Obama Gives International Police Force Immunity From American Law



Obviously not too much, because Barack Hussein Obama (as Rush and Hannity always reminded us) got elected...

Don't single them out alone. So easily you forget the teacher "Mmm Mmm Mmm... Barack Hussein Obama"

Meh, these discussions are practically moot anyways:

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Fuck it - I'll jump into this derailed thread too. I should start by saying I don't believe Islam to be a peaceful religion. I base that on actually reading the Qu'ran, not someone's interpretation of it, or the actions of some professed believers in it. It is a violent book, and calls for violent actions/reactions in the name of spreading itself.

However, the other Abrahamic religions have violent histories (not just one "defensive" war Popeye..) and the Old Testament in particular sanctions violence in a big way. If anyone disputes that we can go chapter and verse in this mother fucker if we need to. That doesn't make Christians or Jews violent, but the Old Testament is what it is. The reality is, very few Christians make it beyond Psalms, Proverbs, Matthew/Mark/Luke/John, Genesis and Revelations. Those are only 8 of the 66 books in the Christian Bible and as a result most Christians don't fully understand their religion. I'm not saying that to bash Christians, but I think it's important to come to terms with what your "Holy Book" actually says, before you start ripping apart someone else's equally flawed "Holy Book".

The difference is that Christianity as a religion is older, and the mainstream interpretation of the religion has matured out of it's violent nature for the most part. Some would argue that Christianity is still as violent based on all the wars that have been waged by supposedly Christian nations, but I wouldn't go that far because unless the war is waged on the basis of religion, then I wouldn't say it's quite the same.

Christianity and Judaism both have extremely violent, and often oppressive pasts and their holy books advocate violence in a big way, but Islam is certainly a bigger threat today and far from a religion of peace. But like every other holy book, many of its contents can be interpreted in various ways, and the underlying flaw of human nature that makes everybody so goddamn sure that they are the only ones that possess the absolute truth and everybody else is either ignorant or simply mislead is what leads to all this goddamn violence in the name of religion.

I always laugh when some obvious 8th grade drop out (or tent dweller for that matter) seems to think that they possess the keys to knowledge in this world and insist on making a fool of themselves trying to convince and convert others that their way and their interpretation of a flawed book (pick one) is the only way to get to (fill in the blank fantasy). Religion in a nutshell...

What was this thread about again...? Oh yeah, Obama and Bush suck.

You are correct. Moses (in the old testament) commanded that adultery be punished by stoning. Followers of the old testament back in the day wouldn't have seemed much different than the muslim extremist of today. Without a long drawn out biblical response: The sacrifice of Jesus upon the cross did away with "the Law" of Moses (this is how it has been explained to me by a few folks that I believe know what the hell they are talking about).

However, my argument is not a pissing match on which religeon is "the most rightous" I simply pointed out the ignorance of people relating the violence of Christians in today's world to that of barbaric muslim extremist.

So rant on buddy...it's out of context as far as my post are concerned but amusing nontheless.
 
Don't single them out alone. So easily you forget the teacher "Mmm Mmm Mmm... Barack Hussein Obama"

Meh, these discussions are practically moot anyways:

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Pretty pointless if you don't average in all the polls together, since the polls are strictly based upon who they ask, and who's answer they choose to include. (and besides that chart is only based on 1,500 likely voters...)
 
Pretty pointless if you don't average in all the polls together, since the polls are strictly based upon who they ask, and who's answer they choose to include. (and besides that chart is only based on 1,500 likely voters...)

Rasmussen is random and non-partisan polling. Their methods are based on the premise that people who are 'strongly' for or against something are a much more precise barometer of actual support than if they asked generally "do you support or not support". Those other polls give too much weight to the apathetic sheeple who know zip about anything and glue themselves to reality TV too much.
 
Pretty pointless if you don't average in all the polls together, since the polls are strictly based upon who they ask, and who's answer they choose to include. (and besides that chart is only based on 1,500 likely voters...)

Rasmussen has proven to be one of the best polling systems available. They nailed the last pres. election. Many Democratic pollsters agree with this...of course, only when the numbers are in their favor.
 
Rasmussen has proven to be one of the best polling systems available. They nailed the last pres. election. Many Democratic pollsters agree with this...of course, only when the numbers are in their favor.

I'm just skeptical that one could weigh the assumption of what 300+ million citizens think, based on a mere 1.5 thousand random people polled, especially since shifting the location of those people even one mile could come out with a vastly different/random result depending on exactly where they are polling.
 
Rasmussen's polling is fine, but I guess I'm missing the point. People support him a lot less now because they see he hasn't done shit. My point was simply that they elected him last year, despite all the emphasis on his unfortunate name leading up to the elections. The argumnet was that if people had focused more on his middle name, that he wouldn't have been elected, and I just pointed out that his name was well known and he still got elected.
 
Rasmussen's polling is fine, but I guess I'm missing the point. People support him a lot less now because they see he hasn't done shit. My point was simply that they elected him last year, despite all the emphasis on his unfortunate name leading up to the elections. The argumnet was that if people had focused more on his middle name, that he wouldn't have been elected, and I just pointed out that his name was well known and he still got elected.

Besides the weight of expectation is always greatest the first year, people tend to expect an immediate return on their invested vote. I personally don't think McCain could have done any better sooner (especially with Palin draging him down), given how fucked we were to begin with.

Also he has done plenty thus far... just a matter of do people really approve of it enough to consider it an effort (or even think what he did was effective or not)? Like this thing with Interpol, thats a bold move, he did something, I wouldn't say most of us would approve though, especially since the Govt, hate em or not, should have the supreme authority on our own soil.
 
I'm just skeptical that one could weigh the assumption of what 300+ million citizens think, based on a mere 1.5 thousand random people polled, especially since shifting the location of those people even one mile could come out with a vastly different/random result depending on exactly where they are polling.

It's daily phone polling. They choose a different batch of 1500 people each day randomly and that's why it's demonstrated in chart form over time to show the consensus based on the results of each day's polling.
 
Besides the weight of expectation is always greatest the first year, people tend to expect an immediate return on their invested vote. I personally don't think McCain could have done any better sooner (especially with Palin draging him down), given how fucked we were to begin with.

Also he has done plenty thus far... just a matter of do people really approve of it enough to consider it an effort (or even think what he did was effective or not)?

What could Palin have done that has been any worse than Biden's fuckups? Don't get me wrong, she wasn't ready to be in a Presidential position but I don't think the Vice Presidency is that demanding. If Al Gore and Biden can pretend to be a VP, then Palin could as well.

Mccain is another story. Im not sure he would have done anything any different then carry on the whole Bush agenda minus waterboarding.
 
Oh and Popeye - Jesus didn't "undo" the law - if that was the case it would be okay to steal, murder etc,. There are 4 types of law in the Old Testament - Civil, Criminal, Dietary and Sacrificial. Since he was "The Lamb of God", he was said to be the final sacrifice so he only undid the sacrificial laws. In fact, he even said in Matthew that he did not come to change the law but to fulfill it.

Since he was the final sacrifice, only the dietary, criminal and civil laws remained in effect. Some people would argue that based on his actions, the dietary laws were undone as well, but that's more a matter of opinion.

Of course, I just think Jesus was the David Blaine of his day so maybe I'm a little biased.
 
What could Palin have done that has been any worse than Biden's fuckups? Don't get me wrong, she wasn't ready to be in a Presidential position but I don't think the Vice Presidency is that demanding. If Al Gore and Biden can pretend to be a VP, then Palin could as well.

Mccain is another story. Im not sure he would have done anything any different then carry on the whole Bush agenda minus waterboarding.

I think that if Palin has the chance, she could seriously fuck up our diplomatic image, since there's a bit of harm to be done if she were to travel a bit.

:P Though with a lot of the comments during the election, I would think it might be appropriate to change the title of VP to "Diplomatic Concubine" if she were to travel :D "Sir, she just got us an oil field spending an evening with the Sheik, hot-damn"
 
it might be appropriate to change the title of VP to "Diplomatic Concubine"

she just got us an oil field spending an evening with the Sheik...

WTF? Could you be any more sexist?

I swear you retards don't even realize what you're saying half the time.
 
WTF? Could you be any more sexist?

I could be quite easily... :D I didn't think it was nearly as bad as some of the comments made against muslims :P

PS: Bout time you chimed back into your own thread with more than one sentence.

Also you left out the part where I mentioned "Though with a lot of the comments during the election", so was a reflection of what everyone been saying here and elsewhere already, so their sexist mindset fuels my comment :D