"Federal judge blocks parts of Arizona immigration law"

Please pull your head from the ass of the communist party that is spreading this propaganda. The law clearly made it illegal for law enforcment to verify legal status due to the color of the skin etc. READ THE FUCKIN LAW. Goddamn..why the fuck can't you guys get that through your heads.

I want people like you thrown outa the country because your fuckin stupid not because your "brown"


You are so moron! Do you think I believe that shit? You don't know also how a illegal look like? Obviously they will suspect by their appearance. :action-smiley-052:
 


don't worry, I'll be bitching enough for both of us if that ever happens. :D

You have to "whip out" papers now anytime you get pulled over by police, renew your drivers licence, attend college, purchase items with a credit card, buy a house, buy a car, travel outside the country, open a bank account, go into a bar, buy cigs, buy alcohol, purchase guns, purchase insurance, see a doctor, register to vote, start new utility service....Should I go on?

You have to show "papers" in almost everything you do.....so are you mad yet?
 
Lol at the world thinking America is 'redneck'. Actually in the present case most of the world, apart from the Socialists in Europe, are wondering why America can't defend its border, like a normal country.

There are more people dying in the drug war in Mexico then there are in Iraq. And what are they fighting over? Who gets access to the American market. People aren't complaining about Canadian illegals because they aren't bringing a drug-related crime wave with them.

Also. Whats happening on the border there is not quite 'immigration', illegal or otherwise. This kind of phenomenon is called 'border creep'. An ethnicity from one side of the border is creeping over and slowly dominating in numbers the other side of the border.

This is not a problem as a long as America is far superior to Mexico economically and Mexicans want to go north to follow the 'American dream'.

Fast forward 50 years from now. When Mexico is on par with the US economically and the American dream (which culturally unites America and forms part of its identity) incentive is gone. Now look around the world at any place were this kind of border creep has occured and the problems they are perpetually having. And oh, at some point someone will remember that that land was once part of Mexico.

Thats when America will have a problem. When it gets its very own and rather large separatist movement. Or at least a population which largely identifies more with a foreign neighbouring country then with the US.
 
Bro, you gotta take it easy. There are libs out there who play the racism card too easy.

But there are people who ARE racist but couch it in non-racist terms.

They hate minorities, but they call it "Juss' defendin' our bawders!"

They hate the president cuz he's black, but they say "I hate his pawlicies!"

Not everybody is racist. But the ones who are have gotten slick.

They want to buy drugs from Mexico. They like the cheap landscaping that Mexicans provide. They like the cheap fruits and vegetables they pick. They like the cheap construction and manual labor.

But they don't want em in the country. Why? As long as they're working here, let em be here. Pay their fines, pay back taxes, get registered with the police who will check their criminal records, get them fingerprinted, DNA swabbed, whatever.

If you can make a sane, logical, rational argument for why that is not a good idea without "fuck you fuckity fuck", we're all listening.

I never said anything about the hypocrites, I am not defending them, I have no idea why you think I am lol. I never mentioned those people who are racist yet go right around the corner and hire a few mexicans for cheap labor. I am not defending those people at all.

The only point I was trying to make is there is a SIGNIFICANT portion of liberals that pull the race card too easily. And it gets me all fired up and saying things like "you fuckity fuck" (I like that btw) because it PREVENTS any progress. The liberals are all about progress, yet I cannot understand why all the liberals feel that calling people racist every chance they get slows down any sort of progress. Once that happens you get a large majority of conservatives who aren't racist (like myself) pissed. Sure there are the ones that are racist, hell let's even say 10% that are flat out racist. That means 90% of the time when you call myself or any other conservative racist simply because we don't agree with you about fixing this obvious problem, we have immediately stopped arguing about THE PROBLEM AT HAND and you have attacked me personally. Then it becomes a question of just how racist I am in your mind and me trying to defend myself, again instead of FIXING THE PROBLEM AT HAND.

Any logical person can see how the liberals careless attitude towards using this word at ANYONE who disagrees with them (see the example I gave simply stating more black people are in prison than white people, which again is a fact so please don't try to disagree with me there) is immediately called a racist.

Again, any sane person can see how this would obviously prevent the fixation of any problem, because you guys are too busy name calling (a name that has some pretty serious implications at that).

p.s. how's that without all the fuckity fucks?
 
We have issues with Russians, and other Eastern European nationalities here illegally so lets force everyone to carry proof of citizenship where ever they go. This would have to either birth certificate or a copy of your passport. Make it a 2500 dollar fine if you are caught with out. Should solve the racism and raise a little more from the far righties.
 
I never said anything about the hypocrites, I am not defending them, I have no idea why you think I am lol. I never mentioned those people who are racist yet go right around the corner and hire a few mexicans for cheap labor. I am not defending those people at all.

The only point I was trying to make is there is a SIGNIFICANT portion of liberals that pull the race card too easily. And it gets me all fired up and saying things like "you fuckity fuck" (I like that btw) because it PREVENTS any progress. The liberals are all about progress, yet I cannot understand why all the liberals feel that calling people racist every chance they get slows down any sort of progress. Once that happens you get a large majority of conservatives who aren't racist (like myself) pissed. Sure there are the ones that are racist, hell let's even say 10% that are flat out racist. That means 90% of the time when you call myself or any other conservative racist simply because we don't agree with you about fixing this obvious problem, we have immediately stopped arguing about THE PROBLEM AT HAND and you have attacked me personally. Then it becomes a question of just how racist I am in your mind and me trying to defend myself, again instead of FIXING THE PROBLEM AT HAND.

Any logical person can see how the liberals careless attitude towards using this word at ANYONE who disagrees with them (see the example I gave simply stating more black people are in prison than white people, which again is a fact so please don't try to disagree with me there) is immediately called a racist.

Again, any sane person can see how this would obviously prevent the fixation of any problem, because you guys are too busy name calling (a name that has some pretty serious implications at that).

p.s. how's that without all the fuckity fucks?

I hate libtards as much as you do, and both sides have their equal share of fuckfaces.

I agree with you that the race card shouldn't be played as often as Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would have us use it. In fact, being a minority, individual minorities are often more racist towards white people as a group than white individuals are towards minorities.

But the question becomes, how the fuck is the AZ law supposed to practically solve anything? It freaks minorities (legal and illegal) out. It makes white people happy. But what does it do on the ground?

1) If it allows individual agencies to determine what is and isn't "reasonable suspicion" without any specific mechanism in place to guarantee that racial profiling will not occur. Security trumps civil rights and liberties here.

2) Illegals immigrants are leaving Arizona now. Where do you think they are going? Back to Mexico? Heck no, they still gotta work. They're going to other states. Way to go, Arizona, exporting criminals to other states.

3) Taking federal policies into the hands of individual states. Yeah, you're upset, but that doesn't mean you can take power into your own hands. If you're upset at the state of the dollar, will you introduce your own currency? Fuck no. If you're unhappy with the Feds, take it up with them.

This law aims to score political points among white conservatives. Will it reduce crime rates? Probably. But it'll do so at the expense of civil liberties and personal freedoms, particularly for minorities who will inevitably be targeted.

Whites will probably only understand once they are put in the position that minorities are in.
 
Obama's marketing campaign to put himself in office has resulted in the largest magnifying glass in history on the lefties/Democrats/liberals and what their fucked up "idealogy" actually stands for. And that's NOT opinion. That's poll after poll after poll of data.

What type of polls are you talking about? If you look at Obama's approval rating for example, I don't think it has gone below the 40s. Whereas Clinton and Carter got down to the 30s and 20s.
 
Thats when America will have a problem. When it gets its very own and rather large separatist movement. Or at least a population which largely identifies more with a foreign neighbouring country then with the US.

Don't doubt this, folks. Read up on Quebec and it's history in Canada.
 
People aren't complaining about Canadian illegals because they aren't bringing a drug-related crime wave with them.

Yeeeeah. They are. And they are also complaining about legal immigrants since they are fucked up muslims or gypsies. As an aussie you should know. You have your own Leb problem.
 
That sounds racist to me?

How? This is what I am talking about, you guys throwing around racism like its nothing. By calling a spade a spade, I would say something like "Proportionally the number of illegals in this country are heavily from Mexico". That is a fucking fact, no idea why stating things like that are racist.

Carry on though just know you prohibit any intelligent discourse from taking place when you start getting into that for no reason.
 
I hate libtards as much as you do, and both sides have their equal share of fuckfaces.

I agree with you that the race card shouldn't be played as often as Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would have us use it. In fact, being a minority, individual minorities are often more racist towards white people as a group than white individuals are towards minorities.

But the question becomes, how the fuck is the AZ law supposed to practically solve anything? It freaks minorities (legal and illegal) out. It makes white people happy. But what does it do on the ground?

1) If it allows individual agencies to determine what is and isn't "reasonable suspicion" without any specific mechanism in place to guarantee that racial profiling will not occur. Security trumps civil rights and liberties here.

2) Illegals immigrants are leaving Arizona now. Where do you think they are going? Back to Mexico? Heck no, they still gotta work. They're going to other states. Way to go, Arizona, exporting criminals to other states.

3) Taking federal policies into the hands of individual states. Yeah, you're upset, but that doesn't mean you can take power into your own hands. If you're upset at the state of the dollar, will you introduce your own currency? Fuck no. If you're unhappy with the Feds, take it up with them.

This law aims to score political points among white conservatives. Will it reduce crime rates? Probably. But it'll do so at the expense of civil liberties and personal freedoms, particularly for minorities who will inevitably be targeted.

Whites will probably only understand once they are put in the position that minorities are in.

You know I will be honest I haven't looked too much into the law yet, been pretty busy lately so I am sure I have received a lot of misinformation from both sides. It just angers me when I browse through the thread here and I see the one liners "you're racist1111!!!1111!" because while it may be warranted 10% of the time, I know for a fact most of the time it isn't because many people like you said act like the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of this country, using race ANY chance they get.
 
I don't care if immigrants do come in so long as they register as citizens and pay taxes like everyone else. But these bastards that just jump across the border and get free everything need to get OUT. If they want to stay then they need to become citizens and pay taxes like everyone else. And I'm not talking about sales tax - DURRRRR! They need to be gouged all the insane taxes like everyone else is. You want to solve our economic problems? Kick the freeloaders out or make them become citizens so they're not freeloaders anymore.
 
What type of polls are you talking about? If you look at Obama's approval rating for example, I don't think it has gone below the 40s. Whereas Clinton and Carter got down to the 30s and 20s.

Taking up for BO just makes you look stupid. You know as well as EVERYONE that BO has fucked up and is in trouble. To state otherwise just discredits you and makes you look like a partison hack.
 
Those are too many votes. The democrats have used them for votes for years, don't expect it to change anytime soon.

That's not a valid argument. Even if they legalize 12 million illegals, they won't be eligible to vote for another 15 years.

The way the legalization bill is set up, that's how long it takes for them to gain citizenship.
 
That's not a valid argument. Even if they legalize 12 million illegals, they won't be eligible to vote for another 15 years.

The way the legalization bill is set up, that's how long it takes for them to gain citizenship.

Sorry I wasn't clear, I was talking about the people in the country right now (certain dems). Really has nothing to do with this bill, I was just saying when you feed paul by taking from peter, you can always count on the support of paul. The dems know this and they know this well.
 
We're talking about the welfare issue then.

Pertinent to these illegals, the question becomes:

For all these menial laborers who wash dishes, pick fruit and landscape, if we were to legalize them and make them pay taxes, would they be more of a burden on our welfare or less?

I'd rather have these people in the US than the sit at home recipients anyday.
 
I think that they should deport the men and fat Mexican chicks but it seems a darn shame to kick out good hot friendly Latina puzzy. Think about if for just a minute. Lets not get too excited and shoot ourselves in the foot here.

Dudes and fuglies out. Cute tight trim in!