Please post up, this thread of for anything that helps to improve the SBT area. Shitty service would fall into that criteria.
erect the impaler ... why excessive bumping is bad for your sales
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Please post up, this thread of for anything that helps to improve the SBT area. Shitty service would fall into that criteria.
Most of them have already been mentioned somewhere above, but drop:
- anyone with fucking 'seo' in their username who makes it abundantly clear they know nothing about SEO.
- anyone starts a sale thread and makes it to page 2 without a legitimate review (where 'legitimate review' could be good or bad, so long as the review is not some vague cut-paste drivel).
- anyone posting vague, 1-line 'reviews' in above mentioned threads who then go on to start a new thread selling exactly the same thing with verbatim sales copy.
Keep in mind, essentially these people are getting paid to emulate the actions of many hundreds/thousands of unique users and if their sale threads are getting called out so easily, how long do you think your links are gonna stay up?
- anyone with fucking 'seo' in their username who makes it abundantly clear they know nothing about SEO.
- anyone starts a sale thread and makes it to page 2 without a legitimate review (where 'legitimate review' could be good or bad, so long as the review is not some vague cut-paste drivel).
- anyone posting vague, 1-line 'reviews' in above mentioned threads who then go on to start a new thread selling exactly the same thing with verbatim sales copy.
Keep in mind, essentially these people are getting paid to emulate the actions of many hundreds/thousands of unique users and if their sale threads are getting called out so easily, how long do you think your links are gonna stay up?
I've already written over 6+ articles for various people and have more to do. Like I said Zingo, you ignorant son of a bitch, it's a trade. I write the articles but I still have all rights over what is written, so I may link it as a sample. Surely your small minded and biased self can realize that not all deals involve money? Next, I am not in "ties" with another "troll", I'm trying to contribute to this forum. I read the guidelines, I don't believe I violated any rule.
Furthermore, my "WF already hates me" thread was satire and my sense of humor. If you don't like it, go fuck yourself. My jokes are pseudo serious complaints and sarcastic, I think I'm hilarious, thank you very much. The people I've written for seem very satisfied and a few of them want more but to pay me. Good try, Zingo, you closeted son of a bitch. But as others state around here often, "fail".
Furthermore, my "WF already hates me" thread was satire and my sense of humor. If you don't like it, go fuck yourself. My jokes are pseudo serious complaints and sarcastic, I think I'm hilarious, thank you very much. The people I've written for seem very satisfied and a few of them want more but to pay me. Good try, Zingo, you closeted son of a bitch. But as others state around here often, "fail".
Think about getting rid of this guy, or at least getting rid of his services. I don't see them adding any value to the WF community.
http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/101239-mass-serp-linkwheel-must-have.html
You can read my review of the service if you need some additional info on why it sucks.
And the other 2 "reviews" in the thread are bullshit - here and here. This service sucks, plain and simple.
http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/101239-mass-serp-linkwheel-must-have.html
You can read my review of the service if you need some additional info on why it sucks.
And the other 2 "reviews" in the thread are bullshit - here and here. This service sucks, plain and simple.
Whoa... guys... c'mon. Take it easy.
At jdturner11: Here's the deal. A lot of us are trying to take a proactive approach to cleaning up the Sell, Buy & Trade forum. We're figuring this stuff out as we go along. If we see something that appears to be bad for the forum over the long run (I'll get to this in a moment), we're gonna call it out.
I don't think zingo has a problem with your business model of trading free articles for permission to link to - or use - those articles as samples. I think (zingo, tell me to shut up if I'm wrong) he has a problem with trading free articles - or any free service - for itrader points. I do, too. itrader is a great system for vendors and clients to figure out who to do business with, and who to avoid. If everyone tosses itrader points around in exchange for getting free stuff, it makes the system less reliable over the long run.
As for your "hate me" thread in the Shooting The Shit forum, I'll leave that for others more qualified than I to figure out. Tempers were flaring a bit in this thread, and I wanted to suggest we can resolve this without things getting out of hand.
At everyone: as a possible solution to the "itrader for free stuff" issue, maybe we should discourage clients/reviewers from giving them out for free stuff. After all, if the reviewer is leaving a kick-ass review, but doing it in exchange for a free copy, the itrader is irrelevant. It doesn't tell people what it's like to do business with the vendor. And that's a LOT different than getting something for free.
I'm not saying we should implement a rule about giving itraders for free stuff. We could, however, discourage the practice so it happens naturally over time.
Just throwing the idea out there.
Your a fucking troll... you think your above shit... I am thinking your wrong...
Just like I posted in your thread giving free shit and getting iTraders is a conflict of interest, it has been tried here over and over and every fucking troll like yourself has been banned for it... But you think your the exception?
I think you and your buddy yurkio are in the same boat.
You dont add anything to this forum except shit. Anyone can read your threads and figure that out. Crawl back into your troll hole..
This is obviously a fail service, I love it when they ask for money and do not go by the original deal.
Like I said before taking reviews from newb cocksuckers is worthless, the reviewers in this thread need to get temp banned just for good keeping.
I was about to buy his service. It took me 4 hours or so to explain him what I need but guess, I will have to abandon the deal.
Thanks for this
Grammar 101: You would use "you're" in this situation. Just sayin'. Plus, you are the only one complaining, last I checked you are not an entire forum. Nice try pal.
As for iTrader, I'd be willing to not accept iTrader reviews for this, didn't know that was against any rules. This is the first time I used iTrader and I usually get my work by applying places, I don't advertise often.
Wow what does it take to get through to a troll I am impressed on how fast of a learner you are. Great job!!
Now go into your troll thread and let them know about your enlightenment mister grammer cock humm I mean cop now I will get off your ass.. thanks for you cooperation.
zingo may have been the only person pointing it out in your thread, but the practice (not you) has been mentioned multiple times in this thread. You know how it is, jdturner11... we're all trying to run our businesses. Time is severely lacking. I figure if zingo mentions it, there's no need for myself to do the same.
You make a sound point. There's really no rule against the practice. In fact, we're trying to clean up this part of the forum with a minimum of rules since they do little more than cause bloat, and open the door to exploitation. It makes more sense for the community to get involved to shape this forum into something that benefits the majority over time. It's the best way to make sure quality vendors and clients find each other, and get what they want from each other.
jdturner11, you're not the only person giving free stuff for itrader points. It's a widespread issue. It's up to the community and erect to decide whether doing so is appropriate. We'll get it figured out, but it's gonna take some time.
At everyone: what do you guys think about discouraging free itraders in the future? Would it would lead to reviews that provide more value for members, and keep vendors from spinning their wheels for nothing? Would it make the itrader system more reliable for everyone?
Thanks for talking rationally, Jake. I honestly have no issue with not accepting iTrader points, I barely know how it works. The samples are so I can link them in the new resume I'm building. I got recommended to this site from an old employer/client and she said it's a great place to learn - so I said why not.
My point was no iTrader for free services, if you want iTrader make them pay for your service and get a review from a respected member.
Free services do not get accurate feedback aka reviews and other newbs trying to run up there iTrader will be getting free articles just to run up there iTrader numbers so you will be getting games as well.
We have been working on cleaning up the SBT area for a bit now just play along buy the consensus and above board and all is good.
Read through this thread it was getting to be the wild west around here and everyone is pitching in to make it better, much better to be part of the solution and not the problem.
If I seem like a prick it because I have spent quite a hours/days helping to clean up the SBT and my tolerance level gets a little thin sometimes, for that I apologize.
Exactly.
And just a moment ago, I noticed another vendor in the Content forum offering 9 reviews specifically for itrader points (he openly states it). In a month's time, we'll see that vendor has accrued a bunch of itraders, yet nobody will know whether doing business with him is a good idea. That's unfortunate for the community.
Again, there's no rule against it, and there really shouldn't be. It's gonna be frustrating for jdturner11 if he agrees to decline itraders for free stuff when other vendors are openly accepting them.
It'd be wonderful if we could slowly get across the idea to vendors that itrader points exchanged for free stuff mean nothing. Points given that way don't help them. This is where the real work begins, I think. Clearing out the first wave of bad apples was easy. It could be done with a really big club.
Now, we're each gonna need a scalpel.
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