You laugh but how many people would vote for John Hitler in 2012? Names mean a lot to the unwashed masses.
Obviously not too much, because Barack Hussein Obama (as Rush and Hannity always reminded us) got elected...
You laugh but how many people would vote for John Hitler in 2012? Names mean a lot to the unwashed masses.
Obviously not too much, because Barack Hussein Obama (as Rush and Hannity always reminded us) got elected...
Fuck it - I'll jump into this derailed thread too. I should start by saying I don't believe Islam to be a peaceful religion. I base that on actually reading the Qu'ran, not someone's interpretation of it, or the actions of some professed believers in it. It is a violent book, and calls for violent actions/reactions in the name of spreading itself.
However, the other Abrahamic religions have violent histories (not just one "defensive" war Popeye..) and the Old Testament in particular sanctions violence in a big way. If anyone disputes that we can go chapter and verse in this mother fucker if we need to. That doesn't make Christians or Jews violent, but the Old Testament is what it is. The reality is, very few Christians make it beyond Psalms, Proverbs, Matthew/Mark/Luke/John, Genesis and Revelations. Those are only 8 of the 66 books in the Christian Bible and as a result most Christians don't fully understand their religion. I'm not saying that to bash Christians, but I think it's important to come to terms with what your "Holy Book" actually says, before you start ripping apart someone else's equally flawed "Holy Book".
The difference is that Christianity as a religion is older, and the mainstream interpretation of the religion has matured out of it's violent nature for the most part. Some would argue that Christianity is still as violent based on all the wars that have been waged by supposedly Christian nations, but I wouldn't go that far because unless the war is waged on the basis of religion, then I wouldn't say it's quite the same.
Christianity and Judaism both have extremely violent, and often oppressive pasts and their holy books advocate violence in a big way, but Islam is certainly a bigger threat today and far from a religion of peace. But like every other holy book, many of its contents can be interpreted in various ways, and the underlying flaw of human nature that makes everybody so goddamn sure that they are the only ones that possess the absolute truth and everybody else is either ignorant or simply mislead is what leads to all this goddamn violence in the name of religion.
I always laugh when some obvious 8th grade drop out (or tent dweller for that matter) seems to think that they possess the keys to knowledge in this world and insist on making a fool of themselves trying to convince and convert others that their way and their interpretation of a flawed book (pick one) is the only way to get to (fill in the blank fantasy). Religion in a nutshell...
What was this thread about again...? Oh yeah, Obama and Bush suck.
Don't single them out alone. So easily you forget the teacher "Mmm Mmm Mmm... Barack Hussein Obama"
Meh, these discussions are practically moot anyways:
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Pretty pointless if you don't average in all the polls together, since the polls are strictly based upon who they ask, and who's answer they choose to include. (and besides that chart is only based on 1,500 likely voters...)
Pretty pointless if you don't average in all the polls together, since the polls are strictly based upon who they ask, and who's answer they choose to include. (and besides that chart is only based on 1,500 likely voters...)
Rasmussen has proven to be one of the best polling systems available. They nailed the last pres. election. Many Democratic pollsters agree with this...of course, only when the numbers are in their favor.
Rasmussen's polling is fine, but I guess I'm missing the point. People support him a lot less now because they see he hasn't done shit. My point was simply that they elected him last year, despite all the emphasis on his unfortunate name leading up to the elections. The argumnet was that if people had focused more on his middle name, that he wouldn't have been elected, and I just pointed out that his name was well known and he still got elected.
I'm just skeptical that one could weigh the assumption of what 300+ million citizens think, based on a mere 1.5 thousand random people polled, especially since shifting the location of those people even one mile could come out with a vastly different/random result depending on exactly where they are polling.
Besides the weight of expectation is always greatest the first year, people tend to expect an immediate return on their invested vote. I personally don't think McCain could have done any better sooner (especially with Palin draging him down), given how fucked we were to begin with.
Also he has done plenty thus far... just a matter of do people really approve of it enough to consider it an effort (or even think what he did was effective or not)?
What could Palin have done that has been any worse than Biden's fuckups? Don't get me wrong, she wasn't ready to be in a Presidential position but I don't think the Vice Presidency is that demanding. If Al Gore and Biden can pretend to be a VP, then Palin could as well.
Mccain is another story. Im not sure he would have done anything any different then carry on the whole Bush agenda minus waterboarding.
Now that Obama has had the chance, he sure has seriously fucked up our diplomatic image
All this talk of religion makes me wish someone would post some boobs and get it over with
Fixed it for ya
it might be appropriate to change the title of VP to "Diplomatic Concubine"
she just got us an oil field spending an evening with the Sheik...
WTF? Could you be any more sexist?