Attention Guerilla (and the politicalized horde).

[guerilla]

But what I am saying is that we can never reach the point of a truly free market as you described. And if all we do is remove government regulations, then we are left with equally strong forces that will continue to prevent a "free market". But those remaining forces work almost exclusively for those individuals with the most influence. We are still not free.

You still do not understand what I think I have explained clearly. I am not promoting a Utopian free market. Utopia is a fantasy.

When you remove the government which is the biggest drag on the system, you end up with a lot of smaller drags, which are much easier to avoid, or work around, or remove.

We want the successful people in a society to have influence, and the unsuccessful people to not have influence. The government allows the unsuccessful/cheaters/liars/crooks/scammers/monopolists to prosper, whereas in a market, people who are unsuccessful go bankrupt.

Yes, the market will not be perfect. But I never claimed it would be. I am saying without equivocation, that voluntary relations are necessary for a rational price system, without which, an economy cannot function.

The state constantly intervenes in voluntary relations and distorts the price system.

I think you are missing my point. I completely agree with your assessment of a free market. I think we actually agree on a lot of things.

We may agree on some things, but not a lot of things.