Wow... your a fucking cheap ass. I thought your kind stuck on digital point?
I almost always tip, usually around 20%~. It's good karma...
I almost always tip, usually around 20%~. It's good karma...
Gratuity Included
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No, I pay 20% more for normal wait service. If the server is particularly bad I will let them know through a less than stellar tip.
It isn't very often I agree with someone sporting a "grill" and those ridiculous shade glasses, but in this instance I do.
I've been to a couple of places that have added 10% (one place 8%) gratuity to the bill, and I didn't mind + doubled it as service was good both times.
But on a recent visit to the melting pot they added 25% gratuity and the waitress was not very good at all. I had a supervisor come over with the waitress and explained to them how tipping works. Customers tip good if service was good, and the other way around, and had the gratuity removed. I still tipped 15% considering the place, and would have been comfortable paying 25% had they not been trying to force it when they didn't deserve it.
There are a lot of people who, despite being treated great by their server, do not leave tips, and at some places (like those that force their employees to report and share tips) include this forced gratuity to make sure their staff earn a reasonable amount.
But on a recent visit to the melting pot they added 25% gratuity and the waitress was not very good at all. I had a supervisor come over with the waitress and explained to them how tipping works. Customers tip good if service was good, and the other way around, and had the gratuity removed. I still tipped 15% considering the place, and would have been comfortable paying 25% had they not been trying to force it when they didn't deserve it.
There are a lot of people who, despite being treated great by their server, do not leave tips, and at some places (like those that force their employees to report and share tips) include this forced gratuity to make sure their staff earn a reasonable amount.
8%-10% That would be highly insulting and I would be happy to have you keep your money. When was that? 35 years ago? (PS I'm 38 and don't remember EVER hearing it that low)
When I was in college I made part of my living on tips and as such I remember it today when I go out to eat. My dad taught me very early on, if you don't have money to tip (appropriately), you don't have money to go out.
As far as the OP goes, seems a bit strange to have the tip included. Sounds like they were hedging their bet. I would have let mgt know and like similar has said, I would demanded they remove it. I generally tip too good for even the most moderate of service, because I have been there too. Normally it's around 25%--drives my wife nuts b/c she is from Brazil and they don't tip like us here.
I do agree that the tipping culture seems to be getting out of hand. I won't tip a starbucks girl or any of the other service oriented type stuff. Valet's yup, Masseuse's not normally, hotel staff- not normally, room service, typically 18% is included so they need to get me the food REAL quick. Bartenders (back in the day) oh hell yeah, I made sure they were taken care of.
Why, because society says you should? I fucking hate the tipping custom. I would much rather just pay for my food and service and get what I pay for. If you need to charge extra to pay your servers, then do it. And if you don't like your job waiting tables, don't do it. Everyone acts like its this social responsibility to the poor people waiting tables to give them extra money because aww they have to wait tables, whether they do a good job or not.
Considered reasonable by him I'm guessing. I live near Orlando and friends in the service industry used to tell me horror stories about our friends from across the pond. They would avoid waiting on them like the plague.
A tip should always be voluntary.
Here's my thinking - If a waitress/waiter is doing their job right, then the good tips will make up for the bad. If a waitress/waiter is not doing their job right, then let the poor paying tips weed them out to find other jobs. And if your restaurant is in a neighborhood where people don't tip, either pay your help more, or move your damn restaurant. But don't force people to do acts that should be voluntary.
Here's my thinking - If a waitress/waiter is doing their job right, then the good tips will make up for the bad. If a waitress/waiter is not doing their job right, then let the poor paying tips weed them out to find other jobs. And if your restaurant is in a neighborhood where people don't tip, either pay your help more, or move your damn restaurant. But don't force people to do acts that should be voluntary.
Right, I get what you're saying. but to me another $2-$8 is worth the peace of mind.
Meh.
There are some cheap fucks in this thread considering how many "ballers" there are on WF. (And this is coming from a guy who makes less than $100k/yr)
I think some people need to understand that you don't tip for everything in the fucking world and discretion is necessary. You shouldnt be tipping because you fear retribution, you should be tipping because you either want to show gratitude for the quality of service offered by the staff or you want to ensure that you continue to receive quality service when you return.
Even if I'm at a dive bar getting a $3 beer i throw the bartender a dollar or two. If I know that I am going to be at a place for a while or its a spot that i frequent I will usually just tip the bartender $20 on my first drink and i never have to worry about waiting for a drink for the rest of the night. I have found that once you actually get to know the people at a place they will either refuse your preemptive tip or will just comp most or all of your drinks for the rest of the evening because they know you will take care of them.
A little generosity goes a long way fellas. I have found that giving a little upfront more often than not results in getting back far more.
I think some people need to understand that you don't tip for everything in the fucking world and discretion is necessary. You shouldnt be tipping because you fear retribution, you should be tipping because you either want to show gratitude for the quality of service offered by the staff or you want to ensure that you continue to receive quality service when you return.
Even if I'm at a dive bar getting a $3 beer i throw the bartender a dollar or two. If I know that I am going to be at a place for a while or its a spot that i frequent I will usually just tip the bartender $20 on my first drink and i never have to worry about waiting for a drink for the rest of the night. I have found that once you actually get to know the people at a place they will either refuse your preemptive tip or will just comp most or all of your drinks for the rest of the evening because they know you will take care of them.
A little generosity goes a long way fellas. I have found that giving a little upfront more often than not results in getting back far more.