I have read that they only attempt to do that if they think you are renouncing your citizenship just to avoid taxes.
Leaving America...
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I have read that they only attempt to do that if they think you are renouncing your citizenship just to avoid taxes.
I was actually kidding about the tax evasion shit... But, I didn't fucking know that the IRS still taxes your ass for 10 years after you escape... What the fuck is that bullshit, Alimony?
And jesus christ 71% is fucking nuts!
+Rep for telling me a few things that I didn't know, that actually changes a lot!
I'm with you man... There are some things I really love about America, but they are far outnumbered by the shit I can't fucking stand anymore...
Australia is a good place, I've heard a lot of good shit about it, and it has nearly everything I am looking for, but it also has a few things that have me wary... Such as the excess of the Government... One of the things I'd like to get away from.
Please tell me you are kidding... Just... Please...
Are the Swiss really such assholes?
Spain would be awesome. As far as spanish, I actually don't, but I have the basics and the 'tongue' for it, I could easily pick it up if I actually tried.
Very true.
+1... I'd like to hear this one too... Including Eastern Euro countries
I'm danish, and seriously don't move here. The taxes are crazy high (among the highest worldwide) and it's cold all the time.
I deal with 117 degree summers... I could use some cold... hahaha
Could you reiterate? Are you saying that I'm basically fucked, because I'm an American? :\ Tell me about it...
Granted I was only there for four or five days but in the area I was at they all seemed nice enough. Of course with the mega wealth in certain areas you have people who act like they were born with a better pot to piss in - but that applies to rich areas worldwide.
I found people in France [Mont Blanc] area to be pretty big assholes. Asked for directions a few times and got a lot of remarks like, "it's not that complicated", etc.
If you were going to move to Geneva, or southern Switzerland from what I understand, you would want to have a pretty firm grasp on French. I actually was pretty surprised how many people didn't speak English - I ended up just speaking French the whole week.
I am with the OP here. I am about done with the US, there just seems to be way to much shit going on. We have corporations forcing everything on us from the "music" that comes out to the "food" we eat. Our culture has destroyed itself, tuning us into Happy Meals. We have become unfriendly, fat, stupid, and easily controlled. Which while great for business is not great to live with.
If I was single I would have left by now but my girl friend is in grad school and will probably have to work here for a few years after she graduates to pay off her loans. Ive been trying to convince her that somewhere else could also pay off the loans but its to soon. The problem is that I have decided to shoot for a poorer country that will drop the cost of living down to nothing. So we will not have to work as hard just to enjoy life a bit.
Ive been shooting for south east asia, Thailand or Vietnam. But Singapore, Mexico, Belize, Honduras, and a few others have looked nice at times. I have said that I will need to visit the place at least 3 times before I figure to move there so this is going to take awhile. One of the best ways ive found for now to learn about the culture of a random country is Anthony Bourdain's - No Reservations on the travel channel. You get a bit of the food, people, culture, and history from each country he visits. Buy his books watch the show.
If I was single I would have left by now but my girl friend is in grad school and will probably have to work here for a few years after she graduates to pay off her loans. Ive been trying to convince her that somewhere else could also pay off the loans but its to soon. The problem is that I have decided to shoot for a poorer country that will drop the cost of living down to nothing. So we will not have to work as hard just to enjoy life a bit.
Ive been shooting for south east asia, Thailand or Vietnam. But Singapore, Mexico, Belize, Honduras, and a few others have looked nice at times. I have said that I will need to visit the place at least 3 times before I figure to move there so this is going to take awhile. One of the best ways ive found for now to learn about the culture of a random country is Anthony Bourdain's - No Reservations on the travel channel. You get a bit of the food, people, culture, and history from each country he visits. Buy his books watch the show.
Surprised no one has mentioned Italy. It is by far the coolest country in Europe. Like the other countries it's pretty corrupt but you get wonderful people, fabulous climate, great food, beauty and colour and light everywhere.
You do need to learn some of the language. Actually one of the guys on the language course I take is from Maine.
The south is very cheap especially for houses and apartments, but it's poor and a bit chaotic (just had a weekend in Naples - insane place): The middle and north of Italy is filled with incredible cities and beautiful countryside.
In Italy you're also very close to many other countries so you can easily tour around.
There's a small country called San Marino near the town where I live - might be worth checking that out.
Good luck.
Wez
You do need to learn some of the language. Actually one of the guys on the language course I take is from Maine.
The south is very cheap especially for houses and apartments, but it's poor and a bit chaotic (just had a weekend in Naples - insane place): The middle and north of Italy is filled with incredible cities and beautiful countryside.
In Italy you're also very close to many other countries so you can easily tour around.
There's a small country called San Marino near the town where I live - might be worth checking that out.
Good luck.
Wez
This. Unfortunately. I love France, the weather, the food, the girls, the language.
But they're getting into serious trouble more and more because of that, burning cars in Paris and shit like that.
I've also been reading up on what I need to do to leave the country, not because I want to leave Canada, simply because I want to see the world before I die.
I've found a lot of info from 2p2'ers in the travel forum (mostly young ballers doing what you're going to do) - 2p2- travel You can get a real good feel of places reading threads from people who 'been there, done that'.
I did some limited research on New-Zealand(a place I'm very much interested in) and from what I remember you can get citizenship if you work for 2 years (for the same business) or start your own and have it running for a little while.
Applies to Canadians only: For any Canadians wondering about the "Do I have to pay taxes if I leave the country", no you don't. Only for the last year you receive income in Canada do you have to pay taxes.
src. Leaving Canada (emigrants)
I've found a lot of info from 2p2'ers in the travel forum (mostly young ballers doing what you're going to do) - 2p2- travel You can get a real good feel of places reading threads from people who 'been there, done that'.
I did some limited research on New-Zealand(a place I'm very much interested in) and from what I remember you can get citizenship if you work for 2 years (for the same business) or start your own and have it running for a little while.
Applies to Canadians only: For any Canadians wondering about the "Do I have to pay taxes if I leave the country", no you don't. Only for the last year you receive income in Canada do you have to pay taxes.
src. Leaving Canada (emigrants)
Lol Ricardo, stop hating
That's because you're living in the countryside. Here in Zurich more than 30% don't have a Swiss passport and almost everybody speaks at least some basic English.
Though I wouldn't recommend Switzerland myself, I prefer countries with hot climate
Right.
Agencies per-default avoid US accounts. Additionally, your government taxes your worldwide income as a national citizen and keeps taxing you 10 years after resignation*.
*if resignation involves 'tax motives'. which, 99% of the time is the entire point. unless you legally prove otherwise through marriage structures etc. etc. but essentially everyone just does it in order to escape financial oppression.
I ain't american, but i pay 0 taxes. I've been on tourist visas in 40+ countries in the last 3 years. Because im never actually a resident anywhere, I don't have to pay taxes.
i just enter a country as a tourist, and pretty much stay until my time is up(usually 3-6 months) and move on.
I believe there are loopholes even if you are American to avoid taxes though, PM me if u wanna chat more
i just enter a country as a tourist, and pretty much stay until my time is up(usually 3-6 months) and move on.
I believe there are loopholes even if you are American to avoid taxes though, PM me if u wanna chat more
With completely asinine stuff like this going on
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/indiana-middle-school-sexting-82949612.html
I can kinda see why you want to leave.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/indiana-middle-school-sexting-82949612.html
I can kinda see why you want to leave.
I'd do it in a heartbeat but it's hard when you have a wife and kids who want to stay here, family here, etc.
You have to remember that Europe is currently being invaded by illiterate, analphabetic and uneducated immigrants from MENA countries. So the anti-foreign attitude is common. If you are white you should be fine. But just in case.. say that you are canadian.
Of those 5, Sweden is probably the easiest country to move to as an american since all swedes speak english very well. High taxes though.. and cold. But the chicks make up for it. And don't expect to get a job before you have mastered swedish.
If i were you though, i would move to southeast Asia. Or to a resort along the mediterranean.