Same here. Ordered a couple of blasts on different domains and the keywords are hanging between #40-80.
I always thought you do a 301 after the rankings settled in.
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Same here. Ordered a couple of blasts on different domains and the keywords are hanging between #40-80.
I always thought you do a 301 after the rankings settled in.
You can 301 redirect whenever you want. Divert to a property with legit on-site SEO, numerous pages of content, and perhaps even some links arbitrary of RH (like some sexy site-wides and high PR blog posts) and you have yourself the recipe for a SERP buster. I'm still amidst playing with this service, however, I have placed multiple orders and gauged the results to some extent using one page properties on fresh as well as aged domains. Everything looks good. A lot of these links are unique in the sense that you haven't seen them before, at least not for sale on forums such as this one.
As most of you are likely to opt for passing this shady juice through a 301, I might as well offer a bit of clarity on the matter. Let me tell you about the first website I had de-indexed ("sandboxed") by big G for shady links. Property skyrocketed in the SERPs and held it down for roughly one week before it was banned. I 301d that shit to a new property and watched the juice pass to the new property WITHOUT THE PENALTY. Years later, this website is still indexed, pulling organic search traffic, and holding down a mid level PR.
When should you 301? Whenever the fuck you want, unless you're scared. If you're worried your 1 page site is going to hit the sandbox, you can always wait it out and then 301 it after it's hit, however, if it never takes a hit, you're wasting time and we all know time is money. If you're a real bad ass, you'll throw this shit straight at your money sites without that pussy 301 redirect shit.
This is rank and bank so whatever the fuck happens, you deal with it. Re-build, re-build, re-build.
Is this my first post?
As most of you are likely to opt for passing this shady juice through a 301, I might as well offer a bit of clarity on the matter. Let me tell you about the first website I had de-indexed ("sandboxed") by big G for shady links. Property skyrocketed in the SERPs and held it down for roughly one week before it was banned. I 301d that shit to a new property and watched the juice pass to the new property WITHOUT THE PENALTY. Years later, this website is still indexed, pulling organic search traffic, and holding down a mid level PR.
When should you 301? Whenever the fuck you want, unless you're scared. If you're worried your 1 page site is going to hit the sandbox, you can always wait it out and then 301 it after it's hit, however, if it never takes a hit, you're wasting time and we all know time is money. If you're a real bad ass, you'll throw this shit straight at your money sites without that pussy 301 redirect shit.
This is rank and bank so whatever the fuck happens, you deal with it. Re-build, re-build, re-build.
Is this my first post?
In regards to the passing penalty thing. I was always of the same mindset as you, that there's no way in hell Google would let that happen. It's just too dangerous of a neg seo weapon. However, when Penguin came along and everyone was trying to 301 their old sites to their newly created sites, and within days the new site was infected with some or all of the Penguin based penalty, it got me thinking that maybe Google does let some algo based stuff pass through a 301. I don't know enough about it to say for sure, but it's something to consider, and even test further I guess.
Well.. services ordered last week, on a 9000 exact match phrase.. using same method I posted on other page of this thread. Aged domain, similar previous niche content, stuck up one page wp site with unique article..
It's ranking result #7 in goog.com now for that phrase.. I've not checked any other related keywords, as no analytics installed (for obvious reasons!..). But I will add some in my rank checker account.. A lot faster than last time.. good stuff.
It's ranking result #7 in goog.com now for that phrase.. I've not checked any other related keywords, as no analytics installed (for obvious reasons!..). But I will add some in my rank checker account.. A lot faster than last time.. good stuff.
So quick update. as we're on 301 topic too.
The first site i used rankhack on hit top 3 after about 2 weeks, stayed there dancing for approx 1 week, made the investment back in a few hours of ranking and continued to bank!.. I was about to 301 to another site and this morning it seems i have either massive link deval or I'm about to get tanked! Huge fluctuations, same search i get 1st page, then 4th page then nowhere then back to page 2.. any advice?
The first site i used rankhack on hit top 3 after about 2 weeks, stayed there dancing for approx 1 week, made the investment back in a few hours of ranking and continued to bank!.. I was about to 301 to another site and this morning it seems i have either massive link deval or I'm about to get tanked! Huge fluctuations, same search i get 1st page, then 4th page then nowhere then back to page 2.. any advice?
Advice: Ride the fucking wave. You just dropped a bomb and your site is going to jump around like House of Pain fucked Kris Kross. Honestly though, I would consider throwing some more links at it and getting some fucking variety with a little bit of trust to add to your authority. You know what I mean? Like some old school web 2.0s and maybe something fresh off the press.
It's a churn site so not much of a problem.
I'm working on variety and 2.0s social as we speak to prop it up a bit more and possibly news PR.
My main concern was it had really stabilized and seemed to settle then disappeared completely from g.co.uk this am but still shows on g.com which fluctuates which leads me to believe it's going in the box on both..
I know the dance but never been sandboxed so wondered if this was typical signals or just a dance.
I'm working on variety and 2.0s social as we speak to prop it up a bit more and possibly news PR.
My main concern was it had really stabilized and seemed to settle then disappeared completely from g.co.uk this am but still shows on g.com which fluctuates which leads me to believe it's going in the box on both..
I know the dance but never been sandboxed so wondered if this was typical signals or just a dance.
I apologize for not answering every question posted in this thread.
I will finally tell my favorite 301 story...
So I have a website that ranks #1-3 for a decent insurance term and makes a few hundred bucks a day. Some of you have seen it. Anyway, I ranked it with shady links. After 2 weeks it gets slapped -50. So I 301d it and the new domain ranks in its place within 24 hours. 2 weeks later that domain gets slapped -50.
So what do I do?
Every 2 weeks I spend $10 on a new domain and then spend 14 days making a few thousand bucks.
The first slap was like 8 months ago. Today I'm on domain #15. lol.
Anyway, I left for a 2-week vacation yesterday and will check email every 2-3 days as normal, but I will be mentally vacant.
When I get back I'll review the data and run some tests to see exactly how this works post-update. It still works great (I'm back on top for that certain payday term), but I'm not going to sit here and pretend there's not a ton of variables in play, or that enough time has elapsed for me to understand them (specifically: existing domain vs. fresh domain vs. parasites, etc).
I will finally tell my favorite 301 story...
So I have a website that ranks #1-3 for a decent insurance term and makes a few hundred bucks a day. Some of you have seen it. Anyway, I ranked it with shady links. After 2 weeks it gets slapped -50. So I 301d it and the new domain ranks in its place within 24 hours. 2 weeks later that domain gets slapped -50.
So what do I do?
Every 2 weeks I spend $10 on a new domain and then spend 14 days making a few thousand bucks.
The first slap was like 8 months ago. Today I'm on domain #15. lol.
Anyway, I left for a 2-week vacation yesterday and will check email every 2-3 days as normal, but I will be mentally vacant.
When I get back I'll review the data and run some tests to see exactly how this works post-update. It still works great (I'm back on top for that certain payday term), but I'm not going to sit here and pretend there's not a ton of variables in play, or that enough time has elapsed for me to understand them (specifically: existing domain vs. fresh domain vs. parasites, etc).
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Cheers!
Great service for the price like McD's i'm luvin it!
Cheers!
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