New Thread Fee in Links & SEO $122?
- Thread starter 7thAmigo
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Repeat sales, upsells, subscriptions, agency work.
Also, 80% margins are possible if you can automate. If you actually have labor costs, its very hard to get those margins, although everyone should be aiming for them.
If you have an actual agency and provide other high-end services, I can understand, but if you're a 1-trick poney, like most providers here, what's there to upsell? You really just need ridiculously high sales volumes to break 6 figures.
The other thing is that you need a good rep on a forum in order to build yourself a good network of repeat clients. To build this type of rep you would probably need to open more than 1 thread.
Some people are selling $200-300 services and getting 20-30 orders a day. Think about how much SGW made. I personally spent probably 10k myself on it and I was a small fish.
So you're saying he's the exception? I can think of five other services in the BST that have almost guaranteed to hit $1m in revenue. I can think of 10 more that are on their way as well.
No one said everyone is doing it. There are a handful of smart guys who have done it.
There are a lot of ways to skin a cat.
Remember folks, "can't is the cancer of happen".
So they manage to make 3,333+ sales @ $300/sale? Don't be stupid.
I have no problem believing there's people on this forum who do millions a year. Get fucked if you think I'm believing people made a mill+ gross on a single sales thread though.
So eventually the lame services will be weeded out of BST, and only the effective and of high quality services will be available.
From other perspective, people will just buy whatever BST service because those are perceived as the best ones. There will be no need to buy and test, and will that eventually lower the barrier of entry to the SE1 game?
From other perspective, people will just buy whatever BST service because those are perceived as the best ones. There will be no need to buy and test, and will that eventually lower the barrier of entry to the SE1 game?
.I thought you were going to stop posting because you were looking a little more stupid with each post? You should've followed your advice instead of going full HURR DURR.
BTW, I started the thread with a question to ask if the price was for two weeks or monthly and then arguments won over me.
I make a good amount of money here on WF and didn't mean to offend anyone (and specially you Jon!).
And you can scratch my above post. Won't open multiple services in one thread.
Is there a WickedFire Rehab Center to get off the watch list?
Love the strong vision, Jon. Great, I would love to see the BST section move in that direction. This industry could use it. Wafo and BHW definitely aren't going to attract the top-level clientele any time soon.
I think though, if this really is the end goal, then the culture of the BST section here will need to start changing.
Lets be honest, the threads which do very well here are flavor of the month mystery link spam packages wrapped in a wickedfire style salespage candy coating.
A couple months later the algo is corrected, the service bombs and many of the sites who used the service get slapped. Most of these providers know this and some openly state their service is best used by those looking to rank, bank, wash and repeat.
These aren't the type of links one looks to use on their 10k a month retainer corporate client. I personally know someone who does 200k+ a month in SEO client work and after his taste of a couple of these BST services, he treats the BST section here like the plague.
I have no problem with the rank and bank services. They are put together by very smart members here and work great for members using a rank and bank strategy. It works great for people whose strategy is based on short term manipulation. They just are not going to promote the top-level image you're looking for.
Anyways, just pointing out we currently have a larger customer base interested in short term manipulation vs. those who are interested in long term authority.
I think though, if this really is the end goal, then the culture of the BST section here will need to start changing.
Lets be honest, the threads which do very well here are flavor of the month mystery link spam packages wrapped in a wickedfire style salespage candy coating.
A couple months later the algo is corrected, the service bombs and many of the sites who used the service get slapped. Most of these providers know this and some openly state their service is best used by those looking to rank, bank, wash and repeat.
These aren't the type of links one looks to use on their 10k a month retainer corporate client. I personally know someone who does 200k+ a month in SEO client work and after his taste of a couple of these BST services, he treats the BST section here like the plague.
I have no problem with the rank and bank services. They are put together by very smart members here and work great for members using a rank and bank strategy. It works great for people whose strategy is based on short term manipulation. They just are not going to promote the top-level image you're looking for.
Anyways, just pointing out we currently have a larger customer base interested in short term manipulation vs. those who are interested in long term authority.
Let's make a bet? If I lose - I'll send you $, if you lose - you have to do something stupid based on the forum's choosing.
Yes sorry friend. Jon no offer layaway plan. So continue to save your ruppees and soon enough by the Grace of Allah you will be able to pay said fee.
It's ok
Welcome to WF, bro
Think about it tho, if nobody paid for threads, BST would look like your facebook feed.
Welcome to WF, bro
Think about it tho, if nobody paid for threads, BST would look like your facebook feed.
I rarely buy linkbuilding from any open forum, but I somewhat disagree with this. There are also several threads selling links from articles on decent sites at reasonable prices. These are the kinds of links you can use for your corporate clients.
What I really, really would like to go away are the ones selling ALN/mass blog posts and random ineffective Web 2.0 spam.
Those services, unlike the hyper-mega spam, neither provide enough spamboost nor sustainability.
Go big or go home with spam. It's the spam marketed at $27-37 that will do the most harm. It belongs on Wafo and I hope the higher prices will weed it out.