Nothing interesting to say except I've been responding to shit I normally don't even read for number 300...
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Ah... BTW, that quote reminds me of Flatland, A Romance of Dimensions.
Quantum Physics Got Me Funked Up
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Ah... BTW, that quote reminds me of Flatland, A Romance of Dimensions.
I have a friend who's a professor in something physics related and used to love talking about advanced string theory along with all the quantum crap, and he says exactly that.
He said it's great fun, but most of it's "facts" are total bollocks; like creationism for those who think they understand science.
this is my thread people, degree in physics coming through.
That movie "What the #$@! Do we know?" is a lot of shit, but the clip in the OP is 100% true and verifiable info. Nothing wrong with it. The concept comes from the copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, which is statistical rather than deterministic.
This isn't it at all. It's that when unobserved, the particles are in a superposition of every single one of those possibilities at the same time, and when a macroscopic observer watches in, it must be in one state, therefore the wavefunction breaks down.
That movie "What the #$@! Do we know?" is a lot of shit, but the clip in the OP is 100% true and verifiable info. Nothing wrong with it. The concept comes from the copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, which is statistical rather than deterministic.
This isn't it at all. It's that when unobserved, the particles are in a superposition of every single one of those possibilities at the same time, and when a macroscopic observer watches in, it must be in one state, therefore the wavefunction breaks down.
Schrodinger made the cat experiment up as a sarcastic way of saying he thought the idea of a superposition was bullshit. He was a believer of deterministic mechanics (look up the Bohm interpretation, or pilot wave theory by de Broglie). He's rolling in his grave probably now that everyone uses the cat as *the* example for the copenhagen interpretation.
I was joking papajohn56. 
You of all people should have noticed that after the words, "Can all be explained very simply..." I was hoping for a bite, because most of what i've tried to read and understand may as well be written in Cantonese.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to papajohn56 again.
You of all people should have noticed that after the words, "Can all be explained very simply..." I was hoping for a bite, because most of what i've tried to read and understand may as well be written in Cantonese.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to papajohn56 again.
Actually it's that "stupid emotional fat chick" who made the whole movie with the help of her students (also featured in the movie). Therefore the conclusions drawn in the movie are questionable to say at least.
It's something like the observing machinery expects a certain result and the particle "acts" on that. It's something like you can't actually do any (nondestructive) observation without affecting the results. I think they are trying to use the same concept for quantum-based stream encryption/security (which is said to be physically impossible to intercept).
Quantum physics' not about "fucking magnets". It's a science concentrating on a MUCH lower level of particle action.
That doesn't make any logical sense that merely observing would change its nature, so I'm assuming they're either wrong or are phrasing it incorrectly.
no, it's true. it's a verified part of quantum mechanics, and is mathematically verifiable. Quantum physics itself isn't logical. We're used to deterministic systems - i.e. I roll ball at this speed, we know it will end up at this specific point. Quantum is all based on statistics
it doesn't know, it's the process of a macroscopic level object attempting to interact with a quantum state, it causes the wavefunction to break down
this statement astutely summarizes the common theme underlying your entire post history here.
it's like you wrote your whole autobiography in just one sentence.
I like how people who think they're scientists and intellectuals think everything must make logical sense to them or it's false. Like the intellectuals throughout history didn't think the same fucking thing about what they observed in the world and then were massively proven wrong.
It's like they all think we've finished science and we won't ever have any other breakthroughs that change the way we look at things.
It's like they all think we've finished science and we won't ever have any other breakthroughs that change the way we look at things.
Speaking out of my ass but a couple of thoughts are running through my head.
I agree that your eyes can't emit waves but wouldn't light waves, sound waves and any other wave interfere or contaminate the experiment since we are talking quantum.
Speaking of contamination, wouldn't you need a complete sterile, static free environment plus a complete vacuum to accurately measure quantum experiments.
In the test mentioned were all alloys used to fling the particles demagnetized? If the slit plates where alloy where they demagnetized?
Plus we have not hit on the effects gravity may have.
I agree that your eyes can't emit waves but wouldn't light waves, sound waves and any other wave interfere or contaminate the experiment since we are talking quantum.
Speaking of contamination, wouldn't you need a complete sterile, static free environment plus a complete vacuum to accurately measure quantum experiments.
In the test mentioned were all alloys used to fling the particles demagnetized? If the slit plates where alloy where they demagnetized?
Plus we have not hit on the effects gravity may have.
oop hang on I think i found the solution to the problem....yep
Watch the video on super slow-mo very closely as the particle escapes the electron gun around 3:55.
Seems a Wagenparticle snuck in there.
Science already knows wagenparticles split themselves then recombines for optimal article production. How they get themselves into particle accelerators and electron guns no one knows, but i'm sure there's money to be made in it.
Watch the video on super slow-mo very closely as the particle escapes the electron gun around 3:55.
Seems a Wagenparticle snuck in there.
Science already knows wagenparticles split themselves then recombines for optimal article production. How they get themselves into particle accelerators and electron guns no one knows, but i'm sure there's money to be made in it.