Full Tilt Poker

[xentech]

Probably anywhere between 12k to 15k hands.

Happens way too often especially right after you cash out, coincident?

QQ flopped Q 6 6, other guy has pocket 6
66 flopped 6 k 2, other guy has pocket K

Flopped straight with 3 people go all in with me.
One guy flopped a set, one guy flopped top pair with flush draw, one guy with over pair

Unreal

Coincidence, there is no evidence to think otherwise. Once you understand variance in poker you will see that swings like these are fairly standard. Even winning players can go on a stretch of 100k hands playing breakeven due to sheer variance.

(a) Why would they do this to people who cash out? Give me a reason.
(b) Why are there thousands of people who make a living playing on full tilt poker and cash out regularly with no complaints?

You mean something like this?

Standard. The chances of that happening aren't even that low.

 

[Soupyone]

I played online for about one year straight as a full time job, trained on Cardrunners.com and bought everything written by Mike Caro, Daniel Negreanu, studied all the online top players (Dwan, Ivey, Antonius, Hansen). It was ALL I DID. I was an average to above average online pro, but I cleaned up when hitting the casinos playing 2/5 NLHE ring games.

Why am I not doing it now? My bankroll management was terrible, glad I made the switch to aff marketing anyways (I sell directly to the vendors though - not networks) I was always spending time in a casino at night or some poker hall with people I wouldn't share a cab with.

As for bad beats? Bad beats are part of the game, I ran cold for two straight months. Set over sets, Jacks full under Quads... It's part of the game.

If you have the patience and skill to play and win a few hands over many hands while minimizing your losses you'll do fine in the long run, but to be honest anyone playing anything less than 2/4 has no right to talk about suckouts.

Low limits aren't even worth the rake they carry.

For the record, game selection is the most important tool an online pro can carry. Second is hand selection. Third being table image consideration. Then changing gears.

FullTilt is shark infested waters. Stars is shark infested waters. UltimateBet is shark infested waters. When I wanted a loose game I played on Carbon Poker.

In person I only played in the casino around 9pm on Fridays or 10pm on Saturdays (after months of going no where at the local poker room). Fish are friends & food.

 

[onlinemoniez]

I played online for about one year straight as a full time job, trained on Cardrunners.com and bought everything written by Mike Caro, Daniel Negreanu, studied all the online top players (Dwan, Ivey, Antonius, Hansen). It was ALL I DID. I was an average to above average online pro, but I cleaned up when hitting the casinos playing 2/5 NLHE ring games.

Why am I not doing it now? My bankroll management was terrible, glad I made the switch to aff marketing anyways (I sell directly to the vendors though - not networks) I was always spending time in a casino at night or some poker hall with people I wouldn't share a cab with.

As for bad beats? Bad beats are part of the game, I ran cold for two straight months. Set over sets, Jacks full under Quads... It's part of the game.

If you have the patience and skill to play and win a few hands over many hands while minimizing your losses you'll do fine in the long run, but to be honest anyone playing anything less than 2/4 has no right to talk about suckouts.

Low limits aren't even worth the rake they carry.

I played full-time after college, and supported myself with poker throughout college. One thing that really helped me online was the fact that I was a prop player and getting 85% rakeback. I was playing 1/2 and up, so I would get about a 1-2k paycheck every week depending on how much I played, which was usually a lot.

I too had horrible bank management skills. I'd get fucking trashed, come home, play heads up cash, and do stupid shit.

At the time I lived in philly so I'd be in AC a lot. I'd usually just play 1/2 because, well, you can clean up at that limit as you know.


As far as low limits not being worth it- what do you need to survive, 100 bucks a day? You can make that at 25/50 cent sitting all day and waiting for the nuts. That's what I did when I first started out.

 

[Soupyone]

I played full-time after college, and supported myself with poker throughout college. One thing that really helped me online was the fact that I was a prop player and getting 85% rakeback. I was playing 1/2 and up, so I would get about a 1-2k paycheck every week depending on how much I played, which was usually a lot.

I too had horrible bank management skills. I'd get fucking trashed, come home, play heads up cash, and do stupid shit.

At the time I lived in philly so I'd be in AC a lot. I'd usually just play 1/2 because, well, you can clean up at that limit as you know.


As far as low limits not being worth it- what do you need to survive, 100 bucks a day? You can make that at 25/50 cent sitting all day and waiting for the nuts. That's what I did when I first started out.

I started out playing freerolls then quickly learned it's NOTHING like a cash game (while I sold my internet leads full time). I took off from the Internet thing to play so I had to maintain the same income level so I'd say... Maybe about $6,000 a month in bills.

Doesn't come close to aff marketing though. 6K a week is coming shortly so poker is now something I do in the casino if I need more money to lose playing blackjack. :338: