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Thanks dude.

You figure this out? I don't want to get fucked by Google - pretty as they may be - as I'm going for the longer term autoblog approach.

Not yet but I am not much of a coder either. If I stare at someone's code long enough I can tweak it but I have not had the chance to give it a try yet. I will let you know when I find something.
 


Do you mean 5-10 posts per day as in the date on the blog or actually only submitting 5-10 posts per physical day? So in otherwords when you're first starting a blog and if you want to back date it 30 days (or to whenever) can you do 5-10 posts per "day" (so start off with 300 posts)? Or would that be too much?

And while I'm on that topic...how far back should you make a blog so as to make it look like it's been around for a while? this is doable right? (I'm sure I've read about it somewhere)

I don't really know why everyone is still so concerned with dates on a blog. I have never in my entire online career seen any proof that dates mean anything at all.

You want to know what I do to get around dates? I remove the meta descriptions from my wordpress themes so it doesn't show post dates, most people are smart enough to know that on a blog the most recent post will be up front, and for auto-blogs it doesn't really matter cause your just aiming for a quick click anyway.

Now as for the SEO point of view this is where I've never ever seen nor have I ever heard of Google or any search engine for that matter take a blogs date into consideration. Now if you try and tell me that I'm wrong and its called Google's Freshness Factor then your way behind in SEO.

First off Google does not take your on-site dates into consideration for the biggest reason. They CAN and ARE changable by the creator of the site or anyone with proper access.

In the past Google clearly stated on a number of things that if something can be changed up enough to make there system unsecure then they simply would not go that route so for them to take dates into consideration is pointless.

Instead what they do is take a factor of things to determine its freshness and uniqueness, see my theory still holds true and I've tested this more then I know how too and its never failed me. That theory is the search engines CANNOT consider your content duplicate or OLD if they have never before indexed it.

Pretty simple stuff, this means that if I pump out 100,000 posts in one day on a auto-blog and Google comes to index my site they have no way of knowing which content is new and which is old, they will only be able to determine which is fresh and which isn't AFTER they index some pages on your site.

Now with all this I should mention that if Google finds your site for the first time and they see 100,000 pages or even a Million pages they will be careful and they will treat is suspeciously but most of the time you'll be safe if its not extremely spammy stuff and of course if some content is unique, they treat bigger sites like this because they figure that if a site is that big that they should have easily indexed parts of that site in the past, not a whole lot of sites start up with that much content, actually as you can tell the majority of sites don't start up with that much content and they know this.

So again dates mean shit to me and they are only there for the humans reading your pages.

Do you know of anyway to tweak Autoblog to limit the number of posts it puts up in a day or do I need to tweak the feeds that it uses to get it to average that?

I have no idea, I use my own software for this which enables me to basically do anything I want with an auto-blog thats including setting up a post limit.
 
So again dates mean shit to me and they are only there for the humans reading your pages.

Erm, some of us still build sites for humans... they're the ones with the wallets.
 
...OOOOooHHHH You can't have one with out the OOOOther.....

Wait. This is a good thread I refuse to derail it with my fantastic singing voice.

Thanks for the in debth answer Aequitas and for your witty sarcasm Springer, as usual, both are much appreciated. :)
 
Erm, some of us still build sites for humans... they're the ones with the wallets.

heh Sherlock, do you think there is a nice old lady in their mid-sixties having nothing better to do than indexing your pages? :D

aequitas is talking about the bots, and I totally agree, google has better ways to check if your content is fresh or not, they would never use something as easy to tweak as a published date in your rss feed.

they have one of the largest news aggregators out there, so how difficult would it be to check if your post is something the world is talking about right now...
 
heh Sherlock, do you think there is a nice old lady in their mid-sixties having nothing better to do than indexing your pages? :D

aequitas is talking about the bots, and I totally agree, google has better ways to check if your content is fresh or not, they would never use something as easy to tweak as a published date in your rss feed.

they have one of the largest news aggregators out there, so how difficult would it be to check if your post is something the world is talking about right now...

What EV er...

I don't change my dates for the spiders, I do it for the people who spend the money on my sites.

I get all my pages indexed just fine (whether I post 10 or 100 or 100,000 pages a day) and, when a human visits one of my sites, it looks like something they'll be interested in and something I actually pay attention to so, they actually subscribe to my feeds and come back... and SPEND MORE MONEY!

You do it your way and I'll do it my way.
 
Generic domains or specific domains?

I know this has been talked about randomly before but I don't recall if it's been in an autoblogging/wpmu kind of way. So I know it would be ideal to have a domain like stayfit.com and then have 20 blogs surronding it like workouts.stayfit.com and dietplan.stayfit.com but what if you have just generic domain hanging around like shazam.com and you want to do 20 random blogs like toehealth.shazam.com and legaladvice.shazam.com...anyone see any issues with that? (for example I've read about someone having possibly having problems with adsense going with the domain, so for example they were getting austin powers ads because of "shazam")
 
Generic domains or specific domains?

I know this has been talked about randomly before but I don't recall if it's been in an autoblogging/wpmu kind of way. So I know it would be ideal to have a domain like stayfit.com and then have 20 blogs surronding it like workouts.stayfit.com and dietplan.stayfit.com but what if you have just generic domain hanging around like shazam.com and you want to do 20 random blogs like toehealth.shazam.com and legaladvice.shazam.com...anyone see any issues with that? (for example I've read about someone having possibly having problems with adsense going with the domain, so for example they were getting austin powers ads because of "shazam")

I'm interested to know this as well. Reason being is that I have set up all my autoblogs on subdomains on the subdomain.allrelevant.info domain.
 
subdomains should not be a problem, and I guess if you have a whole bunch of autoblogs or similar sites, its not really manageable with single domains for each page.

I'd use a general domain name like fuspot.com, barspace.org etc
but remember, a domain including the keywords weights probably more than a subdomain
 
Hey, don't knock it. Some of us are severely retarded when it comes to this stuff (alright maybe just one of us :D) And I'm a firm believer, that if you can be spared the screaming of profanities and headbanging by outsourcing it, then so be it.

I wasn't knocking it at all, just very interested to see if building these sites to sell could be worth doing.
 
Oh I see. Well, IMHO the answer would be yes. I think there is a market out there for people such as myself who know exactly where they want to be, have started down that road only to get stuck because their ambition is ahead of their skill level. In otherwords, we know just enough to be dangerous. :) Stuff like this is extremely frustrating and I would pay to skip over some of the headache. It's kind of along the lines of what I was talking about in this thread. Someone needs to market to the sophmores (which, by the way, means "wise fools" I believe, which about sums me up)
 
Oh I see. Well, IMHO the answer would be yes. I think there is a market out there for people such as myself who know exactly where they want to be, have started down that road only to get stuck because their ambition is ahead of their skill level. In otherwords, we know just enough to be dangerous. :) Stuff like this is extremely frustrating and I would pay to skip over some of the headache. It's kind of along the lines of what I was talking about in this thread. Someone needs to market to the sophmores (which, by the way, means "wise fools" I believe, which about sums me up)

(havent tried installing WPMU yet)
A better idea is to pay for the know-how. So if you need another one of those sites to know how to do it your self and anyway expanding your knowledge.

I have the same problem with the content point of websites. I know (or able to learn) how to build a site but I just cant (you know hands up, I quit) JUST CANT generate any content for my self. I am also reluctant to buy any articles. I just wish I could skip that part as you said :D
 
(havent tried installing WPMU yet)
A better idea is to pay for the know-how. So if you need another one of those sites to know how to do it your self and anyway expanding your knowledge.

I have the same problem with the content point of websites. I know (or able to learn) how to build a site but I just cant (you know hands up, I quit) JUST CANT generate any content for my self. I am also reluctant to buy any articles. I just wish I could skip that part as you said :D
I'm the opposite. I love designing and building the sites, but going out and posting on social sites, etc. etc. is kind of a black box, a mystery; not sure if I'm wasting my time, etc. But I've got a PR4 site so I'm doing something right.
 
I'm the opposite. I love designing and building the sites, but going out and posting on social sites, etc. etc. is kind of a black box, a mystery; not sure if I'm wasting my time, etc. But I've got a PR4 site so I'm doing something right.

I exactly know what you mean :D
And it's not only a black box but a boring procedure as well, except if you automate it ;)
 
I know (or able to learn) how to build a site but I just cant (you know hands up, I quit) JUST CANT

Don't EVER FUCKING say that bull shit. That may seem harsh but its true and take it to heart cause its the best free advice anyone will ever give you.

Back in the day I didn't know shit about shit, I didn't know how to build a site, I didn't know fuck all, back when I started we were still building sites with fucking notepad man, fucking notepad, learn that way without any real online help and tell me how hard things are. No real content management systems, no real database support, no real dynamic pages, just basic crap and thats where you've got to start out (The old saying you've got to walk before you can run does actually mean something).

These days you've got it easy to build a website, there is more free information on how to build a site then every before, HTML is the easier thing in the world to learn no matter what you experince.

If you have the ability to learn (Like all humans do) then you've got a chance to succeed. This is turning out to be a self-help post haha but let me talk about what I truly started with -------- NOTHING.

Thats right I started with $20,000 in debt with no job. Am I a success story fuck no not a chance in hell (Not yet anyway). I've also literally been 4 minutes away from collections but managed to dig down deep and stay clear but trust me not by much.

Now after a lot of hard work and not letting anyone tell me I can't do something (God knows not many people are brave enough to say it directly to me but its been implied more times then I care to mention) I'm finally almost completely out of debt and haven't had a regular job in almost 2 years. It also took me more then 3 years of learning and working my ass off before starting to see better returns.

So whats the point of this post? Well its not to say hey look at me I did it, its not to say you will do it but rather just to say that I personally hate it when people say they CANT do something.
 
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Much Respect Aequitas. I'll add my 2 cents to it just so as the soothe the guy who posted he can't.

Well, I used to come from a rich family when my granddad was screwed by his own brothers and we were reduced to whatever low we could. When my granddad passed away my dad was 10 or probably 11. As he grew up he took a job in a bank and still works there. After that not that we were poor, but we weren't rich either.

I, being 18 myself right now, was 13 back then when i started. Asked for
300 Indian Rupees, or about $8 from my dad to start a website on my town. That website came up and went down a few times, but triggered my readiness to embrace the web.

Today at age 18, am an internet marketing consultant, own a few large forums, work on many big projects and i can say i have a better life.

I am sure, you guys must've been thinking it was sheer luck that got me here. Well the answer is yes and no. Yes because I do believe in getting lucky, and No because I fell down many times in these 4 years. Until last year, i couldn't even call myself 'successful'

I have fallen and risen many times amidst these 4 years. It was the determination to "not lose" hope that gets you to be successful. There are times when you cry, when you feel aloof, when you even wish you hadn't wasted your life in this whole internet thing. But believe me, like the glamor world, the internet too has something for everyone. It depends on when and how you find it.

And to all the other guys participating in this thread, you have even my attention right now. I'll help out and guide in whatever way I can.

Anarkist
 
Don't EVER FUCKING say that bull shit. That may seem harsh but its true and take it to heart cause its the best free advice anyone will ever give you.

Hey Aequitas.

First of all I should say I fully respect you and learned things from your post.

However...

I think you misunderstood me and dont you think I am a lazy ass, complaining and crying about how life treats me. Not a fucking way, especially if you knew me personally. Although of all the negative stuff happening I keep going forward and I believe many people do the same.

After saying this, what I meant is that I fucking love programming. You are wrong about saying "every one is able to learn...". Not everyone is able to learn something if he/she doesnt have interest in it. I may spend 10hours to learn a freaking sentence in Spanish while someone else can do it in a minute. It takes me that long because I dont give a shit about learning that EVEN if I know I HAVE to learn it.

Programming and other technical stuff on the other hand I am able to learn much faster than other people that have less interest in. Never said I am a super programmer. Take it as you like.

Further more. When I said I cant generate content... Its not efficient to me to write a article about selling something if it takes me a whole day to make it half decent. So I guess that is called "I cant". Its not bad to identify your streangths and weaknesses and plan accordingly. Saying "I CANT" and finding an alternative root to the problem is not bad nor quitting.

That is why for my purpose I turned to programming to do that.

People have different strengths and weaknesses. It would be an utopia if everyone could do everything perfect. By saying DONT EVER SAY YOU CANT does not give you any real advantage if you really identify that you cannot do it that way. Do it fucking differently.

Anyway I hope you understand what I am talking about.

So whats the point of this post? Well its not to say hey look at me I did it, its not to say you will do it but rather just to say that I personally hate it when people say they CANT do something.
Life is not a movie man. I am sorry but its the truth. It is nice and inspiring to say "DONT SAY YOU CANT" but the reality is not like that. It's all about adjusting yourself into the situation and try for the best. I dont mean you dont have to try. Of course you need to try. Try with your hardest. Didnt make it? Try again and again. The results are not good??? Then do it differently using your strong skills. But dont just keep trying the same thing if you see that you are not good at it.

Life is not a movie man.
 
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I think you misunderstood me

Life is not a movie man.

Well now that its explained some more I did mis-understand your post I thought you were just saying fuck it I give up so I figured maybe a harder type of motivational talk was in line.

I do agree 100% that you have to identify your strengths and weaknesses that is an essencial part of any business, trying to do everything yourself will just get you bogged down and won't get you as far as you may like.

I will also say that you made a good point on the learning spanish example but I won't comment on that too much because I do fully understand where you are coming from, its just that I think differently then you do and it might come off as an argument of who is right and wrong when in reality both would be right or wrong depending on the type of person reading it.

I'm more of a philosopher when it comes to learning, I feel that I can learn anything (Given a certain amount of time), however wanting to learn something and actually learning something are truly different things.

Anyway I'm off to bed.

Oh and one more thing haven't you heard as of last week Life is like a movie. :D
 
On another note, Wickedfire pwns any other forum out there. Why? Because we don't sell people our knowledge, we impart it for free ....And whilst doing that teach others stuff that they didn't even know existed ...

Love the way how this thread is going and I am gonna contribute a heck lot now.

Cheers to everyone!
 
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