Is it me or are my work mates fucked?

Look these idiots on Facebook all day, all they do is complain, and all I do is win...

I'm also surprised to hear how many people in the world WF are about buying houses, burying themselves with a mortgage and marrying.

Reminds me of this article/video: Where have all the entrepreneurs gone? Where Have All the U.S. Entrepreneurs Gone? - Businessweek

Also, "financial security" is something you create from acquiring assets. Real assets that you OWN (in other words, not a house on borrowed money. The bank owns that).

I usually spend time in WF because it's one of the few places on the internet generally free of whiny employees. Facebook being the exact opposite...unless you're lucky enough to have lots of firiends that are also entrepreneurs.

OP: You're the smart one. In 4-years when you're raking in passive income on a beach in Thailand and you're friends are celebrating their last student loan payment you'll never regret going solo.
 


I'm also surprised to hear how many people in the world WF are about buying houses, burying themselves with a mortgage and marrying.

Reminds me of this article/video: Where have all the entrepreneurs gone? Where Have All the U.S. Entrepreneurs Gone? - Businessweek

Also, "financial security" is something you create from acquiring assets. Real assets that you OWN (in other words, not a house on borrowed money. The bank owns that).

I usually spend time in WF because it's one of the few places on the internet generally free of whiny employees. Facebook being the exact opposite...unless you're lucky enough to have lots of firiends that are also entrepreneurs.

OP: You're the smart one. In 4-years when you're raking in passive income on a beach in Thailand and you're friends are celebrating their last student loan payment you'll never regret going solo.

The house you live in is free from capital gains tax here in the UK, so by buying a house at what's probably the cheapest debt you can ever get in your life in an upcoming area you can make gains in wealth free of tax.

Buying a house/taking out a mortgage does not mean that someone is not an entrepreneur. In fact I'd argue that people are stupid to buy houses with cash. Here you can take out a mortgage with something like 3% interest. If you can't make a bigger return on your investment than that doing what you're good at then you're doing something wrong.
 
The house you live in is free from capital gains tax here in the UK, so by buying a house at what's probably the cheapest debt you can ever get in your life in an upcoming area you can make gains in wealth free of tax.

Buying a house/taking out a mortgage does not mean that someone is not an entrepreneur. In fact I'd argue that people are stupid to buy houses with cash. Here you can take out a mortgage with something like 3% interest. If you can't make a bigger return on your investment than that doing what you're good at then you're doing something wrong.

I'd rather gain 1% than pay 3%. Everyone with the pay this debt for the rest of their lives... oh lord, the Rothschild Family would be proud.

"I don't pay interest, I collect it."
 
The American Dream is NOT about getting a house, car, wife, 2.5 kids, and white picket fence. It's about being able to want something, put the drive and energy behind it, and achieve it, PERIOD. Having the ability to do anything you want, is a true goal.

Good luck bro.

I used my first like on this lol.
 
So I should have said, I have a gf and been with her for 6 years. She is really pretty n not in my eyes but everyone who meets her. She likes me being interested in my business, she is conservative herself like my friends and wants to buy the house, but she is fine with me not having any interest in buying the house myself. She reckons I would either make it big time like talking millions or I would be dead broke in time. She is a marketer herself n pushes me to do it when I have a great idea.

Another thing for me is that I have few degrees and a masters so if nothing works then I can rely n fallback on that.
 
So I should have said, I have a gf and been with her for 6 years. She is really pretty n not in my eyes but everyone who meets her. She likes me being interested in my business, she is conservative herself like my friends and wants to buy the house, but she is fine with me not having any interest in buying the house myself. She reckons I would either make it big time like talking millions or I would be dead broke in time. She is a marketer herself n pushes me to do it when I have a great idea.

Another thing for me is that I have few degrees and a masters so if nothing works then I can rely n fallback on that.
With grammar like that, I find it highly unlikely you made it halfway through your junior year of high school.
 
Why are you worried about what other people think or do?

You're an individual... be one! Only sheeple care about what others think!

I own a house, have a wife and a kid, just spent a shit load of money puuting in a pool and landscaping my back yard so we can enjoy it... and I love my life...

Find your own path and fuck everyone else!
 
With grammar like that, I find it highly unlikely you made it halfway through your junior year of high school.

Lol, yeah my grammar is not the best but I am typing all this from my iPhone. So trying to keep things short and I am not writing a thesis or rechecking for spelling and grammar.
 
I'd rather gain 1% than pay 3%. Everyone with the pay this debt for the rest of their lives... oh lord, the Rothschild Family would be proud.

"I don't pay interest, I collect it."

So you think there's no circumstances people should take on debt?

I'll more than happily take on a mortgage at 3% when I believe the property is going to appreciate in value, that I have somewhere to live, can pay less than what I would in rent and know that not buying the property in cash upfront means I have another $xxx,xxx to invest in my other (greater than 3%) profit making businesses.

A mortgage makes sense if you can generate a return greater than 3% on your investment by putting the money you would have locked up in the house into other things.

The problem is people that take on mortgages on the verge of what they can afford, living paycheck to paycheck to pay off their mortgage.
 
Update : just spoke to a business guy who is on the rich list over here. He said, he was like me and his friends were the opposite. He said his friends now own 1-2 average houses whereas he owns several multi million dollar properties all over the world. he was broke until he was 30 and risked everything but now he has everything. He was very impressed with how I was thinking. He went onto say, you will only live once. You can always get a job but can't always take big risks. So do it now.
 
I like these threads and the contributions. It's good to hear from other people thinking the same way. Focus on using your money to make more money. Your friends might not regret it now, but will in 5-10 years.


But to the people talking about finding a girl/potential wife:

What is up with this mentality that if you don't find a wife by 30, all the good ones are gone? That's really not the case. It sounds more like a scarcity mindset.

If your looking for your future wife in the bar, it probably isn't the best strategy (there are some rare exceptions obviously).

Every time I've been serious about finding a new girlfriend, it has taken me about 3 months to meet new girls, get to know quite a few, and pick which one I was into the most. I'm not focused on getting a girlfriend right now since business is keeping me busy, but I know when I am it will be pretty easy to find a good one (if you want to buy my step-by-step eBook, PM me).

Don't let what your friends are doing peer pressure you into making poor financial and life decisions.
 
So you think there's no circumstances people should take on debt?

I'll more than happily take on a mortgage at 3% when I believe the property is going to appreciate in value, that I have somewhere to live, can pay less than what I would in rent and know that not buying the property in cash upfront means I have another $xxx,xxx to invest in my other (greater than 3%) profit making businesses.

A mortgage makes sense if you can generate a return greater than 3% on your investment by putting the money you would have locked up in the house into other things.

The problem is people that take on mortgages on the verge of what they can afford, living paycheck to paycheck to pay off their mortgage.

There are several instances where taking on debt makes sense. For me, it doesn't make sense to take on debt to find a house to live in, when I'm on entrepreneurial mode, and I spend most of my time flying around the world getting things done.

If I have a great business idea, I'll take on that debt all day and night, because the end goal of my business it TO MAKE MONEY. The end goal of your house, IS NOT TO MAKE MONEY. It's to "One day, I may sell it, and it will appreciate (hopefully)."

It's one thing to spend money on shit that makes you money, and increases your overall assets, since you actually have ROI. A house has no ROI, it's only value will be ONCE and IF you sell your house. You're NOT MAKING MORE MONEY buy living in your house, maybe if you rented it, it would make sense, but if you are living in it - don't come in with this dream that you have this great asset. A house is a fucking house, One tornado comes through, you have fucking nothing. A business can have intellectual property, recurring revenue, royalty checks, it has customers, it has clients, it has multiple dimensions that GENERATE MONEY. Your house DOES NOT GENERATE MONEY, it sits there, being prettied up by you, so "one day" you "may or may not sell it".

Investing in MONEY coming in, not money, sitting there doing nothing. There is a perceived value of a house, and then there is actual value in money coming into a business. Money coming in, is more valuable then, oh this house is going to be worth something to someone one day, that's a higher value than I put in. Buying a house with that mentality, you've just created debt, that mean you have, in accounting terms, increased your "lost opportunity cost". That money you spend on painting and shit making your house pretty, you could have spend it on a new employee who will generate X amount of more dollars for you.

Explain to me how doing what everyone else is doing , is possibly going to make sense? How is following all the retards doing the same shit over and over make any sense? The mortgage and bankers have brainwashed you to thinking it's okay to take on debt that doesn't generate you income. They sold you a dream, that by somehow being chained for the next 30 years to a mortgage is a DREAM, and the RIGHT THING TO DO. I can tell you that you've been lied to, anyone that knows me offline knows what I do, I'm a partner in a commercial bank, and marketing agency - you people have been so fooled into thinking some of the craziest shit it's un-canny. Does it really make sense to pay SOMEONE ELSE for the rest of your left for a luxury item? Does it really make sense? Wouldn't it make sense, that people pay YOU for the rest of their life on a luxury item? Which side of the fence do you want to be on, with the crowd of sheep or the people getting paid from the crowd of sheep?

I'm going to leave you with a quote that had me laughing my ass off, but it stuck to me to the core when I read it, it's not for everyone's taste:

I remember when I used to live in a shitty house, waste my time with children and shit.

Now I just count money all day.

Good luck bros!
 
YOLOL

You kiddies realize you're GOING TO DIE.

So while you can, LIVE.

Stop worrying so fucking much about the future (but don't ignore it totally), and live more in the moment. Smell the flowers. Buy the house. Grab the girl. Pay the car loan on the fine German iron. Love and laugh.

But do it now, not when you're 60 something. You can always make more monies.

Can't make more time, so find the right balance.

'Cause Your Gonna Fuckin DIE.