Bitcoin breaks $200

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So the question I have is... Was the frantic drop in value associated with the technical issues (lag) that mtgox experienced yesterday due to simply too many accounts/traffic? It looks like that's what they are saying. And if so, that's just a problem with this particular third party exchange, not really a knock against bitcoin itself.

Note: I'm neither for nor against it (though I do want to see key aspects of it succeed or at least adopted in the future), I don't have a lot of $ in btc. Just curious.
 

Fucking genius. When MtGox reopens at 7PM PST get your popcorn ready for the main event.

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Your typical Redditor on BTC :

This crash will only be catalyst for Bitcoin to rise to its true price of $10,000-$100,000 a coin. As I said in another post, wall street traders have been awake all night anticipating the bottom of the market. There are millions upon millions of fiat dollars that are about to be dumped into the market shortly after trading again begins and the market bottoms. This is a free market; it is a place where the unintelligent cannot survive. The free riders don't need to be coddled and cared for here. Bitcoin is the avenue to a better world.
No one trusts BTC-E and the other exchanges like they do MtGox. What is currently happening on those exchanges isn't at all indicative what is actually occurring in the market.
 
So the question I have is... Was the frantic drop in value associated with the technical issues (lag) that mtgox experienced yesterday due to simply too many accounts/traffic?

It's simply supply and demand. Not enough buyers to cover the selling.

The tech issues just add to the panic.
 
Can anyone more experienced please explain to me why folks are doing technical analysis on the charts of bitcoins? How is that relevant at all? Or are we still pretending this is a real market...?
 
Can anyone more experienced please explain to me why folks are doing technical analysis on the charts of bitcoins? How is that relevant at all? Or are we still pretending this is a real market...?

The only ones doing tech analysis on the charts are the pumpers in denial trying to justify the outrageous swings of a worthless commodity.
 
As Big Investors Emerge, Bitcoin Gets Ready for its Close-Up - NYTimes.com


The 31-year old identical twins have amassed since last summer what appears to be one of the single largest portfolios of the online currency that has caused such a stir in financial and technology circles.

An array of speculators have now bid up the price of the bitcoin to the point where the outstanding supply of the digital money was worth $1.3 billion at last count. The Winklevii — as they are popularly known — say they own nearly 1 percent of that, or some $11 million.

inb4 Winklevoss lawsuit
 
The only ones doing tech analysis on the charts are the pumpers in denial trying to justify the outrageous swings of a worthless commodity.

As soon as I saw somebody say "It's been above $200 for almost a full day, so it's obviously not a bubble" (paraphrased) I realized something...

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Some people actually think that technical analysis works.

Actually, this rise and fall are following very typical technical patterns. Patterns exist because markets are emotional and emotions exist and the actions from those emotions create predictable patterns.

Like today. The stock fell right to $50 and bounced. It will fall to $50 again soon.

Now to predict that bitcoin will grow to be worth XYZ based a technical analysis is false technical analysis.

But to predict where it will rise and fall in the patterns it is in right now, is pretty easy to do.
 
Actually, this rise and fall are following very typical technical patterns. Patterns exist because markets are emotional and emotions exist and the actions from those emotions create predictable patterns.

Like today. The stock fell right to $50 and bounced. It will fall to $50 again soon.

Now to predict that bitcoin will grow to be worth XYZ based a technical analysis is false technical analysis.

But to predict where it will rise and fall in the patterns it is in right now, is pretty easy to do.

No, patterns exist because humans have a tendency to identify patterns in randomness. Chaos makes us uneasy.

It's easy to point out a pattern after the fact because you can pick and choose which method to use to best fit the data.

There's a reason there are few, if any, long term successful technical analysis dudes. There are some who kill it during booms, of course, but basically none will survive through the inevitable crash and followup booms.
 
Can anyone more experienced please explain to me why folks are doing technical analysis on the charts of bitcoins? How is that relevant at all? Or are we still pretending this is a real market...?

Technical analysis becomes relevant when enough people use it. Although using it with the Bitcoin market is obviously quite different when comparing it with real companies that have outstanding shares, earnings, etc.

We are talking a fixed supply of currency. If I was trying to make some $$ with guessing the floor of the price of bitcoins I'd be looking at where the big momentum investors jumped in and started really moving the needle.

You can see in the chart below that the masses and/or deep pocket individuals started buying up big blocks around the $20 mark and the hyperbole bubble really got going at in the $40-$50 range.

Now I personally wouldn't put a dime into this ridiculousness but if I had to guess where the short-term bottom is, I'd say it's around the $20-$40 range. The Bitcoin fanboy's will be back and with a fixed supply the hoarders will likely drive the price back up.

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