You can't compare viruses here, they're not life as we define it like bacteria, animals, etc.
Over millions of years if a lake starts drying up and a fish has to develop fins that allow it to leave the lake it's just the beginning of the process.
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You can't compare viruses here, they're not life as we define it like bacteria, animals, etc.
Over millions of years if a lake starts drying up and a fish has to develop fins that allow it to leave the lake it's just the beginning of the process.
Not only is there "fundamental change in the DNA code" it happens at a constant rate. Which is one way we can predict how long ago species had a common ancestor, and that evidence collaborates with the fossil record.
And from this we can do interesting things, like we can look at lice species and figure out when human beings lost most of their body hair.
I'm really not trying to be a dick, but you guys have no fucking idea what you are talking about. I mean its pathetic, because you act like you do.
Watch this
NOVA | Where Did We Come From?
Your doing it wrong. Just CTRL+F and look for people who quote you. Nothing else is worth reading anymore.
No, because it's on a different branch of the evolutionary tree. Give it a few million years and it might evolve into something altogether different, but it will never be a mammal.
That's like saying you don't agree with the concept of the I-95 because it doesn't stop at Los Angeles.
@Rusky... no fundamental change in the DNA? WTF are you talking about? There are fundamental changes every time reproduction happens.
As for a moth staying a moth. That's a taxonomic question. It's only still a moth because we call it a moth. Anyhow if it had scales, it wouldn't be called a moth. It probably wouldn't even be in the same Phylum, let alone species.
Sheesh. Whenever I get into discussions with people about anything biological, I am gob-smacked by the general level of complete ignorance about it. Do they not teach science in schools any more?
Its still just varieties of the same species.
There is no evidence of new species or even organs.
Saying it will happen after millions of years, is an assumption. Even if I assume all that. How would you explain the origin of DNA information that build the original living cell.
There is no evidence of new species or even organs.
Saying it will happen after millions of years, is an assumption. Even if I assume all that. How would you explain the origin of DNA information that build the original living cell.
Evolution is based off of falsifiable evidence. The thousands of religions of the world are not. Once I allowed myself to grasp this, I realized how stupid it was of me to be a christian.
Go watch the fucking video I posted so you can see people recreating early RNA from conditions that existed in the early earth. Stop saying dumb shit like there is no evidence of new species. Where the hell did you get that idea? Go to wikipedia, look up speciation, and read all about it.
Here: Speciation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Seriously just please educate yourself, you sound like a retard proclaiming that there is no proof that two plus two equals four or that the earth is round.
Did I word something wrong I guess?
Theory of evolution is built on verifiable and falsifiable evidence. Religions are nothing but hearsay.
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Whether the Bible thumpers are true or not doesn't matter. Science is science, and a perceived attack on science is no justification for making ignorant claims to defend it.
Fact is, there is direct evidence of some instances of evolution, then there is only circumstantial evidence of other kinds of evolution. Ie hypotheses and fossils. You cannot compare the quality of this evidence to actual, verifiable, repeatable, documented instances of evolution as it happened. The quality of these two kinds of evidence is vastly, vastly different.
Any attempt to lump them together reveals nothing but an alarming lack of understanding of the nature of evidence and logic and a blind, dogmatic worship of science textbooks.
This is why we need to teach philosophy in high school.
Maybe you should do more research and stop watching nova videos.
That experiment addresses one minor problem. The building of the blocks. But it doesn't explain the much larger issue at hand. The functional arrangement of these blocks.
Plus theres holes in the experiment procedure, I dont have time to get into. But if pushed I will.
Don't talk to me about what science is, you're fucking up shit most people learn in elementary school and completely talking out of your ass. Hypotheses are not circumstantial evidence, they are explanations, which combined with evidence becomes a theory. If you can't understand that then get the fuck out of this thread.
You can believe whatever crazy shit you want to believe, but stop making up crap. There are not different kinds of evolution. There is only the amount of time that has passed.
I was talking about proof of fundamental change. I did acknowledge the fact we have thousands of dog breeds. Can you read Mr Genius.
I guess you dont have anything for this. I figured a smart guy like you wouldn't.
Why dont you go watch some colorful nova videos.
ROFL, you cannot be this stupid.
There has never been any assumption.
Far from it.
(osht I took the bait)
Rusky - ok, I'll bite and argue this one.
To start with - what, precisely, is a species, by your definition?
(Why do I get the feeling I'm being trolled by my own thread here?)
Alright, angry man. Anyone who has looked at it objectively is wrong. We get it.
Fossils = ultimate proof. Fuck repeatable testing and experimenting. That counts for shit. Fossils and making up explanations are where it's at.
Seriously. Some of you science fundies are suffering from logic deficiencies.
