Is it true there is a plan to build a mosque complex next to ground zero?
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Who said there weren't any secular Muslims? We were talking about Muslims that pray 5 times a day, fast in Ramadhan and embrace sexism. Were any of these people outraged? I'm talking Saudi's, Palestinians, Afghanis etc
Not, muslims that received a western education, live in a secular country, and believe in the freedom of speech.
right?
just sayin'
Not, muslims that received a western education, live in a secular country, and believe in the freedom of speech.
right?
just sayin'
yeah, much better to skim over it without actually reading the words, then comment like you know what the fuck you are talking about when you really don't have a fucking clue. keep hating if it really makes you feel better though.
just sayin'
just sayin'
Dear God. I didn't hear any of those. I guess I should have been more descriptive in my post. I'm not some idiot that doesn't think anyone could easily find pro-(terrorist)muslim propaganda in Google.
Say anything negative about muslims and the left wing WF gestapo comes out swinging....
Brave new world we live in.
Say anything negative about muslims and the left wing WF gestapo comes out swinging....
Brave new world we live in.
sorry, my fault. forgot you only listen to fox news. you're right, you won't hear any of that on there
is it gestapo to actually prove you wrong? I merely posted a shit ton of links that show that there are many muslims from all over the world that condemn terrorism.
why are you so defensive when you are presented with people who condemn terrorism? it's almost as if you enjoy having someone to bash
is it gestapo to actually prove you wrong? I merely posted a shit ton of links that show that there are many muslims from all over the world that condemn terrorism.
why are you so defensive when you are presented with people who condemn terrorism? it's almost as if you enjoy having someone to bash
You're so mental is crazy. This is your "rational" refutation to total evidence to teh contrary of what you just said?
You also are really into these silly names like "left wing" this and "liberal that" - can you wonder why people rush to call themselves liberal when what you represent is what the common person considers "conservative"?
....and before you go all ranting a good friend of mine is on the RNC national council (does it get more "conservative") and he wouldn't condone anything you say.
That's the problem with our country these days. There just aren't enough rational and sane conservatives out there - they are all being snuffed out by the crackpots [insert your name].
My best in the world is as conservative as they come in many respects - death penalty, gun rights, school vouchers (more like supports private school)....the list goes on....
But you social conservatives shoot sensible fiscal conservative arguments in the face when you start foaming at the mouth with your bigotry
I'm not so senseless as to lump all conservatives in your camp, but gosh you don't make it easy.
That's why William F Buckley said:
"I've spent my entire life separating the right from the kooks"
Really?
Not sure why you're attacking me with your fabrications. Is the left really getting this desperate that all you have left in your arsenal are personal attacks based on assumptions and generalities?
Conservatism must be winning.
Didn't even read your post but this part did stand out when scanning the page.
You really shouldn't make generalizations about people you know nothing about.
what attacks? what fabrications? I came back at you with evidence. seems you are very defensive. not sure why.
Saying I get all of my news from FOX. So I guess that means you suck at the nipple of Olberman.
wrong
Olberman doesn't have nipples... just the skin flap covering his robot partz
Oh look. Another useful idiot got a head full of CAIR propaganda.
Links back atcha.
Hell, I even have a song about this CAIR:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9oX5Q2ftmA"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
from Council on American-Islamic Relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
CAIR Founded by "Islamic Terrorists"? :: Daniel Pipes
An interesting idea of "American-Islamic" relations!
Who gives a shit if CAIR denounces the S11 attacks? They're basically an Islamist PR company, what they do is similar to PR companies and bullshit scientists the tobacco companies used to hire to tell people there is no proven link between cigarettes and cancer in the '60s. Their message just happens to be that there is no proven link between Islam and terrorism, so long as it suits them. They're probably a bigger threat to the US than Al Qaeda is these days. With their constant suing of anyone who dares critisize Islam and the bullshit propaganda.
The main problem with Islamists in the long run isn't the terrorism, its the attitude displayed above - Muslims are above all others, Muslims must be apart from others, Islam is above all else and they must fight on by any means necessary until the flag of Islam flies over the whole world. So there is disagreement amongst different school as to HOW this must be achieved. Whether right now is a time for offensive Jihad, whether it is permissible to attack civilian targets, whether a Caliphate is necessary, but so what. The goal is the same. Whether its by forcing people to convert at gunpoint/knifepoint or through what in Europe they call 'the womb Jihad', the goal is the same. Sharia for all. And they know time is on their side.
It took 9 years for them to finally start construction on a replacement complex for the WTC, so I doubt very much there is a mosque in the cards. They couldn't even get a 7-11 built.
It would be more important for people to perhaps be sensitive to Americans' feelings about 9/11 and radical Islamic extremists and maybe understand that building a symbol of a religion whose twisted adherents murdered 3,000 Americans right on the site of said murder MAYBE isn't the brightest idea.
It's interesting how quick many are to insinuate Americans are bigoted and racist when they object to a mosque being built upon sacred ground. Clearly the owners of the proposed mosque aren't terrorists(I'm assuming), but then again when 3,000 of your fellow citizens were slaughtered by twisted adherents of a particular religion, certain New Yorkers might not be in the mood to appreciate your exquisite nuance.
Just understand most New Yorkers are pretty bitter about what happened and try not to inflame them. It doesn't mean you can't build mosques anywhere, but damn, do these people have any respect for New Yorkers feelings? I would think that whomever is behind the plans to build the mosque would be culturally sensitive enough to know that Ground Zero might not be the best spot.
The fact that people might draw this connection and the mosque planners went ahead anyways KNOWING the controversy it would cause is the suspect part. There's thousands of places to build a mosque, and the fact that they intentionally chose that spot just doesn't sit right with a lot of people.
As for the list somebody posted of supposed Muslim grief over 9/11, I'm not sure where you dug that up from since it was never displayed in any mainstream medium: television, radio, newspaper, whatever. It's awesome that you could actually find that list, but it doesn't mean anything if those people didn't have the balls to go on a national stage and make a stand.
It's interesting how quick many are to insinuate Americans are bigoted and racist when they object to a mosque being built upon sacred ground. Clearly the owners of the proposed mosque aren't terrorists(I'm assuming), but then again when 3,000 of your fellow citizens were slaughtered by twisted adherents of a particular religion, certain New Yorkers might not be in the mood to appreciate your exquisite nuance.
Just understand most New Yorkers are pretty bitter about what happened and try not to inflame them. It doesn't mean you can't build mosques anywhere, but damn, do these people have any respect for New Yorkers feelings? I would think that whomever is behind the plans to build the mosque would be culturally sensitive enough to know that Ground Zero might not be the best spot.
The fact that people might draw this connection and the mosque planners went ahead anyways KNOWING the controversy it would cause is the suspect part. There's thousands of places to build a mosque, and the fact that they intentionally chose that spot just doesn't sit right with a lot of people.
As for the list somebody posted of supposed Muslim grief over 9/11, I'm not sure where you dug that up from since it was never displayed in any mainstream medium: television, radio, newspaper, whatever. It's awesome that you could actually find that list, but it doesn't mean anything if those people didn't have the balls to go on a national stage and make a stand.
I would say over the years muslims have gotten and are still getting screwed
Human Rights Watch: Israel: White Phosphorus Use Evidence of War Crimes (VIDEO)
And of course how can we forget who is supporting a government that does this BBC News - US to fund installation of Israeli rocket defence system
Human Rights Watch: Israel: White Phosphorus Use Evidence of War Crimes (VIDEO)
And of course how can we forget who is supporting a government that does this BBC News - US to fund installation of Israeli rocket defence system
THIS IS A FUCKING OUTRAGE!!!
Where are they going to put the Bush/Cheney mid-air high-five monument!?
Where are they going to put the Bush/Cheney mid-air high-five monument!?