Are you in a better place than you were 5 years ago?

Dang bro, you've been at it a long time. I started back in 07 and stopped in 11, so roughly 4 years.

You fuckers have stronger stomachs than me because the way CL was raped back in the day with CPA offers was as close to a scam as it comes and I couldn't go through it even though the volume was insane and easy money basically guaranteed.
 


You fuckers have stronger stomachs than me because the way CL was raped back in the day with CPA offers was as close to a scam as it comes and I couldn't go through it even though the volume was insane and easy money basically guaranteed.

I actually owned the offer, which was 100% legitimate. But, yes there was a ton of scammy shit dudes were pulling off.
 
Deferentially I am better than 5 years ago, I was going through hell economically and be keeping positive and always looking for a solution to everything I managed to survive and move on to be in a better place now but I still have a long path to walk to get where I want.
 
I disagree because the Myspace lawsuit wasn't my first rodeo so I was used to this sort of thing already and was mentally prepared for it. I didn't need a reality check from the sheriff.

How long have you been doing that sort of thing before CL hit you? I've been at it since the 90s back on AOL.


I still see a lot of that going on with CL, is still being Spammed to death and CL keeps on sending out papers for lawsuits?
 
I actually owned the offer, which was 100% legitimate. But, yes there was a ton of scammy shit dudes were pulling off.

Yeah, but the legitimacy of the offer doesn't really matter if it's promoted in a scummy way. Like the way credit report offers were used on CL as a "verification process" to see if the buyer was serious.
 
Deferentially I am better than 5 years ago, I was going through hell economically and be keeping positive and always looking for a solution to everything I managed to survive and move on to be in a better place now but I still have a long path to walk to get where I want.

Weren't you banned by Jon a few days ago?
 
Co-incidentally it was bowel cancer my wife had, so relate to a lot of what you are saying.

A couple of friends have Crohn's as well, it's nasty. Good to hear your doing ok. It will be interesting to see what comes of growing organs etc, looks like we'll be in a different world in 10, 20 years time.

Yeah those digestive tract things really hit hard. Really sorry to hear about your situation but hopefully the time is helping a bit. I really have no clue what it must be like to go through something like that and am lucky in comparison big time.

Man, I can relate to that. I felt like a million bucks after surgery, adopted a DGAF lifestyle after losing all my $$$ and started over. And people treat you so much differently if you have some visible marks from surgery.

I started a new job 9 days later. I have a big hole in my skull where you can stick your finger through the bone. Those surgeons are morbid as hell, chopping you up with power tools.

Yeah it's something you have to experience to fully understand. It's not like you want to look more sick, it's nice to still be young and good looking after all. But it's just frustrating to be in so much pain in general.

They sure are morbid, I got my take done by a super surgeon in the field and he had a flock of fellowship doctors with him always following him like little inters. One time they came in after the surgery and poked around a bit and shortly after they left I realized I was soaked in blood so I called the nurse to get them back while they were still on the same floor. When they came back in one of his underlings went to work on me ASAP while he stood there and said, "Don't worry we have a saying in surgery, all bleeding stops... eventually." then winked at me.

I remember when we met up in ( man its been sooo long, was it SF or SD? 2008 or 2009? ) you told me about this during our lunch with you and your GF.

I was thinking to myself that you look pretty good for such a condition.

Glad to hear things have changed for you and they seem to be heading in a better direction hopefully.

I know your out of Cali now, so when I make a connecting flight in your state again, lets hook up.

2010 I think it was in both SD and SF. SD at the A4D thing than that dinner in SF. It's definitely been to long hit me up when your passing through Vegas!

Both times you met me I was post major surgery and had a colostomy bag, could you even tell? It was definitely a time when I was feeling very good. Well besides the next morning in SD after drinking to much...

The main people that wouldn't believe I was actually sick was the DA's office trying to throw me in jail for possession of marijuana and calling my medical condition BS pretty much. After dragging things along for over a year and wasting so much of my time/money they dropped it the first court date after I was out of the hospital. $10,000+ of my dollars lost not to mention 100+ hours of time probably but a I certainly learned quite a bit.

That was a real eye opening post. With the colostomy bag was there ever any leakage issues? Or does it work out well with proper maintenance?

Damn sorry to hear that the J-pouch is so cumbersome for you. Hopefully it'll improve for you over time. Was that an elective surgery?

If the J-pouch doesn't improve for you, can you go back to the colostomy bag until something better comes along?

This thread is probably the best thread of 2015.

For leakage it's pretty much black and white. 99% of the time there is no leakage and it's all fine. The adhesive stuff was powerful and I'd change it every 5-7 days, those first 2 days it was on good. The 1% of the time there is leakage it gets pretty bad. I ripped it off myself moving around sleeping a few times and that was a huge mess but those were really the only leakage times. It would be caused when the bag filled up to fast with pure liquid because by body was doing something a little wrong, a mostly empty bag would never come off, it would happen when it fills up like a balloon without my knowledge while I was sleeping. I did a ton of skiing with it and took it easy because I was worried a bad fall could get very messy but fortunately never any issue.

It was elective although insurance covers it and everything. I imagine if I continue to have issues I could get them to go back to the bag and make insurance pay for it. I'll definitely give it some more years before that at this point but it is something I've though about in the future 5-10 years off.

Also to address your other post about the CL/Myspace lawsuits. Sure you dealt with Myspace awesome, but wasn't it a bit shocking the first time it happened to you prior to Myspace? Even being prepared it can be a bit scary the first time, a little fear in fact in that situation is probably healthy(would have helped Martin I bet). But after you've gone through it a full time you have more confidence in your plan and what's going on.

My mom has Crohn's disease and I think yours is more extreme case of it, she did try some Indian herbal medication that helped a lot, if I get the name of it, ill pm you, she's not in the states at the moment, but major motivational post, Thanks

Thanks hope she continues to do well! Mine was manageable at different times but just got out of control and caused to much damage at one point. I was being to much of a "tough guy" and fighting through pain I shouldn't have been pretty much.

There are definitely times you should be getting better medicine and not fighting through pain and I learned that lesson the hard way.

Part of my problem of not getting better medical treatment probably came from my IM success in the first half of 2009 actually. It's easy to feel a false since of invincibility when you are making tons of money all of a sudden out of no where. I might not have spent the money on stupid stuff but I definitely had a false confidence over how much control I had over my health.

That's another important lesson, don't let a big IM campaign or two go to your head. Stay humble and realistic about what you know and what you don't. It's easy to be over confident and think you must know more than anyone that makes 1/20 of the money you do.

Thanks for all the positive comments though guys this forum was a great support for me even when I had the first surgery back in 2009.
 
They sure are morbid, I got my take done by a super surgeon in the field and he had a flock of fellowship doctors with him always following him like little inters. One time they came in after the surgery and poked around a bit and shortly after they left I realized I was soaked in blood so I called the nurse to get them back while they were still on the same floor. When they came back in one of his underlings went to work on me ASAP while he stood there and said, "Don't worry we have a saying in surgery, all bleeding stops... eventually." then winked at me.

Oh man that is creeeepy.


Also to address your other post about the CL/Myspace lawsuits. Sure you dealt with Myspace awesome, but wasn't it a bit shocking the first time it happened to you prior to Myspace? Even being prepared it can be a bit scary the first time, a little fear in fact in that situation is probably healthy(would have helped Martin I bet). But after you've gone through it a full time you have more confidence in your plan and what's going on.

Nah there's nothing to be afraid of when it comes to civil lawsuits. You can't be thrown into prison for it normally unless there's also a parallel criminal investigation, which can sometimes happen for if you committed fraud and there's strong evidence of it.

Also to address your other post about the CL/Myspace lawsuits. Sure you dealt with Myspace awesome, but wasn't it a bit shocking the first time it happened to you prior to Myspace? Even being prepared it can be a bit scary the first time, a little fear in fact in that situation is probably healthy(would have helped Martin I bet). But after you've gone through it a full time you have more confidence in your plan and what's going on.


What would really terrify me is losing an important organ such as my colon, liver, kidneys, etc and having to go through major life changing surgery like you did. Cancer also terrifies me. You sir are braver than me. I'm actually really scared of stuff you've experienced. Everyone has their fears, and mine tend to be more of a medical nature. Lawsuits don't scare me. It's a part of doing business sometimes.
 
However I do find criminal investigations disturbing because your liberty is in danger, but even a criminal investigation seems like nothing compared to a life changing or life ending medical nightmare. Ugh.

Also I accidentally pasted your post unquoted into my post. My bad. I was really frazzled over the psychopathic surgeon making jokes about you potentially bleeding to death!
 
Financially, which is the only thing relevant here I guess, nope. 2010 was my best year ever. I made a lot of mistakes and bad decisions along the way. But I'm still in my 20s, I have no debt and I don't pay rent. I'm in a better position than a lot people I know and I hope all of the shit I've learned so far will come in handy one day.

I was offered a 9-5 job recently that pays well but fuck that shit! I made it once on my own, I can make it again.
 
On the whole, I think I'm better off, but struggling in some areas.

5 years ago I was just leaving college, signing up for my first 'career' and about to have my first kid. It was a job I knew I wouldn't do forever, but also knew it could be lucrative. I stayed around long enough to get what I needed out of the job (some cash, some credibility, and some ideas). Around that time, found WF.

WF, actually, is responsible for me resigning my position and moving towards the online space (passive thanks, Jon, although we've never spoken). I always had interest in it, but didn't know a Ctrl button from an Alt. The way I made it work was to grow a local business using my previous credentials and utilizing a website I built on my own, and now it's become a nationally expanding business. Fun stuff. I have a few really great relationships which I cherish, but definitely need more (professionally speaking).

Personally, I think I'm a little worse off. I don't do the things I love anymore (although I've added a few fun hobbies I never thought I'd do). I'm in worse shape, physically. And emotionally, I have a desire to find 'who I really am' but lack the capacity to do so for some reason; fucking weird psychologically to know you are DESTINED to do something great but keep getting that tip of the tongue feeling. As much as it drives me forward, it drives me insane. That meditation, bruh.

To answer the question, l am older and wiser, with a bit more pocket money from online investments, but still trying to reach the end of the rainbow.

Since 2010, (or 2008, to be more accurate) l have tried website development, name lists, PPC, affiliate marketing and software development to name a few, but no real long term viability.

At the moment it is all font creation, since there is big bucks in that, but l am still chasing that one.

Tried flyers, for the last few years, but it is oversatured, and not that profitable.

So, yeah, mainly concentrating on fonts and sites with their own traffic, since Adwords, is a tough nut to crack.



Yes I am. I work harder now that I ever worked before because I only want to succeed.

Yep, sounds like me, every opportunity l am working on it, and will throw everything at it, trying to get the site to consider it for their giant list?


Financially, which is the only thing relevant here I guess, nope. 2010 was my best year ever. I made a lot of mistakes and bad decisions along the way. But I'm still in my 20s, I have no debt and I don't pay rent. I'm in a better position than a lot people I know and I hope all of the shit I've learned so far will come in handy one day.

I was offered a 9-5 job recently that pays well but fuck that shit! I made it once on my own, I can make it again.

Yes, just read about retirement today in AU, basically most Australians who retire, (because of interest rates) will have to spend all their money and go on the pension, and do this about 13 years before they die.

13 years, of basic utilities, (electricity being the worst) and house and medical all increasing, but the pension hardly moving, seems to be a pretty grim outlook.

But that is the work ethic, enjoy yourself while you are working, piss away your 100k, when you reach 70, then go on the pension, and a few years distant, life gets hard.

Everyone needs a backup plan, and it is refreshing to see it in full force here. Obviously not easy if you are married with kids, but it needs to be done.

:cool2:
 
Well, I'm still committed to success over here :)

Last year was our best year ever - and 2016 looking to match that or top it.

No pressure, right? :/

The connections made over the last 5 or 6 years have been invaluable. Clients, friendships and partnerships are the best part of networking.
 
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Killing it...
 
Socially? Not so much. This work from home thing is not doing great things for my social life. I'm thinking more and more that the best thing for me would be to open a physical office and hire actual people to work for me. This would force me to develop some leadership skills and learn to physically lead a team. I feel like if I keep working from home I'm gonna end up like one of those misfits living with a bunch of cats and leaving the house only at night to avoid social interactions. lol

I feel you here. I just recently got back into the work-at-home business as a marketing consultant. A couple of years ago, I tried going back into the corporate world, because i was starting to become socially awkward. I have been working as an online writer and email marketing consultant for years, and most client meetings were done through Skype. Because I was so comfortable working alone and staying at home, I started dodging calls from friends. I was actually too lazy to dress up!

However, once I was back out there, I felt that the 9-5 scene does not really work for me. To remedy my social awkwardness, I made it a point to go out with friends every week. During the day, even while working at home, I would sometimes dress up and put on make-up for Skype meetings. It may sound weird, but it actually worked! Now i regularly go out and sometimes I even bring my laptop to coffee shops just so I am around other people while working.