Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero

Coming up next in the outreach program: Swastikas, Statues of Kim Jong Il & Kim Sung Il (Juche ideology), Takbir & crescent flags etc.

You know if you turn a swastika a little we'd be paying homage to a good number of asian-based religions, namely Buddhist. It's amazing how just over a decade of history perverts a symbol of peace for over three thousand years.
 


I don't see the big deal. Oh wait, I forgot all muslims are extremists and want America to go to hell. There's no way followers of Islam just want to practice their faith and live their lives. Nope, they want to blow up this Country. /Sarcasm
 
... why should they have to move down the road? maybe they got a good price on the place, maybe it's ideally located to their patrons. When you boil it down any objection to them being there is just prejudice. I mean it may seem disrespectful to you if you're a christian and you associated the attack as being straight from Islam itself, but what bout the family of muslims who died in the attack, is it disrespectful to them to be told they shouldn't have a mosque anywhere near the site where their family members died, for the sake of not upsetting the "majority" religion of the land?

I don't care if you want to call it prejudice. That's fine. It was an extreme version of that religion in particular that caused the tragedy there. That's just a fact. Call it prejudiced thinking if you want to. But they know full well that it was extremists from their religion that caused it.

Again, they're not kicking them out of the country - just move it down the road. If I had a crazy uncle that shot up a school or something, I'd keep my kids away from that school out of respect for those grieving. Even though I had absolutely nothing to do w/ my crazy uncle, I'd know that my last name would bring up bad memories for people. It's just called respect. I don't care if I found the cheapest house in the state there. That has nothing to do with having respect for someone. And it's becoming apparent that very few people have it any more.
 
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Are you saying reaching out to other cultures is harmful to us?

Do you disagree that it is helpful?

Why is trying to change the popular image of the US/the West in the Muslim world a bad thing? Obviously we aren't reaching out to violent extremists/our enemies, we are reaching out to every day Muslims who influence the popular opinion/image of the West.

You're misunderstanding. We should never change our lifestyle to appease our enemies. It's exactly what they want us to do.
 
I don't care if you want to call it prejudice. That's fine. It was an extreme version of that religion in particular that caused the tragedy there. That's just a fact. Call it prejudiced thinking if you want to. But they know full well that it was extremists from their religion that caused it.

Again, they're not kicking them out of the country - just move it down the road. If I had a crazy uncle that shot up a school or something, I'd keep my kids away from that school out of respect for those grieving. Even though I had absolutely nothing to do w/ my crazy uncle, I'd know that my last name would bring up bad memories for people. It's just called respect. I don't care if I found the cheapest house in the state there. That has nothing to do with having respect for someone. And it's becoming apparent that very few people have it any more.

Right there plain and simple. No one is denying they have their right to practice their religion. Hell I would even say they can build it there if they want and I would still stick up for them in the constitution. I am 100% with this guy though if they had any respect they wouldn't place it right there. I don't give a shit what label you put on it, how you state it, lots of people are pissed about it and if you are that concerned with your public relations with us, I'd say just move it somewhere else.
 
Though I suppose it would probably help them if most of the american mosques or islamic organizations actually publicly condemned the action of their extremist followers, rather than saying nothing at all.

I agree with this 100%. I think some of the prejudice they have they bring on themselves. There is actually a blog (can't think of it at the moment) that a friend showed me of a woman who was born in one of those countries got out somehow and is now a Christian. Whatever, besides the point but I do remember specifically a blog post about this where she says they would be a lot better off if they constantly publicly alienated themselves from these extremists. I mean if they did that I think you would see a LOT less of the racism/prejudice whatever you wanna call it from the general public towards muslims.
 
Hell yeah it's insensitive but there's no point in me getting all pissy about it because whether I like it or not I believe that everyone in this country has to be treated fairly because the constitution says so. My issue is with everyone attacking Obama because he's saying what he HAS to say.

nah..I attack BO because he is the worst president that we have EVER had.
 
Partial List of Muslim 9/11 Victims:

  • Samad Afridi
  • Ashraf Ahmad
  • Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children)
  • Umar Ahmad
  • Azam Ahsan
  • Ahmed Ali
  • Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children)
  • Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran)
  • Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury
  • Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
  • Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack)
  • Jamal Legesse Desantis
  • Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
  • SaleemUllah Farooqi
  • Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes)
  • Osman Gani
  • Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old)
  • Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet)
  • Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom)
  • Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan)
  • Nabid Hossain
  • Shahzad Hussain
  • Talat Hussain
  • Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan)
  • Yasmeen Jamal
  • Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security)
  • Arslan Khan Khakwani
  • Asim Khan
  • Ataullah Khan
  • Ayub Khan
  • Qasim Ali Khan
  • Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
  • Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures)
  • Yasmeen Khan
  • Zahida Khan
  • Badruddin Lakhani
  • Omar Malick
  • Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old)
  • Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old)
  • Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures)
  • Raza Mujtaba
  • Omar Namoos
  • Mujeb Qazi
  • Tarranum Rahim
  • Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old)
  • Ameenia Rasool (33 years old)
  • Naveed Rehman
  • Yusuf Saad
  • Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant)
  • Shoman Samad
  • Asad Samir
  • Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November)
  • Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
  • Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust)
  • Jamil Swaati
  • Sanober Syed
  • Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
  • Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie)
  • W. Wahid

They were infidels working with the non-believers or they were martyred for allmighty ALLAH!!!! don't you ever read???

P.S. Yes lets appease ANYONE that wants to do ANYTHING in the name of religion!!!! Then we can turn into what most of EUROPE has become!!!! Then in 20 years we can be FORCED to forship the allmighty ALLAH!!!!! LETS FUCKIN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!
P.S.S. Where are all the internet kids posting spagetti monsters, calling the muslims idiots and red necks etc. Damn I forgot only the Jews and Christians are idiots.
 
ATTENTION AMERICANS....it's going to be alright

True Americans, do NOT worry. We WILL shut those towelhead's shit down as soon as we find them guilty of sodomizing goats and camels inside the mosque. It is also illegal to possess the amounts of plutonium that they will have.

After I conducted hours of research, I came to find out that those dirty muslims will not be able to sustain living conditions within the Mosque at ground zero. Why? The lack of sand.

I have also come up with a theory to desensitize the western islamic population. Simply modify the quran to allow freedom for women, goats, camels, allow men to masturbate + have sex, and remove the sections where it preaches to murder infidels (non-muslims). In addition, we shall add a section in the quran entitled "Tolerance," which will advocate to the muslims how to understand western comedy and how to accept the western lifestyle without involving violence. Finally, we will add a section at the end that explains how it is the rightful duty of the muslim man to drill for oil and immediately turn over all of their lucrative discoveries to the American Army. Last but not least, we will add a dozen pages that teach muslims that marijuana is the plant provided by Muhammad, and in order to be a true muslim, they must smoke marijuana whenever they are feeling anger. This would reduce Islamic violence by 600%.

I will call this theory the NACTI (North American Cure To Islam).

We will modify this quran, and use our capabilities of affiliate marketing to sell 6 billion qurans to 6 billion muslims on earth. The result? An END TO GLOBAL VIOLENCE, Poverty, Female enslavement, animal torture, and Satanism.

Thank You for your support. :rasta:
 
They are faulting Obama for backing it. So yeah, they are. Turn on FOX news or read the OP link, stupid fuck.

You're a moron who believes everything that retard Obama says. People aren't saying the government should do shit, they're saying the mosque-backers should get the fucking hint and relocate.

Maybe you should ponder in your stupid brain why these people would INSIST on building it there given the huge amount of resistance its generated? Have you ever contemplated that, you fucking sheep?
 
They were infidels working with the non-believers or they were martyred for allmighty ALLAH!!!! don't you ever read???

P.S. Yes lets appease ANYONE that wants to do ANYTHING in the name of religion!!!! Then we can turn into what most of EUROPE has become!!!! Then in 20 years we can be FORCED to forship the allmighty ALLAH!!!!! LETS FUCKIN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!
P.S.S. Where are all the internet kids posting spagetti monsters, calling the muslims idiots and red necks etc. Damn I forgot only the Jews and Christians are idiots.

You realize if you're Christian you worship the same God as Muslims.... right?

BTW, you never answered my question. Why aren't you bitching about the mosque that already exists a few blocks from ground zero? Because Hannity didn't tell you to, that's why.
 
You realize if you're Christian you worship the same God as Muslims.... right?

BTW, you never answered my question. Why aren't you bitching about the mosque that already exists a few blocks from ground zero? Because Hannity didn't tell you to, that's why.

NO IF YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN, YOUR A FUCKING INFIDEL AND YOU ARE GOING TO DIE AND YOU WONT GO TO HEAVEN NOR GET 72 VIRGIN BITCHES GOSH DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
 
You realize if you're Christian you worship the same God as Muslims.... right?

BTW, you never answered my question. Why aren't you bitching about the mosque that already exists a few blocks from ground zero? Because Hannity didn't tell you to, that's why.

Don't give a fuck if a mosque is allready there. What are we to do? We can't tear it down. I am speaking of the mosque that a radical Imam and his followers want to erect at the location where his own cult killed 3000 people. Thats like opening up an outreach branch of the people's temple in Jonestown, Guyana.

Really though I can't take any of you wana be athiest arguments concerning this matter, seriously. When you bash one religion and not ALL others then it just makes you look like a bunch of backward dumbasses with some community college credits.
 
When you bash one religion and not ALL others then it just makes you look like a bunch of backward dumbasses with some community college credits.

I agree with popeye, all religion should be scorned equally. With liberty and stupidity for all.
 
Really though I can't take any of you wana be athiest arguments concerning this matter, seriously. When you bash one religion and not ALL others then it just makes you look like a bunch of backward dumbasses with some community college credits.

Oh trust me, I don't like any religions. If I had my way there wouldn't be a need for any temples, mosques, churches, synagogues, etc. I just find it hilarious when one religious group bashes another religious group... especially when they worship the same God and have the same fucked up history.

When you come in bitching like you do, you just look like a backward dumbass with a few college credits and a payday loan "business".
 
I fail to see an issue with the mosque. The US is a country that prides itself in freedom, and that includes religious freedom. If someone wanted to build a Catholic church there, this wouldn't even be in the news.

By taking offense you are basically calling all Muslims terrorists...and something tells me condemning a whole people is wrong and racist.

This whole thing has been blown up by the media and politicians. I mean, comon', it's a single mosque that won't affect anyone in the US unless he's Muslim and wants to visit. If Obama's against it, people will scream that he's infringing on personal freedom. If he's in favor of the mosque, the political right will use this to further promote their "omgomgomg terrorist, Obama's really a Muslim, and we all know Muslims are terrorists..." agenda.

We have wars going on, the economy collapsed, stock markets are plunging, people are losing their jobs...and you are upset about a random house of worship??? ARE YOU SERIOUS?????

The whole think is related to religion, and shouldn't even affect anyone's life! What makes this mosque so different than the next closes mosque that's less than 500 yards away??? Why is this one such a huge issue and all the other mosques aren't if they all do the same thing there...praying? I mean, send some undercover guy there once in a while to check that the Imam isn't an extremist...but anything else is just borderline paranoia and racism.
 
We can only hope bro. Anyways, I am trying to find this email someone sent me, it is a picture of the past like 7 presidents giving speeches and they're all in front of an American flag backdrop or something. They show each @ like 5 speeches. Then they show this asshat (Obama) and his last 10 speeches. Nothing American about it. He is in front of things like gold pillars and shit.

Does anyone have this or seen this?


"Gold pillars and shit" are in the east room of the whitehouse and have been there for years.

There's hundreds of photos of Obama speaking in front of the American flag. I don't know what was behind him during his last 10 speeches, but let's just say that the accuracy level is rather small for email forwards of this nature.


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