Immortality Through Technology

Andrew Scherer

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Thinking about this in the car yesterday. What is the possibility that this happens within our lifetime?

Transforming a human into a cyborg can include brain implants or extracting a human mind and placing it in a robotic life-support system. Even replacing biological organs with robotic ones could increase life span (i.e., pace makers) and depending on the definition, many technological upgrades to the body, like genetic modifications or the addition of nanobots would qualify an individual as a cyborg. Such modifications would make one impervious to aging and disease and theoretically immortal unless killed or destroyed.
 


I don't think immortality is coming anytime soon, but 200+ year lifespans shouldn't be more than 100 years away at the current rate of technology. Pretty scary, and not exciting at all, if you ask me.
 
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We are very very close. Look up technological singularity if you want to read more about it, and I think an indefinite lifespan (the eradication of natural causes of death) is a very realistic goal for most people born after 1980.

It is where a lot of my motivation to do be involved in artificial intelligence comes from. I can't wait, the future is going to be amazing.
 
I think an indefinite lifespan (the eradication of natural causes of death) is a very realistic goal for most people born after 1980.

Damn really? I didn't think that would be a realistic goal in our lifetime.

That's pretty crazy to think about. Even if you did have the money to make it happen that would be such a weird decision to make...
 
Damn really? I didn't think that would be a realistic goal in our lifetime.

That's pretty crazy to think about. Even if you did have the money to make it happen that would be such a weird decision to make...

Prepare to have your mind blown.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iYpxRXlboQ]Aubrey de Grey: A roadmap to end aging - YouTube[/ame]
 
I was very bullish on technoimmortality until the day I understood that the governments of the world don't like their farm animals to grow brains.

You HAVE TO overthrow all world governments first, period.

Then the cure to cancer, decent schooling, technoimmortality, and a thousand other beneficial technologies will be released without the state holding them away from you.
 
Damn really? I didn't think that would be a realistic goal in our lifetime.

That's pretty crazy to think about. Even if you did have the money to make it happen that would be such a weird decision to make...

I assume people in our generation (< 35 or so years old) will have a significantly longer life span than all previous generations because of medical advances, so there might be more time to work with than the typical 75 or so years of expected human life currently.

I was very bullish on technoimmortality until the day I understood that the governments of the world don't like their farm animals to grow brains.

You HAVE TO overthrow all world governments first, period.

Then the cure to cancer, decent schooling, technoimmortality, and a thousand other beneficial technologies will be released without the state holding them away from you.

I'm interested in hearing about any world or society changing technological advances that were invented in a government-less society at any point in history that backup this assertion of yours...GO!
 
We are very very close. Look up technological singularity if you want to read more about it, and I think an indefinite lifespan (the eradication of natural causes of death) is a very realistic goal for most people born after 1980.

It is where a lot of my motivation to do be involved in artificial intelligence comes from. I can't wait, the future is going to be amazing.

100% agree we're going to see some cool shit if we dont blow our selves up first

Ray Kurzweil: A university for the coming singularity | Video on TED.com

Singularity University | Solving Humanity's Grand Challenges
 
Damn really? I didn't think that would be a realistic goal in our lifetime.

That's pretty crazy to think about. Even if you did have the money to make it happen that would be such a weird decision to make...
It isn't a certainty, but it is very realistic. I think our generation will likely be right on the edge.

Steve Jobs put it really well:
"I'm either going to be one of the first to be able to outrun cancer like this, or I'm going to be one of the last to die from it. Either among the first to make it to shore, or the last to get dumped."

Advances in biotechnology and nanotechnology will help extend lifespans a lot, so that we have more time to work with. Also, it is projected (mostly a continuation of Moore's Law) that a $1,000 computer will have the computational power of a human brain by around 2030. It will take longer for the software to be equally as smart, but there will be a huge revolution in medical advances once this happens.

It's far from certain, but I'm very optimistic for the future.

I was very bullish on technoimmortality until the day I understood that the governments of the world don't like their farm animals to grow brains.

You HAVE TO overthrow all world governments first, period.

Then the cure to cancer, decent schooling, technoimmortality, and a thousand other beneficial technologies will be released without the state holding them away from you.
I do not think this opinion is centered around any facts or logic.

Overpopulation? Never evolving?
Almost all human evolution in the past several centuries has not been biological, but has been cultural. Why is biological evolution inherently better than artificial evolution through the utilization of technology?

Regarding overpopulation, I see your argument as having all the same shortfalls that Malthus' similar argument had 200 years ago.
 
Thinking about this in the car yesterday. What is the possibility that this happens within our lifetime?

Not very possible. People always underestimate the complexity of biology compared to physics, computer science, etc. We are still scraching the surface of biochemistry/genetics. In 200-1000 years we might be doing it.

Unless you're considering cryonics it's just not going to happen for our generations.

We are very very close. Look up technological singularity if you want to read more about it, and I think an indefinite lifespan (the eradication of natural causes of death) is a very realistic goal for most people born after 1980.

Not very close at all, sorry. Avoid futurist dreamers.. they are wrong about dates most of the time - especially for something as crazy as the singularity. Exponential growth does not happen forever in reality whether you're talking about Moore's Law or the buildup to the Singularity.

Everyone wants the great advancements to happen in their lifetime but immortality or even a lifespan-doubling wont be happening for us.


Damn really? I didn't think that would be a realistic goal in our lifetime.
That's pretty crazy to think about. Even if you did have the money to make it happen that would be such a weird decision to make...

It's not realistic in our lifetime so if interested do cryonics. Although the chance of everything going right in the world and in science to revive you from being frozen is probably about the chance of winning the lottery.

Still I'm a transhumanist and will likely do cryonics for the small chance it could pan out. But I won't be living my life like it's a sure thing.
 
I'm interested in hearing about any world or society changing technological advances that were invented in a government-less society at any point in history that backup this assertion of yours...GO!
I do not think this opinion is centered around any facts or logic.
I had a feeling this comment might not be too well-received.

It is centered around this "theory":

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A]The Story of Your Enslavement - YouTube[/ame]

Enjoy.
 
Not very close at all, sorry. Avoid futurist dreamers.. they are wrong about dates most of the time - especially for something as crazy as the singularity. Exponential growth does not happen forever in reality whether you're talking about Moore's Law or the buildup to the Singularity.

Everyone wants the great advancements to happen in their lifetime but immortality or even a lifespan-doubling wont be happening for us.

The doubling trend is expected to continue at least until the point of us having cheap computers with the computational power of the human brain. At that point computers can process far more data than a human brain which will likely lead to further processing gains that are not known to us right now. But even if that is not the case, the hardware will reach high enough performance that a technological singularity will be possible.

What'll likely be the bottleneck is software, which is of a complexity that means that neither of us can definitively say how soon it will be possible or not.