how to stop dark knight rises massacre

Taking away the right to bear arms would give the people (government) with weapons a license to dominate.

Also, just want to add that the founding fathers knew this... that's why they put it in the fucking constitution. Politicians who fuck with the constitution need to be thrown in prison.
 


Yes just like the 12 people who stepped right out and went home. Wait.

No, like the 488 people who stepped right out and went home. If you're one of the first people he opened fire on, you were fucked either way. It wouldn't have mattered if you were playing cowboy with your six-shooter that night or not. But assuming you weren't unlucky enough to be one of the first, yes, I'd walk out... while throwing babies and old ladies on the ground as I made my way to the door.
 
No, like the 488 people who stepped right out and went home. If you're one of the first people he opened fire on, you were fucked either way. It wouldn't have mattered if you were playing cowboy with your six-shooter that night or not. But assuming you weren't unlucky enough to be one of the first, yes, I'd walk out... while throwing babies and old ladies on the ground as I made my way to the door.

Just curious what goes on in the mind of subigo...what if you were there with a close friend, girlfriend, close family member, etc? Would you still walk away and not try to help?
 
Dear Liberals:

You're welcome to give away your own personal rights to defend yourself from the nearly infinite bad guys out there that ALREADY have the guns, laws or none.

But the second you start trying to get a politician to take away MY rights to defend myself, you are literally stepping in front of MY gun too.
 
Just curious what goes on in the mind of subigo...what if you were there with a close friend, girlfriend, close family member, etc? Would you still walk away and not try to help?

The same principle applies to the theory of hiking in bear country. You don't have to be faster than the bear, you just have to be faster than the person you're hiking with.

My friends and family would all be on their own. Especially since they all like to play cowboy and would most likely have a gun with them. I'll leave them to their shootout while I walk out.
 
The same principle applies to the theory of hiking in bear country. You don't have to be faster than the bear, you just have to be faster than the person you're hiking with.

My friends and family would all be on their own. Especially since they all like to play cowboy and would most likely have a gun with them. I'll leave them to their shootout while I walk out.

That's cold man. So if you were there with your mother you would just walk out and leave her without even trying to assist her in staying alive?
 
That's cold man. So if you were there with your mother you would just walk out and leave her without even trying to assist her in staying alive?

My mom takes a "Pink Lady" 38 Special with her to the grocery store and likes to randomly shoot at carp in the lake. I'd probably run out twice as fast, because instead of one shooter on the loose, I'd end up having to worry about my mom accidentally blowing my brains out.
 
Hmmm, I'm in a movie theatre and some psycho stands up and starts shooting people...

Good Lord, the only thing that could make this worse is some conceal-and-carry citizen whipping out his gun and firing back. Because that would cause pandemonium!

I must be drunk again. I don't understand some of the logic in some of the posts in this thread.
 
Of course he would; he expects Obomba to swoop in on his unicorn and save her!

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lol @ everyone saying the body armor wouldn't make a difference. The old fuck in the video unloaded and only hit those kids twice. And maybe you missed it, but he only stopped one of them. And even then, just barely.

If you think that same old man would have been able to stop a lunatic in a dark theater full of tear gas, you're the ones who play too many video games, not me. Your delusions of vigilante justice are laughable. Not only would none of you have taken the guy out, you most likely would have had your face blown right the fuck off for trying.

Bring on all the cowboy superhero replies.

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Like many others on WickedFire, I am a legal CCW permit holder. Since the tragedy in Aurora, I've spent a lot of time thinking about what I would have done in the same situation.

My response would be dictated by who I'm with. As a father and husband, my primary responsibility is my family. I am NOT going to play cowboy with my children's lives. I would not engage an individual unless backed into a corner and it was necessary to protect my immediate family. If I am able to get them to safety without shooting in a dark and smokey theater, I sure as hell will, and feel bad about the dead later.

Sorry if I'm not the Navy SEAL, or SWAT operator like most here are.

I'm just a dad, and that's why I carry.
 
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Like many others on WickedFire, I am a legal CCW permit holder. Since the tragedy in Aurora, I've spent a lot of time thinking about what I would have done in the same situation.

My response would be dictated by who I'm with. As a father and husband, my primary responsibility is my family. I am NOT going to play cowboy with my children's lives. I would not engage an individual unless backed into a corner and it was necessary to protect my immediate family. If I am able to get them to safety without shooting in a dark and smokey theater, I sure as hell will, and feel bad about the dead later.

Sorry if I'm not the Navy SEAL, or SWAT operator like most here are.

At this point, the debate has deteriorated into "cowboys versus cowards." That's clearly an oversimplification, and a misguided one at that. It's like debating democrats versus republicans. It's uninteresting and leads nowhere.


I'm a dad, and that's why I carry.

Fixed. ;)
 
Easy solution: Give everybody a gun. If you pull your gun out first, you're the terrorist. If you pull your gun out second, you're EVERYBODY ELSE! Good Luck, first guy!
 
I think the #1 reason for violence in the US is directly because of the lucrative drug market. WHY WHY WHY can't the government just legalize drugs and regulate everything already? Doing so would raise huge sums of money that they desperately need, and cut the head off the whole problem for violence in the first place - gang warfare.

On top of the reduction in violence, the government could also employ sooooo many people to help enforce the regulation of it. The government could employ so many more people than they already do, if they so wished to do so. So my thought process is.... legalizing drugs = less violence = more money = more jobs. All of this simply makes for a stronger economy.

What are the real reasons for not legalizing drugs already? Does it have to do with some strategic advantage that the government wants to keep against the people as a whole? I almost never get into and discuss politics, so forgive me if this has all been discussed thousands of times before. Can it all boil down to 1 reason?
 
Funny, but I'd wager that the people who 'know what they would do' have never seen gun fire between humans in a situation where humans die.

Fact: It isn't like the movies and everything very much depends on 1,000,000 variables which you only experience in the moment. Thinking you know what you would so is beyond retarded and exposes the extreme childishness of the person making the statement. And that goes both for the 'cowboys and cowards'.

And this hole situation has nothing to do with gun control. Everyone discussing that point is being trolled.
 
What are the real reasons for not legalizing drugs already? Does it have to do with some strategic advantage that the government wants to keep against the people as a whole? I almost never get into and discuss politics, so forgive me if this has all been discussed thousands of times before. Can it all boil down to 1 reason?

There may be other reasons, but here's the biggest one: The Prison Industrial Complex doesn't want to give up the most lucrative Rebill scam in human history.
 
I think the #1 reason for violence in the US is directly because of the lucrative drug market. WHY WHY WHY can't the government just legalize drugs and regulate everything already? Doing so would raise huge sums of money that they desperately need, and cut the head off the whole problem for violence in the first place - gang warfare.

On top of the reduction in violence, the government could also employ sooooo many people to help enforce the regulation of it. The government could employ so many more people than they already do, if they so wished to do so. So my thought process is.... legalizing drugs = less violence = more money = more jobs. All of this simply makes for a stronger economy.

What are the real reasons for not legalizing drugs already? Does it have to do with some strategic advantage that the government wants to keep against the people as a whole? I almost never get into and discuss politics, so forgive me if this has all been discussed thousands of times before. Can it all boil down to 1 reason?

The CIA would really miss the extra income as well as other covert alphabet soup gov agencies. And the prison owners would also miss the income. Also, corrupt politicians/government bureaucrats. Also the fast food industry would miss having ex-cons work almost for free.

Not to mention that fact that if I was the government, I'd like to have
1- The ability to know who will sell out for money on issues that don't matter
2- The ability to prosecute most innocent anti-establishment people based on bogus charges