suppose to do? Ask Georgians politely to leave?
Maybe provide them free first class from Ossetia to Tbilisi?
The funniest thing is , Russia made beautifull exit:
Civilians protected, Georgians punished and Russia keeps face because they demanded what to write in agreement that Georgia and big 8 will sign.
And Bush... He demanded Russia to leave immediately in his speech.
He put himself into a corner. He is lucky it ended this way.
Otherwise, he would have to loose his face or drag Americans into war with Russia . And what's sad - people like you , probably because of luck of education or intelligence, will blindly support it.
So US "legally" invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, Serbia and who gave them that right exactly?
HarveyJ
He is - THE CACTUS!
Woah, that's a real slippery slope right there...
I guess the UK doesn't need permission to re-annex the USA, by force if necessary, then... After all, it DID belong the Empire at one point.
Not going to happen.
Not saying it should happen.
Just pointing the ad abdsurdum conclusion of such an argument.
Russia may have had UN permission to have peacekeepers in OS but I don't think the UN gave them the OK to bomb Georgia proper? LOL..Puttin isn't out to protect anyone. He could give a fuck less about the poor bastards in OS. He is out to send a message and prove a point.
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