Peaceful Muslim Protests in Greece

Yes keep telling yourself that look at Luton for all the proof you need.
The Horrific Muslim Infiltration Of Britain - Luton 2012 - YouTube

Wait.... how is it the fault of Muslims that your political leaders let in un-educated, ignorant radicals?

There are millions of professionals around the world that want to migrate to the EU (including well educated non-extremists from virtually all religions). Your leaders choose to let ignorant Muslim bigots in (and protect them) and you blame the ignorant bigots?
 




m0rtals video makes it quite clear. You think you're immune to this in the US as well? Then you're plain fucking naive.

This is a global issue and it is driven by population and fertility rate. The fact is that muslims don't need to go to war with your country if they just immigrate to it and take it from within, which is what they plan to do.

You lot are just too blinded by the religion argument to see whats actually happening.
 
Exactly. I actually would support them raging/fighting against the U.S. for us stealing their resources and killing their people - and I'm sure they do that a tiny bit.
lol.

But you're not going to understand this because you're a britfag moron (like your tag says) and you're being argumentative. But the difference is that these cunts want to take away others freedom of speech. They are raging because of fucking cartoons and a retarded film that some unknown idiot made. They want to change the world to stop the free exchange of ideas and criticisms. Fuck that and fuck you.
And some people don't believe propaganda still works in this day and age :1orglaugh:

It's lucky that we have noble people like the government protecting people in other countries' freedom of speech by bombing the shit out of them.

I think freedom requires a certain level of non-violence.. Invading someone's country in the name of "freedom" is like pointing a gun to someone's head and telling them "you will like what I like"

I'm unable to comment on other countries, because the media seems to be incredibly biased in their reporting of that film - pretty much only showing Libya. In addition, only paying attention to the UK/US media is only paying attention to the aggressor. I'm not sure how most court cases would go down if the judge only let the Prosecution speak.

That said, I'll speak the limited knowledge I know about Libya. They killed the person from the US embassy. Castle Law at play. You have a country with the best GDP in Africa, excellent social housing, water, electricity, schooling programs, to rival most Western nations. A very Liberal government, with the most recent report from the UN being pretty gleaming. The leader lives in a tent, because he promised years ago that until every Citizen of Libya lived in a house, he wouldn't. Several large countries decide they don't like you, bomb the shit out of you, destroy your country, and decide to elect a Sharia law government. The majority of the population don't necessarily agree with all this, but against the might of the US, UK and French military and equipment combined, it's pretty much a choice of agree or die. And then one of the invaders gets killed. Is that justified?

I'm not saying I think that person should've died, because I don't know that they knew the full background on the country, nor that they necessarily had the choice to go out there.

All reasoning and self-improvement stops when people can't express themselves and critique each-others ideas. I'd carpet-nuke the entire middle east if it was needed to preserve freedom of speech/expression. I'd press the button myself with no regret - all to save the freedom of speech if it was needed. Because every god damn thing is lost w/out it.. modernity, science, etc is completely lost w/out it. You're not allowed to question god, authority, life, etc. Freedom itself is completely impossible w/out first having the freedom of speech/expression.
Thank God so many people in the government love freedom as much as you!

So as long as they have this Sharia law and intolerance towards others speech, ideas, religions, philosophies, etc, I don't feel any sympathy for them at all.
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Joe, Watch m0rtal's film and then the one about Luton.

You can't bomb this. It's about birthrates.

Now tell me, are you happy to see the demographics going in the direction they currently are?

Are you happy for there to be no Britons left in 100 years from now, only one more of the many Islamic states occupying the ex-british Parliament?

Are you happy that the majority of women in that country will be forced to wear burqas like they do in Saudi Arabia today?

Are you happy that science and critical thinking will be absolutely outlawed from those schools and replaced with exactly one religion class?

Or are you just going to keep your head firmly planted in the ground and deny the math and history here?
 
Are you happy for there to be no Britons left in 100 years from now

Exactly. He is witnessing centuries and centuries of British civilization going extinct and he does not care. He is despicable. I bet his fellow Britons would be ashamed to live in the same country as him.
 
-joe- , you thinking my view is ironic just shows your own limitations in thought. Think about it this way.. you want to make a cultural "program" where a civilization gains the most freedom and multiculturalism as possible.

Program #1 (Goal: Preserve freedom and multiculturalism)
Rule: Accept all cultures equally.

Program #2 (Goal: Preserve freedom and multiculturalism)
Rule: Accept all cultures equally except those that violently oppose multiculturalism and freedom itself.

Which program will be most successful? For me it's obvious Program #2 will be most successful. If you don't see it then you're part of the problem. Program #2 has a self-defensive aspect to it.

Of course the U.S. has committed and commits sins. It's far from perfect and is criminal IMO. But I know for a fact we have some serious freedom of speech at least. Just tune into Alex Jones to see how far you can go. At least half the shit he talks about is definitely not true and is like yelling 'fire' in a theater. I'm surprised many politicians haven't sued him for slander. But nobody's stopped him. At least we have the ability to criticize our country and change public opinion to try and open people's eyes to the fact that we're controlled by criminals. Freedom of speech can change opinions and eventually policies. But if you take that away with religious law you don't have the ability to do shit.
 
Joe, Watch m0rtal's film and then the one about Luton.

You can't bomb this. It's about birthrates.

Now tell me, are you happy to see the demographics going in the direction they currently are?
Perfectly. That said, I'd be just as happy to see them shifting in the opposite direction, I'm totally neutral.

Are you happy for there to be no Britons left in 100 years from now, only one more of the many Islamic states occupying the ex-british Parliament?
White Britons. Things change over time, demographics change, populations change. Hundreds of years ago most people in England were shorter, has being taller really made a noticeable impact? That said, I think that's unlikely.

While I would have problems with a strong Islamic government, I would have just as many problems with a strong Christian government. When a government goes past protecting its own citizens from theft and violence, and starts inflicting its own morals on the citizens of the country, that's when there's a problem.

Are you happy that the majority of women in that country will be forced to wear burqas like they do in Saudi Arabia today?
No. What?

Are you happy that science and critical thinking will be absolutely outlawed from those schools and replaced with exactly one religion class?
I like you Luke, but I think you're heading into dreamland. Straw man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
lol he is comparing Britons becoming taller to Britons becoming arabs and africans.
And there is no Christian government in UK, religion rules do not apply to actual law. As opposed to muslim countries.
 
Exactly. He is witnessing centuries and centuries of British civilization going extinct and he does not care. He is despicable. I bet his fellow Britons would be ashamed to live in the same country as him.
Love you too bro.

-joe- , you thinking my view is ironic just shows your own limitations in thought. Think about it this way.. you want to make a cultural "program" where a civilization gains the most freedom and multiculturalism as possible.

Program #1 (Goal: Preserve freedom and multiculturalism)
Rule: Accept all cultures equally.

Program #2 (Goal: Preserve freedom and multiculturalism)
Rule: Accept all cultures equally except those that violently oppose multiculturalism and freedom itself.

Which program will be most successful? For me it's obvious Program #2 will be most successful. If you don't see it then you're part of the problem. Program #2 has a self-defensive aspect to it.

What?!

Hello Strawman. Obviously I'm not saying "We need to let Abu Hamza, Saddam Hussein, and while we're at it, Mugabe and Kim Jong Un in". Your argument is akin to saying "Chairman Mao & Stalin weren't too nice, I'm never going to let someone from China or a Russian into my country."

Of course the U.S. has committed and commits sins. It's far from perfect and is criminal IMO. But I know for a fact we have some serious freedom of speech at least. Just tune into Alex Jones to see how far you can go. At least half the shit he talks about is definitely not true and is like yelling 'fire' in a theater. I'm surprised many politicians haven't sued him for slander. But nobody's stopped him. At least we have the ability to criticize our country and change public opinion to try and open people's eyes to the fact that we're controlled by criminals. Freedom of speech can change opinions and eventually policies. But if you take that away with religious law you don't have the ability to do shit.
No better way to silence the masses by associating any dissent with nutcases.

As for freedom of speech, El Salvador and several other "dubious" countries are rated higher than the US on the press freedom index. (Incidentally, the US is rated #47, #57 for extra-terratorial)
 
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No better way to silence the masses by associating any dissent with nutcases.

As for freedom of speech, El Salvador and several other "dubious" countries are rated higher than the US on the press freedom index. (Incidentally, the US is rated #47, #57 for extra-terratorial)

Calling someone a nutcase is part of freedom of speech, dumbass. If people don't have the mental fortitude to see past government propaganda or social stigmas then they deserve the lame news they ask for. But there are PLENTY of other news sources and opinions out there now. If the masses prefer watching Honey Boo Boo instead of learning about the world then it's a problem with the masses. Nobody is restricting our freedom of speech, the masses restrict themselves by limiting their information exposure.

I just watched Rt.com news.. one of the best places IMO to get it. They were talking about how shitty AIPAC was. The gov isnt restricting my access to Rt.com.. and I can even go and make a blog right now about how criminal the whole government is, etc. Shit i can watch Al Jazeera if I want to.
 
Calling someone a nutcase is part of freedom of speech, dumbass.
Remind me where I said it wasn't. All I'm saying is that the existence of nutcases, and their easy availability to the public, is a very nice way of demonstrating false freedom of speech.

I just watched Rt.com news.. one of the best places IMO to get it. They were talking about how shitty AIPAC was. The gov isnt restricting my access to Rt.com.. and I can even go and make a blog right now about how criminal the whole government is, etc. Shit i can watch Al Jazeera if I want to.
Yep, no way a government owned TV station could ever be biased. :1orglaugh: RT is very well known for their heavy pro-Russia bias. Sure, in combination with other news sources it can help you get a bit closer to the truth, but on its own... I wouldn't trust any news source on its own. As I said, it's like the judge only letting the prosecution (or defendant) speak in a court case.

Funny you should mention Al Jazeera. Have you noticed that although the Western news channels use their footage a hell of a lot (learn what their logo looks like, and look for it) they only mention them by name when it's about terrorists sending footage to them?

While they definitely have their problems (another government owned news station) and are still fairly biased (although, imo, less so than BBC/CNN) they do genuinely practice investigative journalism. For example, while the BBC journalists were talking from their hotel rooms while wearing flak jackets (genuinely saw this) Al Jazeera were actually in the midst of it all, and almost all the footage the Western news channels used was Al Jazeera's.

As I said though, multiple news sources, not just one.
 
As I said though, multiple news sources, not just one.

Not sure why you'd think I'd only watch RT news I was sitting there talking to you about there being tons of news sources out there and I was insulting the masses that limit their exposure to various information.
 
Not sure why you'd think I'd only watch RT news I was sitting there talking to you about there being tons of news sources out there and I was insulting the masses that limit their exposure to various information.
Name some that don't constantly feed you with what the White House wants you to think. The only 2 non-internet based ones I can think of are RT and Al Jazeera.
 
Name some that don't constantly feed you with what the White House wants you to think. The only 2 non-internet based ones I can think of are RT and Al Jazeera.

Why non-internet? Stuff is extremely limited w/out it. I don't even have a cable subscription - only internet. I don't have a newspaper subscription either. The internet opened up information access for everyone.

Anyway, I'm tired and don't feel like getting into a conversation on whether having access to limited information is the same as having limited freedom of speech. I doubt they're equivalent. All I know is as long the government doesn't kill or imprison me for saying "Jesus was a pedophile" or "Obama is a homosexual communist Muslim" then I likely have freedom of speech. I can even make public blogs saying this shit - available to the whole world.
 
Can anyone refute these demographics with hard numbers? If you do I may be able to sleep tonight...

snopes.com: Muslim Demographics



The fact is that muslims don't need to go to war with your country if they just immigrate to it and take it from within, which is what they plan to do.

Not gonna happen, but if it was it could only take place many generations from now, and future generations are always different than present ones. Average Muslims in Afghanistan are different than average older Muslim Americans, and younger American ones are different than the older ones.

The younger the Muslim American, the more likely they are to interact with or marry outside their religion, go to college, watch American Idol, etc. The more they become like the average citizen, the less likely they are to breed and the more "moderate" they become.

Older generations wanted to lock up Elvis for shaking his hips on television. A few generations later and you have "conservative Christian" George Bush inviting Ozzy Osbourne to a dinner at the White House.

Future Muslim Americans will be living in a different world. Marijuana and gay marriage will likely be legal, porn will be more like virtual reality, the word "fuck" may be spoken on NBC, Playboy models might get invited to White House dinners.

The clear trend has been for younger generations to be more accepting of "sins" and such. I don't see that reversing.
 
Oh boy.

Let's take the muslim %age in central europe to start

2%-4% (Italy, Luxembourg, Norway, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain)
4%-5% (Denmark, Greece, Liechtenstein, United Kingdom)
5%-10% (Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland)

According to the German Central Institute Islam Archive (de), the total number of Muslims in Europe in 2007 was about 53 million (7.2%), excluding Turkey.

- hardly a "dominance", is it?

As for fertility rate:

A Pew Research Center study, published in January 2011, forecast an increase of Muslims in European population from 6% in 2010 to 8% in 2030.[30] PEW also found that Muslim fertility rate in Europe would drop from 2.2 in 2010 to 2.0 in 2030. On the other hand, the non-Muslim fertility rate in Europe would increase from 1.5 in 2010 to 1.6 in 2030.[23]

And yes, this is just a quick wikipedia entry, because I got other stuff to do.

Sources:
Islam in Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And the cited fertility study:
The Future of the Global Muslim Population - Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life

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Let's see. They don't want to assimilate. They don't like UK culture. They don't like UK law. Yet they want to live in the UK. Either they're dumb fucks or they're invaders. On the bright side, they're on a big island. They can't escape easily if the airports and ports are shutdown, if you know what I mean.