Actually last year I read in a few articles that many old people who only had 10-15 years of life left, volunteered themselves to help clear the radiation polluted regions, since even if they got a radition-caused disease they wouldn't like much longer anyway.
Nuclear Power is safe. Fuck you if you disagree.
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Actually last year I read in a few articles that many old people who only had 10-15 years of life left, volunteered themselves to help clear the radiation polluted regions, since even if they got a radition-caused disease they wouldn't like much longer anyway.
Isn't LENR too powerful for us to get hold of at the moment? Something that powerful and widely accessible could be misused by a lot of people.
Maybe we need more time to be wise enough to possess the technology
If we really got a lot of tech from aliens, then maybe we don't have LENR yet for the reason I started above :2gunsfiring_v1:
The japanese should go for it!
Yeah, and they aren't actually safe given the long half life and the fact that you have to worry about earthquakes, natural disasters, terrorist attacks and accidents in the mean time or that fact that it's only three years until the US runs out of spent fuel pools.
You are repeating the smear against LENR by those who would lose Trillions of dollars a year from this technology.
LENR is NOT cold Fusion, by definition. It is not any kind of fusion at all, there is no fusion taking place in a LENR reaction.
Andre Rossi has done far more to hurt the good name of LENR than you'll ever know. I personally believe he's an Oil Industry plant now, since he doesn't have much money to gain but keeps stretching this shit out so long...
We've been through this on a very long-running thread before... I'd recommend that you start reading it at this point to get caught up to date.
Now that you've read that, and seen the NASA slideshows and the CERN presentation, (CERN, by the way, would be the world's top authority on both Fusion and LENR) what are you going to believe? Dr. Zawodny's original film linked above, or the hurried retraction he was forced to post about it a day or two later once the public started to link him to the bastard Rossi?
Clearly LENR is real and ppl at CERN and NASA are excited about it... Of course this doesn't mean we'll ever see it developed, I admit, because that wouldn't be very profitable for the powers that be. So really, all we can do is hope that the powers that be aren't in power somewhere that will develop it before we're too far past Peak Oil.
That statement sounds a bit like religion to me. Of course we should have been more careful with Nuclear technology too, but we certainly were able to do so.Isn't LENR too powerful for us to get hold of at the moment? Something that powerful and widely accessible could be misused by a lot of people.
Maybe we need more time to be wise enough to possess the technology
So to insinuate that we shouldn't have a clean energy generation technology just because we may make new weapons out of it is like saying that humans should never have learned to sharpen knives at all because we could kill each other with them.
Too bad Obama killed Yucca Mountain eh? Safe, underground, no water table near, not on a fault line or near one, and safe from attack. Not all waste is currently in pools anyway, look up dry cask storage.
Until they figure out how to make nuclear waste inert it'll always be dangerous. Stashing it away in a mountain for a couple of centuries and hoping nothing bad happens isn't a solution, it's wishful thinking.
I am just not buying something that isn't well peer reviewed yet, sorry. Or am I missing something here?
So... what is the proper definition then?
He's not the only one doing this though and I wonder what wing he has.
Yea, I think this is pretty exciting when big guys like NASA and CERN jump into the bandwagon, but it doesn't mean that this LENR is working now as what you've been portrayed. Their current status is still investigating & testing and there is still no result has been handed over to the scientific community to be peer reviewed so far (correct me if wrong).
Good thing about science is... everybody does have rights to talk about anything... but it's only get accepted as fact when compelling evidence & testable explanation is found. So, once again... until such evidence is found, I'll remain skeptics and it's still left behind hot fusion.
Nothing wrong to give it some hope though, but stating that LENR is proven works now is a bit too much and could lead us to make a wrong conclusion. The only thing we can do now is let's see what is going to happen next. Cheers...
Temperature climbing in No. 4 reactor's pool after cooling system knocked out | The Japan Times Online
Sunday, July 1, 2012
Temperature climbing in No. 4 reactor's pool after cooling system knocked out
Kyodo
The cooling system of the spent-fuel pool in reactor 4 at the Fukushima No. 1 plant automatically suspended operations Saturday and the water temperature is starting to rise, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.
The utility has been unable to activate a backup cooling system for the pool since operations halted at around 6.25 a.m., and is looking into the causes, Tepco officials said later in the day.
The pool's water temperature stood at around 31 degrees Celsius when the cooling system ceased functioning and was increasing by 0.26 degree per hour late Saturday afternoon, according to the officials.
If Tepco remains unable to start up the system or its backup, the temperature could reach 65 degrees by Tuesday morning — the maximum limit specified by safety regulations.
No leakage of contaminated water from the reactor has been detected so far, Tepco said.
The No. 4 reactor's cooling system previously shut down June 4.
Sunday, July 1, 2012
Temperature climbing in No. 4 reactor's pool after cooling system knocked out
Kyodo
The cooling system of the spent-fuel pool in reactor 4 at the Fukushima No. 1 plant automatically suspended operations Saturday and the water temperature is starting to rise, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.
The utility has been unable to activate a backup cooling system for the pool since operations halted at around 6.25 a.m., and is looking into the causes, Tepco officials said later in the day.
The pool's water temperature stood at around 31 degrees Celsius when the cooling system ceased functioning and was increasing by 0.26 degree per hour late Saturday afternoon, according to the officials.
If Tepco remains unable to start up the system or its backup, the temperature could reach 65 degrees by Tuesday morning — the maximum limit specified by safety regulations.
No leakage of contaminated water from the reactor has been detected so far, Tepco said.
The No. 4 reactor's cooling system previously shut down June 4.
Well while yall debate on the source of power this shit makes power by making it clean as will smith;s lyrics:
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BWAHAHAHA!
That was so sad that I burst out laughing...
I've never seen a better example of a product that could never be sold.
If it was made for the enduser, they'd have something to sell here. -But as it is, it has been engineered to be sold to powerplants... Who would have to spend money on it in order to sell their customers less power.
LULZ!
BWAHAHAHA!
That was so sad that I burst out laughing...
I've never seen a better example of a product that could never be sold.
If it was made for the enduser, they'd have something to sell here. -But as it is, it has been engineered to be sold to powerplants... Who would have to spend money on it in order to sell their customers less power.
LULZ!
Some states, like California are hard pressed for power during peak times. Can't think of how many times I've heard of 'rolling black or brown outs'. With the US going to cut the size of the nuclear power plant fleet, it really makes sense.
I respect your optimism bro, but put yourself in Edison's shoes. (Edison the SoCal power co.)
Sure they've got the mayor of all those towns constantly harassing them but they also have stockholders who want to get paid.
If they were to purchase this system cheap, and roll it out immediately their option would be to do one of the following:
1. Take a 50% freaking hit in income as they suddenly start billing for far less power. (Which of course would get them sued by their own stockholders.)
2. Double prices, inducing mass rioting in every city.
3. Introduce a new billing plan that is fair, but the public won't understand, will likely fear and get upset about, and worse yet, will obviously be taken advantage of by all bordering customers who want to resell their power around the periphery.
About the only way to roll this out is to have every state adopt it at the same time with a mass media blitz so everyone understands that they're going on a new smart grid that works a whole new way.