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thanks for the detailed response. As far as where I draw the line - it's when you use name of a (former) competitor to drive demand for your thingy. I don't know if the other guys are fine with it. You might be best buddies or even partnered with them. I'm just sharing my view on it and asking questions as a future (potential) customer.

I wouldn't have bothered if it wasn't for this q&a thread. As far as the bst thread, it does sound a bit like "buy this package and you will rank" type of deal. I guess I will just try it out and see what it can do for me.

Thanks again for the reply.
 


Bump.

Eliquid since you're a seasoned media buyer I wanted to get your input on this..

I just finished optimizing a very niche ppc campaign and now I want to start a media buy on sitescout. My plan is to target 5 of my competitor's sites and they all have multiple above the fold placements.

Assuming that I am only testing 1 offer, how many creatives should I start with in regards to different angles/copy, images, and size? Not sure how many I need to start with for a proper test.
 
I'd like to hear a detailed report on your experience during the rebill saga

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Bump.

Eliquid since you're a seasoned media buyer I wanted to get your input on this..

I just finished optimizing a very niche ppc campaign and now I want to start a media buy on sitescout. My plan is to target 5 of my competitor's sites and they all have multiple above the fold placements.

Assuming that I am only testing 1 offer, how many creatives should I start with in regards to different angles/copy, images, and size? Not sure how many I need to start with for a proper test.

I always like to start off with 5 each of IAB. This gives me enough for testing and to also combat banner blindness ( worse on bigger sites, but you can set freq cap on some media buys ). You will find that 3 sizes tend to do best overall, but then again it comes down to the site and placement.

Even once I find which sizes and placements worked for my target sites, I will have no more then 5 in rotation per spot. However, I was still split testing them so I would throw out 1-2 and put 1-2 back in. Depending on your cap, you can get away with just 2 per IAB and I have done 2 plenty of times too.

The key is, always be testing.
 
I always like to start off with 5 each of IAB. This gives me enough for testing and to also combat banner blindness ( worse on bigger sites, but you can set freq cap on some media buys ). You will find that 3 sizes tend to do best overall, but then again it comes down to the site and placement.

Even once I find which sizes and placements worked for my target sites, I will have no more then 5 in rotation per spot. However, I was still split testing them so I would throw out 1-2 and put 1-2 back in. Depending on your cap, you can get away with just 2 per IAB and I have done 2 plenty of times too.

The key is, always be testing.

Ok perfect.

So if I'm targeting a site and I'm testing 3 available placements: 300x250, 728x90, and 250x50.

Does that mean I'll have a total of 15 banners? (5 banners x 3 placements)
 
When are you going to start your own affiliate network? You've achieved a high level of success in the past few years. It seems that is the next logical step.
 
Ok perfect.

So if I'm targeting a site and I'm testing 3 available placements: 300x250, 728x90, and 250x50.

Does that mean I'll have a total of 15 banners? (5 banners x 3 placements)

Yes, but you should be testing all available to that site ( if its on 3 placement sizes, then fine ). You dont have to do 5 either, but do more then 1 of course.

When are you going to start your own affiliate network? You've achieved a high level of success in the past few years. It seems that is the next logical step.

Not interested in this, I have a lot of marketing background in ecom and I kind of like staying in that realm
 
Yes, but you should be testing all available to that site ( if its on 3 placement sizes, then fine ). You dont have to do 5 either, but do more then 1 of course.

Ok great.

So lets say it is 3 placements so 15 ads total. In regards to copy and images, do you create 15 completely different ads (different headlines and images)?

Or do you only have 5 different ads, and then make sure all 3 sets are using the same ones?

Also, do you focus on testing copy/angles first or the images first?

Thanks for the help.
 
I have one. For a noob SEOer what is your recommended steps for becoming a GREAT SEO guy like grindstone or some of the other great SEO guys on here?
 
Ok great.

So lets say it is 3 placements so 15 ads total. In regards to copy and images, do you create 15 completely different ads (different headlines and images)?

Or do you only have 5 different ads, and then make sure all 3 sets are using the same ones?

Also, do you focus on testing copy/angles first or the images first?

Thanks for the help.

You're over thinking it. Just create a few different ads for each placement, split test, and after enough impressions to draw conclusions drop the shitty ones and add in some new ones to split test against your winners. Rinse/repeat.
 
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Looking back, what would you say have been reasons of dropping some projects? other than lost interest. Like at which point would you say, this won't work. No specifics just need advise on when to persist and when to throw the towel.
 
Ok great.

So lets say it is 3 placements so 15 ads total. In regards to copy and images, do you create 15 completely different ads (different headlines and images)?

Or do you only have 5 different ads, and then make sure all 3 sets are using the same ones?

Also, do you focus on testing copy/angles first or the images first?

Thanks for the help.

On first run of anything ( even if Adwords ) I create totally different ones, see which ones stick ( messaging ) and then find the 1-2 that do best and make revisions of those for the others and replace them. Sometimes you just dont need 5 though and the 1-2 sets that seem to work are enough for a while by themselves. You just need to go and do it and see.


I have one. For a noob SEOer what is your recommended steps for becoming a GREAT SEO guy like grindstone or some of the other great SEO guys on here?

Just do it, and test shit people say doesnt work. Dont read forums, books, or anything else. Read serps, track serps, test your own ideas and just do it.


You're over thinking it. Just create a few different ads for each placement, split test, and after enough impressions to draw conclusions drop the shitty ones and add in some new ones to split test against your winners. Rinse/repeat.

^^ this



Looking back, what would you say have been reasons of dropping some projects? other than lost interest. Like at which point would you say, this won't work. No specifics just need advise on when to persist and when to throw the towel.


I get too many projects started, and I do them all myself it seems. I have people that help on simple mundane tasks ( VA type work, partners that do shit in their own areas ) but it still seems I handle a lot of the bulk of most things I dream up. With that in mind, it just comes down to time.

I am a long term plan killer. I might have 50 ideas in my head on projects I want to do and I might actually start ( in some shape or form ) 35 of them ( from buying a domain, setting up paperwork, etc ). Maybe only 10 of that 35 will make it to step 2 ( done enough to market it ) and then maybe only 5 will make it to step 3 which is actually marketing it and making my first dollar on it. Of those 5, maybe only 1 actually makes enough money to be worthwhile enough for me to continue or hand off to someone else to babysit it.

The reason the other 49 didn't make it ( out of 50 ) was time. Im doing all the setup and work in the beginning and THEN handing it off to someone once the idea is validated with money. For some reason, I cant seem to hand off projects before validation because I think to myself "maybe XYZ wasn't done right by VA #2 and thats why it is not making money". Even after I hand it off to someone else when its making money, it might take a dip in revenue in month 3 and then Im back to fooling with the project again in month 4 on my own and putting off all the new ideas I could be doing.

Also, every project that started successful and made it through all the steps doesn't always make money its entire life. For my ecom stuff, summer is a killer because sales take a huge dip down in the summer months compared to the rest of the year. This dip refocuses all I do because my time gets spent trying new things for the ecom stuff in summer to try to lessen that impact. This of course, hurts all my other projects. Its like a never ending hamster wheel at times, but with lots of projects and lots of timeframes.

I think to answer your question a bit better now that you know that, here is a list of reasons that I dropped projects ( doesnt mean they were good reasons ):

1. Time to finish. I have 100 other more important things to finish and simply cant do this or give attention to it. Mainly boils down to what is making the money now and needs attention

2. Money. Do I really want to sink $25k into this idea? Should I just pull the trigger and do it or think it over and invest this money into something else?

3. Too late to the game. When I thought this idea up, I didnt see very many if any competitors, but now that I am thinking about it a lot, I see a ton I didnt see before. More then I like too. ( kinda like when you buy a car no has, then you see them all the time, your mind just wasnt set on it before ).

4. Idea couldn't make money on its own within X timeframe. I have a short attention span, if it doesn't make at least a a couple dollar within X days, I get frustrated and maybe try 2-3 more things with it then move on ( and then forget about it ). If it does make some money upfront but then goes south ( maybe the freshness concept helped it make money ) I might also try a few more things and then move on.

5. Outside factors distracted me. Right now I am in the middle of getting my taxes set up. I also have some side business's that require their own attention at this moment and I also have a sink and a shower head I need to replace and the damn nut wont come off the pipe. I could hire a plumber, but where I live finding one is already one hell of a job in itself, let alone one that I want to trust enough to come to my house. Plumbers dont like driving 1-2 hours just to fix simple shit so I am left to dealing with it and spending time on it. The side business stuff is just shit that popped up and things I need to take care of ( employee shit that came up this week with some of them ) and then my taxes I just need to gather all my shit up and sit down with the CPA and go over it. All takes time, time that could be put on ideas.


I dont like to throw in the towel unless I know personally I have tried at least 2-4 different things ( big impact things ) to get a project jump started or running correctly again. People may question if those 2-4 things were the RIGHT things to do, but I try not to abandon unless I know I have put in the effort and made 2-4 different attacks on it before giving up, otherwise I am left with "what if".



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SEOHUG -

I've told you about when my projects fail, but let me share with you when my projects are success. Hopefully the answer you want/need is somewhere between the post above and this one.

1. Having partners. Yeah I hate this for many reasons, but if you pick the right partners and have the right incentive in place, it is a god send. Sure I make less money, but the chances of making money on a project seem to be more ( for me at least ). I don't get burned out from working on it nonstop on my own, I have other heads to bounce good and bad ideas off of, and other people are motivated to make money and help out in other areas they are good fits for. I spend maybe 25% of my time on a project and make 25% of the money, but thats better then spending 100% of my time on a project that ends up a dud with no income or 25% on an idea that never gets to completion ( and also no revenue ). Ideas that have partners just seem to work for me.. they might not be huge ideas, but their ideas that make money.

2. Ideas I have a keen interest in. I have about a thousand ideas a day it seems. 1 of which I thought would be profitable was setting up automated Kiosks in malls for payday loan offers or setting up laptops in the mall at a Kiosk for "winning a new iPhone". Even better, setting up a real payday loan shack on the road with just a touchscreen kiosk that was a payday loan offer and simply deposited money into your bank account which meant I carried no cash. Did I have a passion for this idea? NO. So it got dropped after I over analyzed it and never went through with it.

However, I realized that ideas I had a real keen interest in got completed and done. Its hard to make money on ideas that never get completed and you never get a MVP with, so the first critical step is getting an idea to "done" so that you can market it. Ideas I had a keen passion for, got done which got me 1 step closer to validating them with money.

3. Setting small and achievable goals on those ideas daily and executing them. You might have 5 ideas today for new websites or marketing ideas, but what if you set a goal on each of them that was super tiny and just did them? It could be as small as today, you just bought the domain name. Tomorrow you just bought the hosting account and set it up. 3 days from now might be, hiring an article writer to write the 5 articles you need. 4th day might be setting up wordpress and picking a theme. day 6 might be putting the articles on the site. Day 7 might be buying a BST or setting up Twitter and FB for it.

Break your tasks down into small micro goals and just get yourself started and use to doing SOMETHING on your goal daily. Its OK to be somewhat slow starting out. Thats 10x better then no action at all. Those small steps will give you positive reinforcement and also a routine to where before you know it, your taking on bigger and bigger tasks with those goals and are at the point where you do not want to give up on it.
 
serious question ...

why do you live in bumfuck kentucky when you could live comfortably pretty much anywhere?

do you just love it out there? financial reasons (you want to live well below your means) or ??
 
Just do it, and test shit people say doesnt work. Dont read forums, books, or anything else. Read serps, track serps, test your own ideas and just do it.

This x1000. The only difference between any SEO is resources, how much testing they're willing to do and how well they interpret the data in a correlative relationship to the actual Google algo. Also, I'm not a great SEO.
 
Cereal Quest on:

How are you able to get Font Size 7 in your signature? I'm stuck at max 4. Who did you do a deal for that?

I cant share how or why, but I toned it down since you brought it up. LOL

serious question ...

why do you live in bumfuck kentucky when you could live comfortably pretty much anywhere?

do you just love it out there? financial reasons (you want to live well below your means) or ??

I guess people just think Kentucky is bumfuck. Honestly we have schools that rank top in the nation ( at times ) and get voted with cities as best places to live at times and such. I agree that most of the state is behind and rural/wooded, but you have pockets of development like Lexington and Louisville. Does that means its Manhattan, no but NY is not Manhattan either.

I was born here and have actually came close to moving out and going to Cali a few times, but that was before I got settled down. I didn't end up making a great living for myself until I got settled down and had kids and once that happens, it is a bit harder to just up and move away for multiple reasons. Can it be done, sure. However, I just dont have it in me to move away yet until my kids are out of school and on their own. Plus, owning a home and land that would otherwise cost upwards of a 1MM for less then 1/3rd of that is pretty sweet as well.

I know a lot of people think you have to have this and that ( top end shit ) to make money and keep money and then once you get it you ball out on crazy ass expensive things. However, I made my first million using a laptop that not only half the screen didn't work correctly, had no wifi and a broken trackpad. To add insult to it, it was running Windows ME and I was using 56k dailup service because I could not get DSL. This was all in 2008 too. I use to have to drive to the library and coffee shops if I really needed to work ( once I got USB wifi to work on the laptop ). You dont need to move, have fancy shit, or any of that stupid crap to get ahead. With that mindset, Kentucky just came natural for me to stay in too.

Trust me, in about 10 years when my kids are grown and gone, I wont be in KY for very much longer. lol
 
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Awesome reply, was just curious. I only said bumfuck because earlier in the thread you mentioned it would take a plumber an hour or two just to get to your house. I hear you about the kids. Take your time with the move - there are days when I want to move in YOUR direction.
 
1. What measurable indicators do you use to determine when it's time to automate a business process?

2. How valuable has online networking been for you in comparison to offline networking?

3. Considering the many software available for internet marketers and webmasters, what remains a mostly unsolved pain point for you?

4. What would you recommend to an early-stage business owner and family man, where time is precious no matter which way it's spent?

Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and congrats on the milestone.
 
1. What measurable indicators do you use to determine when it's time to automate a business process?

The honest answer is, if it can be automated then it should have already been and its already too late to be thinking about it. You need to automate upfront if it can be and NOT be a time sink for you.

I like to start a process, see it succeed, and then automate ( cheap for me since I can code ) from the get go once the process works. I dont want to automate if the process doesnt work. The longer you wait to automate, the likelihood you wont automate it.

2. How valuable has online networking been for you in comparison to offline networking?

Well, I really dont do any networking and I think it overall has damaged me in a lot of ways. Sure I talk to people from this forum in skype and email and then at shows, but thats about it. I think if I networked more it would have been a ton more helpful and I think it would have been better offline then online.

3. Considering the many software available for internet marketers and webmasters, what remains a mostly unsolved pain point for you?

Since I code, I build those for myself already. Im not willing to really out them since I might try to sell my software some day.

Seriously though, I think a pain point is not enough tools like IFTTT ( if this then that ) that dont crumble under pressure from larger companies. I mean, I code all I want, but it would be awesome to have more plug and play software for marketers like this.

4. What would you recommend to an early-stage business owner and family man, where time is precious no matter which way it's spent?

You will never make your wife or kids happy. Work a ton and not spend time with them, they are not happy. Work less and soak up their time, they will find something else to complain about like lack of money. You cant make everyone happy, but thats not a bad thing.. just know this.

Also know, you cant make every happy.. but time is the one thing you can not ever replace or buy. Once its gone you cant get it back. If I lose all my money I can get it back with hustle, but I cant get my kids 7th birthday back or their first day at school.

Listening goes further then having the right advice.

Learn to hire people or partner with people to give you more time, use your money to get time.

Most times they just need to know your there and listening and around and care. Memories are more important to you ( and them ) then a new pony.

One of the best things you can do if you cant make more time for them is, make more memories for them. Schedule time each week to make at least 1 memory with them they will always remember, like taking them on a mini vacation on Saturday or to a ballgame if you havent already and getting on the court/field during halftime.

Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and congrats on the milestone.