Is a "college education" a human right?
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"Rights" can be put into 2 broad categories; positive rights, and negative rights.
Positive rights are rights that require another person to do something to be fulfilled.
Negative rights are rights that simply require another person not take a certain action that would violate you.
I have never heard of a positive right that did not violate another persons basic right to self ownership. When you come up with a way to provide education to everyone without violating anyone elses rights then we can talk about appending it to the otherwise brief list of human rights.
Positive rights are rights that require another person to do something to be fulfilled.
Negative rights are rights that simply require another person not take a certain action that would violate you.
I have never heard of a positive right that did not violate another persons basic right to self ownership. When you come up with a way to provide education to everyone without violating anyone elses rights then we can talk about appending it to the otherwise brief list of human rights.
They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
Not sure what they're on about not having the "original mortgage," but the point is, the house was never yours. It belongs to the bank and they are letting you live there for paying off the mortgage the bank gave you to live there. It's not yours and yes they can take it from you.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
Blame the government and not the "1%" in Wall St. If we let these banks fail there wouldn't be a reason for the bail outs. Sadly, your solution to the problem is to give the government even more power?
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one's skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
Yeah, by giving minorities preferential hiring over whites?
Proof to these allegations?
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
Never heard of this before. Feel free to buy any organically grown/local food from your nearest store. It's more expensive? That's what "real" food costs.
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless nonhuman animals, and actively hide these practices.
Environmentalist babble. "Nonhuman animals" lol. What does this have to do with an anti-establishment demonstration anyway? Seems kind of off message.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
More like, sought more freedom from intimidation and work shortages organized by union thugs.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
Discussed in this thread.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
See the union point. Also see government regulations that make it difficult and costly to hire American workers.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
A corporation is a group of people. You want to take away the rights from people?
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
Okay, I agree with you on this.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
There are laws against it. Don't put stuff on facebook you don't want sharing with stranges. (common sense)
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.
Proof?
They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
Sure, there are assholes of all kinds.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
"And this is why we need to re-elect Obama in 2012!"
They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them.
Not against the law. If the politicians are corrupt that's another story.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
Proof?
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit.
Proof?
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
Sure, agreed.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
Ignorant statement considering the media is mostly sensationalized and very left wing.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
Okay, maybe, maybe not. I'd like to see some proof.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad.
"A shout-out to our Mexican supporters with a nonsensical statment!"
They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
"So give the government more power to stop this!"
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *
Military industrial complex sucks.
Not sure what they're on about not having the "original mortgage," but the point is, the house was never yours. It belongs to the bank and they are letting you live there for paying off the mortgage the bank gave you to live there. It's not yours and yes they can take it from you.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
Blame the government and not the "1%" in Wall St. If we let these banks fail there wouldn't be a reason for the bail outs. Sadly, your solution to the problem is to give the government even more power?
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one's skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
Yeah, by giving minorities preferential hiring over whites?
Proof to these allegations?
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
Never heard of this before. Feel free to buy any organically grown/local food from your nearest store. It's more expensive? That's what "real" food costs.
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless nonhuman animals, and actively hide these practices.
Environmentalist babble. "Nonhuman animals" lol. What does this have to do with an anti-establishment demonstration anyway? Seems kind of off message.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
More like, sought more freedom from intimidation and work shortages organized by union thugs.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
Discussed in this thread.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
See the union point. Also see government regulations that make it difficult and costly to hire American workers.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
A corporation is a group of people. You want to take away the rights from people?
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
Okay, I agree with you on this.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
There are laws against it. Don't put stuff on facebook you don't want sharing with stranges. (common sense)
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.
Proof?
They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
Sure, there are assholes of all kinds.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
"And this is why we need to re-elect Obama in 2012!"
They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them.
Not against the law. If the politicians are corrupt that's another story.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
Proof?
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit.
Proof?
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
Sure, agreed.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
Ignorant statement considering the media is mostly sensationalized and very left wing.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
Okay, maybe, maybe not. I'd like to see some proof.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad.
"A shout-out to our Mexican supporters with a nonsensical statment!"
They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
"So give the government more power to stop this!"
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *
Military industrial complex sucks.
1) That's not how supply and demand work
2) The reason that the cost of a college education has outpaced inflation by such a phenomenal rate is a bit more complex than supply and demand.
