Ask someone who has been here for awhile but has failed anything...

What you need to do is learn to rank easy shit. Pick a .com EMD with 300-500 searches per month and learn to rank it in the top 3 results. Once you learn how to rank easy shit just learn how to monetize then rinse and repeat. Adsense is the easiest way and will at least motivate you enough to keep going. Just keep in mind that Adsense is only one way and there are far better ways to monetize traffic.

Keep it simple dude and get some small victories under your belt. Everything you need to know to start making money is on this forum.
 


This thread is great.

My biggest issue is focus as well. I'm full of ideas, every week I've got something new. I know something will hit but I need to slow down sometimes and just do.
 
my passive income stream is coming to an end after 2 years. i'm really struggling to find something to replace it...
 
Jinxus said:
*ran a PPC campaign on Facebook one time with a $70 coupon... made about $65 back
*abused the Facebook like feature when it first came out. Made $300, should've made close to $600, but BidVertiser closed my account because my site went down due to an overload of traffic before they could "review" the site
*closest to success I've come is last year when I had a website. for the first 3 months or so, I made about .50 cents a day, but then it stopped. In the last 4 months, I made the site go viral. Was making $15/day with Adsense, but my host shut down the site 20 days before the contract ended. Didn't really care about the site because it never really made money. They shut it down 4 days after I started making $15/day so I hadn't thought to make backups yet. Lost everything.

feels like I should be more successful than I have been :( If only I could make $30/day.

such is life in soviet russia. feelsbadman
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ALL THAT since 09? Seriously?
 
metalshark said:
ALL THAT since 09? Seriously?
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Decided to quote only this reply of all thread.

TRY MORE, OP! And FB and PPV is not easy at all. POF - maybe, not that one. Start with individual media buys or small PPC campaign on Bing, or some not that big seo project for some niche monetising adsense/affiliates
 
avatar33 said:
Haha yeah I can see that. I think in many people's heads, being a mod at WF automatically means you shit in a gold toilet...

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I DO in fact, shit in a golden crapper. It just is not from AM/SEO.

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Jinxus said:
*ran a PPC campaign on Facebook one time with a $70 coupon... made about $65 back
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This is the problem right here. A campaign that cost $70 and made $65 back is a high potential campaign dude!!! Most campaigns that I run SERIOUS bank on I drop at least $500 in LOSSES before I optimize it to profit and then scale it to the moon.

When you see a campaign that almost breaks even when you haven't optimized it usually indicates a winner.

Also that campaign that you ran with the coupon was actually a zero outlay with a $65 profit, so you did make money. And in terms of ROI you made 10000s of %. It just shows you that you CAN make money.
 
nickster said:
This is the problem right here. A campaign that cost $70 and made $65 back is a high potential campaign dude!!! Most campaigns that I run SERIOUS bank on I drop at least $500 in LOSSES before I optimize it to profit and then scale it to the moon.

When you see a campaign that almost breaks even when you haven't optimized it usually indicates a winner.

Also that campaign that you ran with the coupon was actually a zero outlay with a $65 profit, so you did make money. And in terms of ROI you made 10000s of %. It just shows you that you CAN make money.
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This + This.
 
nickster said:
This is the problem right here. A campaign that cost $70 and made $65 back is a high potential campaign dude!!! Most campaigns that I run SERIOUS bank on I drop at least $500 in LOSSES before I optimize it to profit and then scale it to the moon.

When you see a campaign that almost breaks even when you haven't optimized it usually indicates a winner.

Also that campaign that you ran with the coupon was actually a zero outlay with a $65 profit, so you did make money. And in terms of ROI you made 10000s of %. It just shows you that you CAN make money.
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:( too bad that was a long time ago on Facebook. I've heard that Facebook has changed a lot of their policies now and pretty much made it impossible to run the type of campaign I was running. Since then, I've tried to run a few POF campaigns but have failed hard as in terrible CTR's and no conversions.

Vadym said:
mfa sites for the win, bro. make millions.
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is mfa a new term around here? still haven't quite figured out what it means
 
Jinxus said:
:( too bad that was a long time ago on Facebook. I've heard that Facebook has changed a lot of their policies now and pretty much made it impossible to run the type of campaign I was running.
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Facepalm!!

That's not what I meant. Not to go back and try to get it working, but just to realize that it WAS working, but you just needed to stick at it and from there you could have had a very profitable campaign. So next time you have a break even campaign like that DON'T give up. I doubt any one here who makes good money hits a profitable campaign right off the bat. you just need to recognize when you have something that is workable and not to end up flogging a dead horse when it is not.

The best advice I can give to you is to look around and see what you are seeing running consistently (over a space of time) and then realize that if it is running then someone is making money from it and dedicate your time to finding out how by testing and testing.

The problem that most people make is to try something and then quit when it isn't working and blame it on the offer/network/traffic, but it is the people who say "well, others are making it work, so there is no reason I can't" and then putting in the hard work and not quitting until they have got it working or at the very least learned some very important lessons, that are the ones who are banking hard.

Pick something and stick at it until you get it working.
 
emp said:
Hahaha... I am on a similar boat.

I make money, but mostly by local web design/development and SEO services.
Some from affiliate sales, but not as much as I'd like to.
Have not found my "passive income stream" yet.

Jumping around on projects is one big factor, me doing this only part time another (I have a 9-5 I am not gonna give up too soon).

2012 is gonna rock tho... err... really, right? Ya know?

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PS: Sorry to disappoint all those who thought I am mad balling outta control.
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmgcjRu1s-8]LIES!!! - YouTube[/ame]
 
efeezy said:
In my mind there's about 4 ways that most of will go to make moneiez on the interwebz.

1. Build sites around a products that you can make commissions on.
2. Build sites that you can sell advertising on, adsense, etc.
3. Build sites & do SEO work for others who haven't a fucking clue about either.
4. Build your own service or product and promote that to make money.

That being said, no matter which you jump into you better at least have some basic skills in setting up some kind of website, be it Wordpress or otherwise, and in basic graphics manipulation. Aside from that, this shit isn't rocket science. Any idiot with a brain can do a WP install and get a site up and running. It's identifying the products & niches that are worth your time that's the tricky part. Do your research. Find a product that is being underpromoted, but has some demand. Make that project your baby and build it out all the way. Don't stray off onto other projects or ideas that will take you away from that. Focus on that one thing and find ways to make it better. I dont' care if you make a site that pushes coffee makers on Amazon, that shit can make money if you go into it 110%. Once you've either had some mild success or been a complete failure, hopefully you'll have a better understanding of what you should do on the next one. But give it time to succeed or fail. Don't bail on it after two weeks when you haven't made a sale. Now go fucking do something instead of worrying about why your'e not making money.
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Solid advice, but disagree on the required skillset. Wordpress installs and graphic manipulations can be outsourced for peanuts.

Like you said (for the most part) niche selection, establishing a USP in order to compete effectively, and a solid marketing plan are the real skills needed. And those can't be easily outsourced.

In the end, if you can identify markets (or more correctly stated, niches within markets you know are spending money), understand their needs, and provide them a solution, you'll make bank. And that shit is mostly evergreen and can be quite passive too.
 
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