Microsoft Masters of Marketing



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RONK CHECKER
 
What part of what he said did you fail to understand?

The "They aren't freaking out. They aren't in trouble." - part. When a major corporation backtracks like this, that's them freaking out.

We can disagree on the failures of Windows back and forth all day, but a respected person such as yourself shouldn't try to lump in anything cpauser says as logic since he's been know to say stupid things within a majority of his past comments, like the freaking out comment.

As far as Window's contined failures, needing a 3rd party plugin to en-able the start menu, or make the thing work successfully - well wouldn't it make sense to just be able to disable "metro" or whatever it is called in the control panel? Why make customers jump through hoops to force an experience? Surely they've heard the feedback of this by now.
 
The "They aren't freaking out. They aren't in trouble." - part. When a major corporation backtracks like this, that's them freaking out.

I think he was referring to their financial situation and how insignificant XBox (add BING to that as well) is too their profits. Their bread n' butter is MS Office, Server & Tools and Windows.
 
I think the core point is the 24 hour thing.
As i first read it i thought its a kind of joke or missing information.

Its not only a brain dead idea its also not working in the real world.
Beside power and connection problems are hundred others.
And if it are the parents cutting the thing off for a week to give their childs some special "support" for better school.

I have even not every day my phone online when i take me a longer weekend.

Its a not working idea in the targeted market area and its also technically
flawed. And thats the core problem i have: Why in hell they try something like
that? Its something apple would like to do just they are to smart to do it.

If there is no bigger "meta" plan then they lost simply contact to earth.
And if you look at all the other small points they had to fix...
I don't believe in the rational points of the dev. So yes, its damage control.
They selfish added all the dreams to the xbox a game dev and company can
have to max money. Without thinking about the customers.

Microsoft owns a history of that behaviour. Thats one reason Microsoft is
never a company you will name in first place when it comes to trust. Even
nearly everyone is using a product of them.
 
The "They aren't freaking out. They aren't in trouble." - part. When a major corporation backtracks like this, that's them freaking out.

We can disagree on the failures of Windows back and forth all day, but a respected person such as yourself shouldn't try to lump in anything cpauser says as logic since he's been know to say stupid things within a majority of his past comments, like the freaking out comment.

As far as Window's contined failures, needing a 3rd party plugin to en-able the start menu, or make the thing work successfully - well wouldn't it make sense to just be able to disable "metro" or whatever it is called in the control panel? Why make customers jump through hoops to force an experience? Surely they've heard the feedback of this by now.

I want to agree that getting rid of the start menu and forcing people to use the "metro" interface was poorly thought out and that they should have been given the choice (or has been suggested here before, at least given better instructions), but I don't think it's that difficult to cope with the change. You can't make changes in how people behave if you just let them fall back to what they are used to. How are you ever going to evolve that way?

I think people have made it into a much bigger issue than it really is. It's just a big bandwagon freakout that never needed to happen. It takes like 10 minutes to familiarize yourself with the differences, and where to find things. Not much different from OS9 users coping with the changes in OSX, which were many IIRC.

I think he was referring to their financial situation and how insignificant XBox (add BING to that as well) is too their profits. Their bread n' butter is MS Office, Server & Tools and Windows.

Exactly. I normally wouldn't agree with much of anything cpauser says, but XBox makes up something like 10% of MS's revenues. They still rule the corporate world and will for the foreseeable future. I really don't think anyone is freaking out over there and is it really that hard to believe they might have learned something from the backlash they received?

It's like the GAP trying to roll out a new logo. It failed horrifically and they went back to the old one based on their customer's feedback. Big companies often do stupid things and they either learn from their mistakes and adapt or die.
 
It's like the GAP trying to roll out a new logo. It failed horrifically and they went back to the old one based on their customer's feedback.

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Jesus christ, what the fucking fuck is that thing? Gap sells software now?

Some designer somewhere probably masturbated all over his office about how avante garde that monstrosity was.
 
I want to agree that getting rid of the start menu and forcing people to use the "metro" interface was poorly thought out and that they should have been given the choice (or has been suggested here before, at least given better instructions), but I don't think it's that difficult to cope with the change. You can't make changes in how people behave if you just let them fall back to what they are used to. How are you ever going to evolve that way?

I think people have made it into a much bigger issue than it really is. It's just a big bandwagon freakout that never needed to happen. It takes like 10 minutes to familiarize yourself with the differences, and where to find things. Not much different from OS9 users coping with the changes in OSX, which were many IIRC.

It was the exact same thing when they introduced Win95. People went absolutely ape shit about the start menu. They put people in front of it and they couldn't figure out to press "start"

damn i'm getting old.
 
I'm not anti-change. But it had best be an improvement. I have windows 8 on every PC in my office... except for mine. I haven't found a reason to make me want to switch, and I've had a lot of time to play with it. Change for change's sake isn't progress, it's just a gimmick and a pain in the ass. They should have packaged this as a mobile interface from the get go. They know they half-assed it, maybe it was the best they could come up with but then why even bother? Wait til you have something that is worth releasing and then drop it on the world.
 
Dude this is the Era of marketing..
Packaging and marketing should be good, no matter what the product has to offer....
The success story of Microsoft lays on a similar platform ...