Investing/Buying Established Websites

That's true, but I've never planned on enforcing the non-compete. It's only to dissuade sellers from cloning the site and switching out all the backlinks they control to their new site. I doubt I would ever actually go to court on it because it's too much of a headache, but just having one in place can do the trick most of the time.

just an idea but wouldn't it be fairly easy to just send contexual traffic to the site to boost its apparent visitors significantly (and inexpensively) and then to stop after selling the site?

even if had GA access I don't know if I would trust stuff.
 


just an idea but wouldn't it be fairly easy to just send contexual traffic to the site to boost its apparent visitors significantly (and inexpensively) and then to stop after selling the site?

even if had GA access I don't know if I would trust stuff.

Just check the referral data and SERPs for their keywords.
 
just an idea but wouldn't it be fairly easy to just send contexual traffic to the site to boost its apparent visitors significantly (and inexpensively) and then to stop after selling the site?

even if had GA access I don't know if I would trust stuff.

The buyers will see the jump in traffic because it will be dramatic. Someone looking to buy in the $xx,xxx range and up will immediately look at the referrers and SERP's as stated above.
 
Just check the referral data and SERPs for their keywords.

regarding serps, if you are trying to sell there is a bunch of shit you can do to get a temp boost, obviously this will be revealed in the link profile but there might be a lag.


regarding referral data i'm thinking it would look like direct traffic. But even if not, there are so many ways to fake this that come my brain in like 5 seconds I'm amazed I never hear about people getting fucked over on fake stats. then again, most of this crap is probably more prevalent on cheaper sites. Kinda like pouring shit in the engine of a shitty car to make it temporarily run better. you arent doing that on a bmw.
 
regarding serps, if you are trying to sell there is a bunch of shit you can do to get a temp boost, obviously this will be revealed in the link profile but there might be a lag.


regarding referral data i'm thinking it would look like direct traffic. But even if not, there are so many ways to fake this that come my brain in like 5 seconds I'm amazed I never hear about people getting fucked over on fake stats. then again, most of this crap is probably more prevalent on cheaper sites. Kinda like pouring shit in the engine of a shitty car to make it temporarily run better. you arent doing that on a bmw.

Sure for newer sites but we are talking about established sites with history. Anyone with a decent sized site that is making $$$ is going to have analytics that you can review the traffic history. Also, you'll want to check with Archive.org for a timeline of the site and the different changes it has made.
 
I've sold an affiliate site for $xxxk after being contacted directly and asked if I'd consider an offer. Previous to that I had no real desire to sell, hadn't crossed my mind. The buyer got a decent package and I got a decent price, this sale would never have occured using a site marketplace.

From a buying point of view (medium to high value):
Pick a niche you know and like, research the top keywords for said niche and start making a list of potential sites on pages 1 and 2 you think may sell. You need to be interested in the business, don't buy purely on $$$, it will dwindle away.

Sites with outdated designs are obvious targets.

Sites with good ranking subpages for decent keywords usually show the site is in a good standing and easily expandable.

Aged sites with a good solid search engine presence won't need much work to maintain the rankings, nothing urgent anyway.

Sites that you know you can instantly improve the income for. It's no good buying a site and having no idea how to improve it overnight.

Don't pay more than 3x annual profit unless the domain is gold or the historical branding is gold, I know some sites go for more but finding one that's actually worth it and for sale is nigh on impossible. Personally I'd want to get in the black as quick as possible instead of several years down the line. Buy for 3x, get your money back in 2x or less, decent.

Only pay 2-3x+ for sites with at least 3 years of consistent and/or growing revenue. Much of a site's value is created from its history. Check out the industry as a whole too, look for any pending regulations/laws that may harm you.

Once you have the owner's confidence (NDA etc) either request access to the affiliate/sales accounts where possible or request accounting records, screenshots and so on. Get access to traffic stats and make sure they're legit.

Research the link profiles, find out about any existing link sales, any agreements with other sites, any agreements the owner has on a personal level with anyone involved (special % deals, customers etc).

Always use Escrow.com as previously mentioned.

For bigger buys, speak to the owner on the phone or at least find out as much as you can about them - who, why sell, what else they do. Try and get a sense of their honesty/desperation, it goes a long way when deciding whether to deal with them.

For very big buys you will need legal support, a contract detailing every aspect of the business, get out clauses, cooling off periods and general stuff only a lawyer can advise on is a very good idea and the expense is nothing compared to the potential outlay.

A non-compete while nice in theory isn't such a big deal in most cases, if the site you're buying has solid history and a status only time and money can achieve then some new clone won't harm you. If they have a mailing list and customer connections then that's a different story, rules need to be in place there.


That's off the top of my head from my previous experiences, I'm a little tired but I believe it's all pretty accurate :)
 
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...regarding referral data i'm thinking it would look like direct traffic. But even if not, there are so many ways to fake this that come my brain in like 5 seconds I'm amazed I never hear about people getting fucked over on fake stats.

You're right - it does show up as direct traffic. As a buyer though, you're gonna have to ask yourself why in the world would a site be getting 85% of its traffic directly. But yes, buyers get screwed on fake stats (screenshots, or just traffic manipulation) all the time. Part of the due diligence process, but it happens a lot more with cheaper sites because you have less sophisticated buyers.