Making money with Google Adsense

[Blastyourass]

Great insight bits. Thanks for the input and analysis. I have a couple afilliate offers on my sites where I do well. But Adsense is solid and I can count on each click paying me something as opposed to hoping they complete a sale.

bowlcuta, I think it takes 1 year to start gain real footing and 2 years to become solid. Don't over think it, just think about good content and SEO.

Alright, it is Corona, Lime and Tequila time for this Friday evening, Cheers everyone!!!

 

[blogspotter]

Hi Moe.. Here e\is my story.

Content sites with good real contents are always better.
I have some content site.. Good ones and several shitty sites. Mini as you would call.

What I have seen is that it takes much more effort to maintain content sites.
While I was busy busting my ass to make 100K.. I see 180-20 year old kids doing millions.. They do it outside Google... facebookso far and media buys and PPV..

Which is when I thought I am leaving too much money on the table.
I have content sites with thousands of daily PVs.
And I see that several of the CPM advertisers are Acai and Colon cleanse pushers.
Now on niche sites, I have blocked the Niche advertisers but on general content sites, the ACAI advertisers seem to beat google hands down..

So I put ACAI banners on ,my site... I got no conversion.
Yet the CPM advertisers still targetted my site despite my increasing CPM..
That is when I copied a lander and pasted my own ACAI banner...

The ACAI banner gave me 4 times the current revenue..

Now of course, rebill will die soon, and FTC will crack down.. but the rebill buys would have made millions by then and they can agford to buy out content sites.

Longterm the affilate site might not work, but in the sort term if they are paying more than the future value of the long term content sites, what's the harm.. You get the drift right?

I never stop building content site though...

 

[ck256]

Geez. You people waste your time for pennies and scraps. If you want to open your eyes to '$100' then do so, I won't get up in the morning for less then a grand.

says the 6 post wonder . . where are the mods to kick all these new fuckers out . . .

 

[webetricky]

Nice thread. I have a couple questions...

You mentioned its good to find niches that pay a high cpc for ads. How do you know what google is going to pay you per click? Do you just look for high competition?

Also, any tips on finding good trends that will be worthwhile? Chasing hot topics seems like a major rat race to me. I see how it can be profitable though.

 

[erect]

Nice thread. I have a couple questions...

You mentioned its good to find niches that pay a high cpc for ads. How do you know what google is going to pay you per click? Do you just look for high competition?

Also, any tips on finding good trends that will be worthwhile? Chasing hot topics seems like a major rat race to me. I see how it can be profitable though.

adwords tool >> show all columns

CPC is surprisingly accurate compared to the volume estimates that google provides.

Just take the CPC and assume that google takes 60-70% of the estimated average cpc.

And yes, there is good, stable money through adsense still. I put a few accounts to good use.

 

[Andrew Scherer]

Geez. You people waste your time for pennies and scraps. If you want to open your eyes to '$100' then do so, I won't get up in the morning for less then a grand.

Go back to your "can you really make money blogging?" shithole

Jesus where do these dipshits come from

P.S. set your permalinks you grand-a-day dumbass

 

[justo_tx]

Geez. You people waste your time for pennies and scraps. If you want to open your eyes to '$100' then do so, I won't get up in the morning for less then a grand.

Go back to your "can you really make money blogging?" shithole

Jesus where do these dipshits come from

P.S. set your permalinks you grand-a-day dumbass

Did you read his About page? Pretty funny, SuperKC, values his privacy, which makes sense for a balla that doesn't get out of bed for anything less than a grand, but he doesn't value it enough to pay for private registration on his domain. SuperKC, aka Robert Hornback, also claims to have taken several companies public so it's a little surprising to see him slumming it on WF. So tell us Robert, which companies did you take public?

Can I change my February ban vote to that fucktard?

 

[Grindstone]

@ OP, nice thread and that's a proud site buildout, makes my 20 page "content sites" look like a spammy LP.

Couple things:

1. Adsense inside forum posts, they get clicked?
2. Adsense top left or top right, better ctr?
3. Damn d00d, if you're SE0ing that shit, make use of that page title real estate.

 

[Grindstone]

Go back to your "can you really make money blogging?" shithole

Jesus where do these dipshits come from

P.S. set your permalinks you grand-a-day dumbass

haha, but then he'd miss out on all those exact match /p=72 searches.

With post quality like this, it doesn't even matter.

Can You Really Make Money Blogging?

Wednesday, July 8th, 2009
There is no difference in being a columnist for a newspaper and being an at home blogger.

 

[ChinaSearchAds]

I think the question of Adsense vs. affiliate depends upon the niche, and here's why:

If your advertisers are affiliates, like you, than sure you can probably see what they are promoting and make more with an affiliate program.

But...some niches are not that well represented by affiliate programs, but rich with actual businesses advertising for themselves.

In my main niche - which is also financial - I could never hope to profit in an affiliate program by paying per click (my estimate from adsense clicks) what the actual companies can afford to pay.

But I do run SEO'd sites for an affiliate program. I have to say that I am never really convinced the affiliate program is paying better per impression that adsense. It sort of goes up and down.

That's really interesting. Perhaps over time affiliate sites will start to crowd out Adsense as the offers become better crafted for affiliate sites, however I should be less biased against Adsensers.

 

[phrench]

Did you read his About page? Pretty funny, SuperKC, values his privacy, which makes sense for a balla that doesn't get out of bed for anything less than a grand, but he doesn't value it enough to pay for private registration on his domain. SuperKC, aka Robert Hornback, ...

Pwned. Had to lol, such a stupid cunt

 

[yasirli]

$1600/month , my friend get $10000 /month from google adsense...it's not a little money, well i think it's not easy and fast, my friend need 1 year to "Seo" his site then just shit on his damn chair and wait for google check.

So it's interesting, the point is "just do it and don't wait" ...(until you get that money)...

 

[Blastyourass]

Blogspotter: What I have seen is that it takes much more effort to maintain content sites.

While I was busy busting my ass to make 100K.. I see 180-20 year old kids doing millions.. They do it outside Google... facebookso far and media buys and PPV..

There are several ways to make money online and yes, kids are making big time cash with these fly by night offers. I am married with 5 kids and I have bills to pay. The kids and I hope wife are not going anywhere and will need stability to have good lives. I am all about slow and steady (Just like when I make love) in doing my thang.

It is rather simple to study long term successful online entrepreneurs and find that most of them have super sites. Think Digg, Facebook, PlentyOfFish, AsktheBuilder etc. This is called online property that is built rock solid and can produce income better than just about any other investment out there.

Which is when I thought I am leaving too much money on the table.
I have content sites with thousands of daily PVs.
And I see that several of the CPM advertisers are Acai and Colon cleanse pushers.
Now on niche sites, I have blocked the Niche advertisers but on general content sites, the ACAI advertisers seem to beat google hands down..

Sure, but my experience is that you get burned on sales and conversions daily. I cant trust them to be honest. Trust is very important and I trust Google.

Long term the affiliate site might not work, but in the sort term if they are paying more than the future value of the long term content sites, what's the harm.. You get the drift right?

I don't know too many long term affiliate who make money off of just one website or 2. It appears that many go from offer to offer as one dies down. With Adsense, Google takes care of that.

webetricky: Nice thread. I have a couple questions...

Thanks bro.

You mentioned its good to find niches that pay a high cpc for ads. How do you know what google is going to pay you per click? Do you just look for high competition?

Erect knows his stuff. I look for niches that pay well and or are weak in competition.

Niches can be saturated has hell, but if they are all crap websites, then I am confident that I can build a better, stronger and more valuable site to take them over in the future. It is akin to being a marathon runner that no one sees practicing and working because they are too busy cashing their checks and looking at their shiny shoes. All of a sudden this unknown runner who just practiced, lived and died praticing passes them up just before the finish line and they lose the race.

Also, any tips on finding good trends that will be worthwhile? Chasing hot topics seems like a major rat race to me. I see how it can be profitable though.

There are many trends. It is all about self help websites, DIY, a green economy, divorce, debt help, credit repair etc. Chasing a hot topic is what most are not willing to do or wait for. Just depends if you have the patience and stamina to pursue these golden topics.

Andrew: Go back to your "can you really make money blogging?" shithole
Jesus where do these dipshits come from

P.S. set your permalinks you grand-a-day dumbass

Fricken comedy, SEO Blogging 101 #1: Change permalinks to /postname/. The first sign of a lying newbie is KC's blog with non SEO permalinks and that lame header that all the make monies online kids have.

Grindstone:

1. Adsense inside forum posts, they get clicked?

Hell yes! That is where I get most. These people are not internet marketers and mainly in their 35-55 range.

2. Adsense top left or top right, better ctr?

Top left as large as can be and at the end of each first post.

3. Damn d00d, if you're SE0ing that shit, make use of that page title real estate.

I am targeting news right now and am part of Google News. My home page is going after the news niche and some big players. However, I have made some mistakes and changed it a few times. I may just go back to Loans for SEO as my home page since my domain has loan in it and it is mostly a loan website. Yes, I do make mistakes and have grand illusions of beating big news players, but I need to think that out more.

For now, its is all long tail keywords.

yasirli: $1600/month , my friend get $10000 /month from google adsense...it's not a little money, well i think it's not easy and fast, my friend need 1 year to "Seo" his site then just shit on his damn chair and wait for google check.
So it's interesting, the point is "just do it and don't wait" ...(until you get that money)...

The facts are that not many people are willing to do that. If you know this and know most will give up, then that make it easier to stick with it and know that sooner or later, you will make it.

 

[Grindstone]

Moe, thanks for the open and honest response. As per the page title, I just meant pack some more longtail keywords up there, like: Mortgage News | Mortagage Industry News | etc....but, you obviously know what you're doing so that's just my opinion.

Thanks for the AS tips!

 

[Blastyourass]

My pleasure GS!

I think I may just go Loans, Debt & Credit - LoanSafe.org. I think I can rank it for the short tail "loans" and any combination of loan, credit and debt. I plan to make it the biggest loan site out there.

Imagine when the market (economy) turns and everyone is getting loans, credit and real estate again, my income will increase 10 fold then. There are no consumer centric websites like mine that tell the truth about banks and mortgages. Most are mortgage companeis or lead companies looking to capture lead data etc. This is an easy niche to win. Most people would say it is too cometitive, but I say it's not if your willing to go long term.

 

[Grindstone]

The thing I took away from your site, or the thing that stuck with me, is the 20k registered users. Even if google fucks your shit one day, they're not fucking with your traffic, and while replacing all that adsense with other monetization would be a nightmare chore, at the end of the day you're still sitting with lots of eyeballs in a niche that people will pay for leads. Much better situation than having offers and geting your traffic slapped.

And yeah, if you can rank for "Loans", by all means, get after it. I misunderstood your targeting longtails and having short tails in your page titles as something overlooked.

 

[erect]

The thing I took away from your site, or the thing that stuck with me, is the 20k registered users.

I walked away from his site seeing an outstanding back link portfolio, at least the top 200 sites were extremely diverse and even a manual review of them would not show any bought links ... some network sites, but very well themed. If that domain were 3-4 years older, you'd be owning the SERPs for some high dollar keywords.

Good seeing you posting more BYA, you're a true asset.

 

[guerilla]

The question is, why do people make great threads in Shooting the Shit, where most of the forum losers and trolls hang out?

If this thread was in a non-indexed area like the aff or traffic forums, some of us might contribute. But I don't check STS as much as I check the business forums, and I don't like to talk about ideas and strategy out in the open.

Some food for thought. Stuff like this should be moved, and that also keeps the wannabe baller fanboys away. I do not have enough neg rep for the crap that comes out of STS these days.

 

[Blastyourass]

Thanks so much Grindstone and erect!

Grind, Yes, I am getting 30-70 new members per day and growing with no end in site. I do not monetize my email lists or members out of respect for those that are economically struggling right now, but in the future I plan to. My goal is to help people with jobs, working from home and making money online.

If you think about it, my 26,000 plus members and hundreds of thousands of visitors are not only losing their homes, but jobs too. Hence, I have started a job/work from home website where I plan to help struggling folks on Main Street find legitimate opportunities to make money.

My motto is simple, "If an ex-convict who dropped out of school at 17 can do it, so can you!" hahaha.... Funny, but oh so true!!!!!!

erect, Yes, I have some great back links from the New York Times, LA Times and many other news agencies. Hot links to. I attribute that to not worrying about money and just helping people daily. Paying it forward has done a lot for me and my family. In addition, this brings links.

Thanks for the kind words and understanding that my BYA online persona is just to F around with people and have fun. Most all the guys and gals here are real and not internet fakes like you find on the WF or DP. I used to frequent the best Dive bars in So Cal where you always knew the regulars, bartenders and dancers who would have your back no matter how drunk and loud you got. This place is like that local dive bar with the most down and real people you will ever meet.

Wicked Fire is where I learned A LOT. To be honest, if I was to attribute any of my success to an online forum, it would be the WF. This place gave me ideas on what to do and what not to do. I got the idea for a forum from here and started my own VB forum because Jon was running the WF on VB.

Many old schoolers here challenged me and I even spoke with Jon on the phone and he told me to do it ALL on my own and that partnerships never work. Jon and I had it out quite a few times, but in the end, I have much respect for him and this forum. I have his back and all yours also. I guess this is my way of paying it forward to you all and the newbies looking for a real forum with real people.

Thanks for having my back. It's nice to be back and not just talk about loans and foreclosures all day.

 

[Blastyourass]

The question is, why do people make great threads in Shooting the Shit, where most of the forum losers and trolls hang out?

If this thread was in a non-indexed area like the aff or traffic forums, some of us might contribute. But I don't check STS as much as I check the business forums, and I don't like to talk about ideas and strategy out in the open.

Some food for thought. Stuff like this should be moved, and that also keeps the wannabe baller fanboys away. I do not have enough neg rep for the crap that comes out of STS these days.

I hear ya guerilla. I am not afraid of sharing my ideas in the open, because I have learned that most are not willing to do the long term things I do. But if I can open some people's minds to new ideas, then I have done my job with this thread.

To be honest, that is what made me sucessful. Giving my ideas and info away for free. Not too many people do that, but they should. I am sure it would pay off long term.

I want to build a career that I can retire on and not just a website.