HELP!! Hydra Leads Invalidated!!

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which makes me think they are throwing us under the bus and simply taking thier cut, which is fucked up.

Yes it smells like this whole "you can bid on any terms in the world except these ones that you bid on anyway" thing is definitely a scam cooked up by hydra to steal $6000 of your hard earned money. You should get a lawyer.
 


Obviously if Hydra doesnt get paid they wont pay me. I am mad at Hydra for failing to extract money, I really feel like they have many angles they could take to get money. I also feel like somehow Hydra is getting their cut because they would care a lot more. My AM manager told me this happened with more then just me on the network, Hydra could stand to lose a chunk of change on this whole odreal, which makes me think they are throwing us under the bus and simply taking thier cut, which is fucked up.

Hello friend,

It fault of you own. If merchant say no can use bid term then you no can use. It no like they change rule after you make leads just so you no get pay.

If Hydra demand you get pay maybe lose merchant for life. You have ask is $7,000 of lead you make more important to Hydra then lose merchant for life and potential millions worth of lead in future time with them?

Good luck bro
 
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Hello friend,

It fault of you own. If merchant say no can use bid term then you no can use. It no like they change rule after you make leads just so you no get pay.

If Hydra demand you get pay maybe lose merchant for life. You have ask is $7,000 of lead you make more important to Hydra then lose merchant for life and potential millions worth of lead in future time with them?

Good luck bro
 
I want to clarify this one more time for everyone talking about TM bids. NOWHERE on the campaign did it say I can't bid on certain keywords cause the campaign was not for search. So... I didnt realize I wasnt allowed to search and I obviously didnt see anything about not TM bidding becuase there was nothing written about it... So YES I was TM bidding but there was nothing written against that. It was simply that I was searching on a non search campaign, now should that really make it so I am "not owed a dime" because I made a mistake.

The bottom line is I made a company money, if I didnt do it correctly you COMPROMISE and give me a percentage, or something. You don't simply say screwyou, you made me 25k, go roll over and die.
 
Do you guys really think Hydra would not care at all if they didnt get their cut? I feel from Hydras non-caring attitude they obviously got paid on their percentage. Which me and my friend ( in the same situation ) will make sure the entire AM community knows about it.
 
And I really feel your yelping at a brick wall. Again, I don't see how your owned shit.

You have no idea what kind of relationship Hydra has with the merchant. I'm sure this isn't the first time they have seen this. If they already went a round with this for someone else and didn't get anything out of it they might not feel like its a waste of time to do it again.

You can continue to bitch about it all you want, but you openly already said that you broke the TOS for that offer. Your really up a shit river with out a paddle.
 
And I really feel your yelping at a brick wall. Again, I don't see how your owned shit.

You have no idea what kind of relationship Hydra has with the merchant. I'm sure this isn't the first time they have seen this. If they already went a round with this for someone else and didn't get anything out of it they might not feel like its a waste of time to do it again.

You can continue to bitch about it all you want, but you openly already said that you broke the TOS for that offer. Your really up a shit river with out a paddle.

If you really believe that, then you are probably lucky the AM world exists cause I doubt you'd survive in any other market.

I made a company 25k, sorry I didnt do it 100% the way they wanted, but I still made them money. if you think I or anybody in my situation is entitled to nothing, then I don't know what your problem is. You never just give someone the finger when they made you 25k, REGARDLESS of what they did. I MADE THEM MONEY. If they think it is unfair that I made them money through search, then level my payout to a fair amount. Don't give me the 100% but to say screw you and give me nothing, that is bad business and Hydra is bending over and allowing them to do that.
 
Do you guys really think Hydra would not care at all if they didnt get their cut? I feel from Hydras non-caring attitude they obviously got paid on their percentage. Which me and my friend ( in the same situation ) will make sure the entire AM community knows about it.

Hello friend,

I think they no care much because the $7,000 of lead you make is nothing to company. Hydra generate close to $1 billion of affiliate commision a year.

Maybe if you make $7 million of commission and no $7,000 and they care.

Why think they risk good relationship with merchant and future revenue just for you $7,000 when you one who do mistake?

It still no change fault of you own. If it say no search then you make even more big mistake by promote on search. It more big mistake then use no allow bid terms on campaign which allow search to begin.

Good luck bro
 
You broke the rules that was the T&C. It sucks cause you did make them money. But atleast it wasn't more than $1500. Just move on you will be ok.
 
No way 25k?!? Give me your ebook now.

I have a friend who has had Copiac AND Neverblue fight for him for under 3k of money... Its just the principle, which Hydra doesn't seem to care about. I made their advertiser money, and I should get some money no matter what.
 
Hello friend,

I think they no care much because the $7,000 of lead you make is nothing to company. Hydra generate close to $1 billion of affiliate commision a year.

Maybe if you make $7 million of commission and no $7,000 and they care.

Why think they risk good relationship with merchant and future revenue just for you $7,000 when you one who do mistake?

It still no change fault of you own. If it say no search then you make even more big mistake by promote on search. It more big mistake then use no allow bid terms on campaign which allow search to begin.

Good luck bro

I totally get what you're saying. I've seen other networks like I posted fight for much smaller amounts. Its just the principle, Hydra can definitely argue that it doesnt matter what TOS he broke, kick him off ban him from the campaign, but you can't not pay someone for bringing you leads. You simply stop doing business with the person but I have never heard of any other industry simply saying, oh you didnt sell our product 100% the way we told you to, sorry but we're keeping all the profit and your SOL.
 
I have a friend who has had Copiac AND Neverblue fight for him for under 3k of money... Its just the principle, which Hydra doesn't seem to care about. I made their advertiser money, and I should get some money no matter what.

Hello friend,

If think you should get money no matter what then go sue in court of law. That what they exist for.

Good luck bro.
 
Hello friend,

If think you should get money no matter what then go sue in court of law. That what they exist for.

Good luck bro.

I'd spend more money on a lawyer then the amount being payed!

Your replies have been non-bashing thuogh, I appreciate it.
 
I know multiple people who got caught for TM bidding and got paid on every single one. Is it common to simply not get paid? They usually just give you a warning tell you to knock it off and ban you from the campaign. They don't not pay you at all, or am I wrong?

Yeah, you're wrong and you're in denial...this is not at all a typical situation.

So fine, you "know" some affiliates that have been TM bidding and got paid, and were given a slap on the wrist. Yeah, slap on the wrist because they did something slightly shady in lieu of all the other volume they've been sending the network. So many times, it's not a big deal.

However, let's figure out what you did. You picked a highly branded offer, around one of its biggest revenue inducing holidays, and ran your ads under TM's. Could you possibly red flag yourself more? When others were probably doing a tenth of the volume. Gee, I wonder why there was ZERO competition, or did you just think you were a genius?
 
Its obvious I will not win on the forums. But if you guys think in general business if someone makes a company money they don't get paid, you are wrong. They will get money in return 99% of the time, even if it is far smaller portion then the original agreed upon amount.
 
Your not going to win [here at least] because you are wrong and are thinking your entitled to something you are not. You only signed up here to bitch anyways, what do we care?
 
Its obvious I will not win on the forums. But if you guys think in general business if someone makes a company money they don't get paid, you are wrong. They will get money in return 99% of the time, even if it is far smaller portion then the original agreed upon amount.

Well since you are right and everyone else is wrong, perhaps you should capitalize on being 1/100 and go buy a scratch-off ticket.
 
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