Offer To Buy WickedFire for $16M!!!
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Dam bro, you can be a fucking millionaire. You know what that means. This has been my dreams for years and here you have a chance to have a great life with millions in the bank. I would take the offer, but if you don't, then oh well, i respect your decision.
god dammit deli! i just read your post and looked at the clock and it's 1:30. can't go get anymore beer tonight.
Anyways with this thread, I bet a lot of idiots spent all night monitoring it... just ask yourself what could you have done productively in that time.
Anyways with this thread, I bet a lot of idiots spent all night monitoring it... just ask yourself what could you have done productively in that time.
I'm spending my time tonight getting drunk and building a long range confetti gun. I regret nothing
i'm still waiting for jon to come here with a post that says:
NOT !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just want to make it clear here..
The biggest reason I didn't sell, is because I don't need the money. Plain and simple. Had I not made my first million dollars in the adult industry many years ago, and if I were in a different position, I most likely would have sold it. But when you get to the point where cash like that is offered to you, and you already have a ton of it saved up and collecting interest, plus all of your other investments paying you every few months to a year, you start aiming a lot higher. I'm not denying that $16M is a lot of money, especially for a site with no ads on it and in it's VERY young stages. Sure I believe WF has a ton of potential over the next few years, but even if I weren't the owner, and I had that type of cash laying around to buy things like this, I wouldn't value it at $16M or even make an offer close to that much. Are they crazy? Perhaps, but they also happen to own some other properties that that overpaid for by a lot, so maybe that's just their own fault for overvaluing their investments.
Again, not saying it's not a lot, and I'm not saying that I wouldn't love to have it, but once you've passed a certain cash value point in your career, the next milestone is $50M or $100M and although hitting a cool $16M is fucking beautiful, my goal is to build this place up into something that the industry lacks, and more so into a project I finally feel a more personal attachment to. WF is more of a hobby than a cash cow for me. You can say the same thing for Shawn from Digital Point. The guy banks it pretty hard, and if someone were to offer him a sellout point, he'd probably turn that down too. Sure, a lot of people would either not believe him, not understand him, or just think he's nuts for turning it down, but the guy doesn't look at it as a cash machine, it's more of a close personal project that he will forever keep. Look at Ebaumsworld too. I remember hearing about someone offering nearly $100M for his site, and he turned it down in a heartbeat. Not because he doesn't want the cash, or he thinks he'll make so much more than he already does, but because it's his baby.
So in short, WF means a hell of a lot to me than $16M does, and I consider myself lucky enough to not care about that amount of money anymore and look at things from my gut instinct point of view. Maybe it was a dumb decision on my part, we'll only tell for sure in the future.
The biggest reason I didn't sell, is because I don't need the money. Plain and simple. Had I not made my first million dollars in the adult industry many years ago, and if I were in a different position, I most likely would have sold it. But when you get to the point where cash like that is offered to you, and you already have a ton of it saved up and collecting interest, plus all of your other investments paying you every few months to a year, you start aiming a lot higher. I'm not denying that $16M is a lot of money, especially for a site with no ads on it and in it's VERY young stages. Sure I believe WF has a ton of potential over the next few years, but even if I weren't the owner, and I had that type of cash laying around to buy things like this, I wouldn't value it at $16M or even make an offer close to that much. Are they crazy? Perhaps, but they also happen to own some other properties that that overpaid for by a lot, so maybe that's just their own fault for overvaluing their investments.
Again, not saying it's not a lot, and I'm not saying that I wouldn't love to have it, but once you've passed a certain cash value point in your career, the next milestone is $50M or $100M and although hitting a cool $16M is fucking beautiful, my goal is to build this place up into something that the industry lacks, and more so into a project I finally feel a more personal attachment to. WF is more of a hobby than a cash cow for me. You can say the same thing for Shawn from Digital Point. The guy banks it pretty hard, and if someone were to offer him a sellout point, he'd probably turn that down too. Sure, a lot of people would either not believe him, not understand him, or just think he's nuts for turning it down, but the guy doesn't look at it as a cash machine, it's more of a close personal project that he will forever keep. Look at Ebaumsworld too. I remember hearing about someone offering nearly $100M for his site, and he turned it down in a heartbeat. Not because he doesn't want the cash, or he thinks he'll make so much more than he already does, but because it's his baby.
So in short, WF means a hell of a lot to me than $16M does, and I consider myself lucky enough to not care about that amount of money anymore and look at things from my gut instinct point of view. Maybe it was a dumb decision on my part, we'll only tell for sure in the future.
You're an idiot. I hate interviews actually. Ever notice why there really aren't any of them with me in it? Doh!
Just read through all of the pages..
I think I explained my reasoning pretty well in the last two posts. Some of you may get it, others may not. I never pretend to be someone I'm not. I still answer all of my IM's and emails myself. I don't spend a lot of money at all on retarded things (sure, when I first made it big I got it out of my system by spending a lot of cash on dumb things, but it didn't last too long), I don't even like to drive so I'm not a Ferrari or any exotic car owner. I consider myself pretty down to earth, normal, and just a regular guy. I don't whore myself or my name out at all. I do everything on my own schedule, and I'm pretty happy with my life and business for the first time in years. I am proud of what I do and who I am, and most of all who I've become.
Believe me. Don't believe me. Either way, I could care less. I'm not going to sit around and argue with anyone either. I'll be in Vegas, if you want to ask me something there, go for it. I tend to only report on the really big things that effect me or my business. I like to keep things private for the most part, and if I were an attention whore, I'd be telling everyone in the world, when really, all I did was post it here.
I don't expect the usual fucktwats who don't believe anything anyone else says like Rob, or Engaged, or wickedDude.. But that's your call, and you can disagree all ya like. Especially Engaged, who used to IM me every fucking day with updates on his potential Google job. I never judged him or called him out on any of it, and if anything I remember offering a shitload of advice too. Thanks Brandon, I appreciate you always flipping me the bird you douche. WickedDude, another douche who always has something arrogant or foolish to say. You two need to get together and run a suicide hotline in Iraq, this way our soldiers won't have as many crazy fucks to deal with, because they would all off themselves to your shitty advice and opinions on situations. I won't ban you guys either, so no worries. Rob you fucktwat, saying I don't own the TM on WickedFire. How about you use some of the cash you've made over the last few months and pay a lawyer a few hundred bucks to look it up. I'm sure you'll be surprised with what they find. We also just submitted another trademark application for the WF logo, and some other WF related words.
What I love about naysayers in general is they allllllways have a fucking opinion about everything, but never the facts to back it up. And then, when predictions come true, well shit, you never hear them bringing up the fact that they disagreed or didn't believe me ever again. What a shocker eh? When I first announced everything about the WF resource area, everyone jumped on me like I was defrauding them and asking to fuck their sisters. Sure, people kept poking fun at it and still do. But when it comes down to it, and you actually SEE what we are spending so much time and effort on, I guarantee you guys will be some of the first that want access to it. Which is why I'm banning you 3 for life from it. While I'm in charge here, none of you will ever get access to it. Ever. It's not really a punishment for speaking your mind, so don't try and play that card. It's for ALWAYS speaking before you think. Especially Engaged, you have a lot to learn Mr I'm a huge hedgefund manager dipshit but I am trying to suck Google's cock to land a $60k a year job that I have to move to California to do too. You are definitely two sided. You sit there in IM's typing away with no response from me for hours just entertaining yourself, and act all nice, and then come here and start being a royal douchebag. What exactly do you bring to the table anyway?
Here's the best part of it all. If you guys don't value this place, and you can honestly say reading and learning shit on here for free for the last few months hasn't helped you or your business, then why are you still here? It reminds me of those empty threats that every liberal said before Bush was re-elected. They all swore up and down they would leave to Canada if he won. Well, guess what, he won, and none of them left, and the world didn't end, and all of their dopey predictions never came true. Thankfully most of their bitching and whining calmed down as they accepted defeat, but they'll always hate him or whatever he stands for, because it's all they know how to bitch about and complain. That's what I think most of these cocksuckers who never believe me, but hang onto every fucking thread here do. They are here for the free and easy ride, and either shit just isn't going right in their life, or they could just be bipolar. Who knows. The end result is that people who don't believe me (I've never lied once either..), or what I say, or what I post, will probably never believe me, and I accept that.
But what I'd like to know is what the fuck have you 3 guys done for the community in general aside for bitching and moaning nonstop? Did you make a forum that actually does some good? No. Do you have a blog where you actually give out advice that other people don't touch? No. Do you post your earnings and try and answer as many real questions about it? No. Do you not accept any money for consulting to people you've never met? No. Do you hold lightning rounds answering every question that comes your way as quickly and detailed as possible? No. Did you volunteer yourself to stand up in front of a live crowd at ASW and instead of doing some prewritten presentation ask instead to just do live Q&A from the audience, unscripted? No. Do you guys actually do anything aside for sitting around, bitching, and trying to tell people I'm lying when I've never done so on here or on SPF? No. I can go on and on too, so again... what do you guys offer this place? So please, before you go on and try to just blurt out useless shit on things you have ZERO knowledge of or facts on, explain to me, and everyone else, WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY BRING TO THE FUCKING TABLE? Where are your earnings? Where are your volunteering time to answer questions every goddamn day? When did you ever invest lots of your own money into an idea or goal you were passionate about knowing full well that you wouldn't see any ROI for at least a year to help a community you are so fucking passionate about and involved in for so many years? That's what I'd like you assholes to answer.
Yeah, that pretty much covers it all for now.
/vent #2
I think I explained my reasoning pretty well in the last two posts. Some of you may get it, others may not. I never pretend to be someone I'm not. I still answer all of my IM's and emails myself. I don't spend a lot of money at all on retarded things (sure, when I first made it big I got it out of my system by spending a lot of cash on dumb things, but it didn't last too long), I don't even like to drive so I'm not a Ferrari or any exotic car owner. I consider myself pretty down to earth, normal, and just a regular guy. I don't whore myself or my name out at all. I do everything on my own schedule, and I'm pretty happy with my life and business for the first time in years. I am proud of what I do and who I am, and most of all who I've become.
Believe me. Don't believe me. Either way, I could care less. I'm not going to sit around and argue with anyone either. I'll be in Vegas, if you want to ask me something there, go for it. I tend to only report on the really big things that effect me or my business. I like to keep things private for the most part, and if I were an attention whore, I'd be telling everyone in the world, when really, all I did was post it here.
I don't expect the usual fucktwats who don't believe anything anyone else says like Rob, or Engaged, or wickedDude.. But that's your call, and you can disagree all ya like. Especially Engaged, who used to IM me every fucking day with updates on his potential Google job. I never judged him or called him out on any of it, and if anything I remember offering a shitload of advice too. Thanks Brandon, I appreciate you always flipping me the bird you douche. WickedDude, another douche who always has something arrogant or foolish to say. You two need to get together and run a suicide hotline in Iraq, this way our soldiers won't have as many crazy fucks to deal with, because they would all off themselves to your shitty advice and opinions on situations. I won't ban you guys either, so no worries. Rob you fucktwat, saying I don't own the TM on WickedFire. How about you use some of the cash you've made over the last few months and pay a lawyer a few hundred bucks to look it up. I'm sure you'll be surprised with what they find. We also just submitted another trademark application for the WF logo, and some other WF related words.
What I love about naysayers in general is they allllllways have a fucking opinion about everything, but never the facts to back it up. And then, when predictions come true, well shit, you never hear them bringing up the fact that they disagreed or didn't believe me ever again. What a shocker eh? When I first announced everything about the WF resource area, everyone jumped on me like I was defrauding them and asking to fuck their sisters. Sure, people kept poking fun at it and still do. But when it comes down to it, and you actually SEE what we are spending so much time and effort on, I guarantee you guys will be some of the first that want access to it. Which is why I'm banning you 3 for life from it. While I'm in charge here, none of you will ever get access to it. Ever. It's not really a punishment for speaking your mind, so don't try and play that card. It's for ALWAYS speaking before you think. Especially Engaged, you have a lot to learn Mr I'm a huge hedgefund manager dipshit but I am trying to suck Google's cock to land a $60k a year job that I have to move to California to do too. You are definitely two sided. You sit there in IM's typing away with no response from me for hours just entertaining yourself, and act all nice, and then come here and start being a royal douchebag. What exactly do you bring to the table anyway?
Here's the best part of it all. If you guys don't value this place, and you can honestly say reading and learning shit on here for free for the last few months hasn't helped you or your business, then why are you still here? It reminds me of those empty threats that every liberal said before Bush was re-elected. They all swore up and down they would leave to Canada if he won. Well, guess what, he won, and none of them left, and the world didn't end, and all of their dopey predictions never came true. Thankfully most of their bitching and whining calmed down as they accepted defeat, but they'll always hate him or whatever he stands for, because it's all they know how to bitch about and complain. That's what I think most of these cocksuckers who never believe me, but hang onto every fucking thread here do. They are here for the free and easy ride, and either shit just isn't going right in their life, or they could just be bipolar. Who knows. The end result is that people who don't believe me (I've never lied once either..), or what I say, or what I post, will probably never believe me, and I accept that.
But what I'd like to know is what the fuck have you 3 guys done for the community in general aside for bitching and moaning nonstop? Did you make a forum that actually does some good? No. Do you have a blog where you actually give out advice that other people don't touch? No. Do you post your earnings and try and answer as many real questions about it? No. Do you not accept any money for consulting to people you've never met? No. Do you hold lightning rounds answering every question that comes your way as quickly and detailed as possible? No. Did you volunteer yourself to stand up in front of a live crowd at ASW and instead of doing some prewritten presentation ask instead to just do live Q&A from the audience, unscripted? No. Do you guys actually do anything aside for sitting around, bitching, and trying to tell people I'm lying when I've never done so on here or on SPF? No. I can go on and on too, so again... what do you guys offer this place? So please, before you go on and try to just blurt out useless shit on things you have ZERO knowledge of or facts on, explain to me, and everyone else, WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY BRING TO THE FUCKING TABLE? Where are your earnings? Where are your volunteering time to answer questions every goddamn day? When did you ever invest lots of your own money into an idea or goal you were passionate about knowing full well that you wouldn't see any ROI for at least a year to help a community you are so fucking passionate about and involved in for so many years? That's what I'd like you assholes to answer.
Yeah, that pretty much covers it all for now.
/vent #2
Nope I agree. I even mentioned it on the phone "We have zero revenue. Technically, we are not even in the black or close to it from all of the cash I've been putting into it, and will continue to pour into it." And they still seemed to be interested in buying. I still have no real idea why someone would offer that much for this, but I'm also not asking them to understand my reasoning for rejecting the offer either, so maybe it was a good decision on my part, maybe not. But hey, I won't lose any sleep over it, and neither should any of you.
Fucking great!
Dude...!
I can't even begin to tell you how amazed I am at this decision.
Of course, all I have is a nice paying job (and hopefully getting out of it) so I have not reached your income level... so, yes it is hard to understand.
But it is not that hard to understand when one has been with this forum for a while.
Thank you.
And that vent #2 was brilliant. LOLing all the way through.
Damn I love this place.
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Dude...!
I can't even begin to tell you how amazed I am at this decision.
Of course, all I have is a nice paying job (and hopefully getting out of it) so I have not reached your income level... so, yes it is hard to understand.
But it is not that hard to understand when one has been with this forum for a while.
Thank you.
And that vent #2 was brilliant. LOLing all the way through.
Damn I love this place.
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