Anyone here have any experience with Fed prison?

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I only ask because while there is a good chance none of our members do, maybe they know someone that does.

I've been stressing like a motherfucker lately about this shit, and it would be nice to get some first-hand advice, or, well, fuck... Just talk about this shit.

One of my closest friends, who I am closer to than my own brothers, is about to do some major time for trying to look at nudie self-shots of teens on the interwebz.

I've been working probably 30+ hours a week lately on trying to find relevant case law to try and prepare for his stupid fucking attorney (got the best he could afford, but it isn't much) who seems to have no solid experience in Federal courts, plus trying to prepare myself and other friends for losing him.

His actual charge is "Possession of child pornography" and according to the most recent paperwork (United States Probation/Pretrial Release Sentencing Recommendations) that was drawn up for his case and submitted, it looks like at the end of April, he is going away for 8 years.

I'm afraid he won't make it through, and these may be the last 2 months I'll ever spend with him, and at the risk of sounding like a bitch, its breaking my fucking heart.

Anyways... I've been trying to stuff as much shit in his head as I can before he goes, to try and prepare him as best as I can, but I know people with "sexual crimes against children" aren't really treated well in prison.

So, anyone ever gone to club Feb? I know there has to be someone here with a white collar stain on their record! haha

Advice? Recommendations? Input? Shit talking? Let it flow.

EDIT:
Right after I submitted this, I realized that people might ask for a little further clarification of the charges, so I'll just try to expand on that a little.

He was 26 when he got raided by the FBI in late 2010. No criminal record, a clean service record for the US military where he was honorably discharged for military-caused hearing loss, has always been an average and steady hard worker with a shit job. I've known him for 6 years. He is gay, but you would never fucking know it if he didn't tell you. He has dated a few times, but is rather timid when it comes to taking charge and getting laid, and thus, he is still a virgin.

He isn't like us, in that he has a very basic understanding of computers, and uses them accordingly. As anyone around from the Skittles era of WF will know quite well, if you wanna see a 16 year old chick snap titty pics on her iPhone, you don't need to look very hard to find them in abundance. Well, apparently the opposite isn't quite the same. So, he used a file sharing program to try and download and thus view images (a newb mistake I'll never forgive him for). He downloaded mostly zip and rar archives of teens.

Anyone that has done this (don't lie, we all downloaded porn at one time or another from shit like Limewire back in the day) knows as well as I do that you don't always get what the title implies.

He also didn't understand how P2P worked, and that everything he downloaded was also being shared. So, downloaded archives of 'teens' thinking 16-20 year olds, looked at probably 5% of the images (in my old porn experience, archives contain hundreds, if not thousands, of files) and went on about his business. One of the archives contained 110 or so images of 'children' (from the evidence I've been able to get his attorney to provide, these were 13-14 year olds, and comprised nearly exclusively of nudity, but not abuse/sex/sexual acts), and another multi GB archive of videos he downloaded contained 74 "questionable" video files, with three of them being confirmed children. One video contained a 13 year old with his hands bound, and that is what nailed him to the cross.

An agent in NY (we are in the southwest) was searching for illegal files by connecting>grabbing files and got one of these archives from his computer (now it is distribution across state lines).

Warrant was issued, raid took place, everything seized, etc etc etc

US filed indictment for possession and for distribution.

Was offered a plea of only possession, and took it.

In explaining all of this to anyone that hasn't been in the middle of the whole situation, I feel akin to a mother trying to defend her sons character and saying "my boy is a good boy!", but it isn't like that.

He fucked up, and he indeed did intend to look at underage images, but the really young shit was a fluke, it's not what he's into, and I do know that for a fact.

I know I'll probably catch a lot of shit here, but sometimes you cunts can be quite level-headed and rational people, so I figured why the fuck not try. :)
 
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Anyways... I've been trying to stuff as much shit in his head as I can before he goes, to try and prepare him as best as I can, but I know people with "sexual crimes against children" aren't really treated well in prison. .

^^^ Basically, this..

Kiddy porn though? Really? Not cool.

EDIT/Disclaimer: I have no prison experience.
 
those stupid kinds of pictures are everywhere, arent they? there are a million Jessie Slaughters online

that sucks

however, it could just be a much more serious situation just played down like that

there are a lot of anon creeps online. i remember when I used to have to work at a cyber cafe down here in mexico and you could see what the person before you was downloading and visiting. lets just say to NEVER let a fat old bald guy babysit your kids.

pretty sad
 
I'm assuming he was searching for shit like "preteen nudes" or something similar? Or was searching for jailbait shit and then found questionably aged pics of girls? I'm no lawyer but I would imagine directly searching for underage porn versus stumbling across it makes a big difference
 
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It seems like either

1) he was looking at a bit more than "nudie self shots"

or

2) he'd been looking at a metric fuckton of "nudie self shots"

to get the interest of a prosecutor.

Doesn't seem like they'd go after someone over just a few .jpgs.

At any rate, I doubt there's much you can do to prepare him for prison other than the last few minutes of the 25th hour:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8elKC-DLS8]25th Hour-You all came so close to never happening-ending - YouTube[/ame]
 
LOL. I remember my dating ads being rejected from Christian mingle because the non-nude hotties I had 'looked too young' - "Some of these girls look 13!".

Know why I was trying to use those images?

Because they had the highest CTR on Facebook in previous campaigns.




aka you're ALL perverts and click on them!
 
I have a friend who did like 3.5 years for sexual assault on a minor. It was bogus shit like your friend is going through, he was finger banging a girl he thought was 18+ (met her at a club) turns out she was 15 and he was 26 i think. Father found out about it and she turned on him saying he got her drunk at the bar then took her home etc. It was he said vs she said situation and he lost.

This is the stuff he's told me from our numerous conversations:

1. If he has a vice, quit now. Don't smoke, don't do drugs, don't drink etc. It's a sure way to get in debt.

2. Don't trust any one. If you get beat up then someone offers protection, it's the dood who offers protection that had someone beat you up.

3. Try to get a job while inside. It makes the time go quicker.

4. Don't be disresectful and don't take disrespect. You don't have to shank a guy cause he stepped on your shoes, but if someone steps on your shoes don't turn around and apologize to him.

5. Get a full medical, dental cleaning, etc etc before he goes in. The medical care on the inside is terrible.

He doesn't need to tell anyone what his crime was. My friend said he told a few people the story of what happened and he was never targeted as a child molester. The people who are targeted are either involved in famous crimes or they brag to people like their cell mate about the crimes they've done. If he's a normal guy and holds his own, no one is going to single him out because he looked at 16 year old girls on the internet. This is in Canada, I don't know where you are - could be different there.

Last but not least if his lawyer isn't competent he should fire him. You don't want to spend 8 years in federal prison because your lawyer wasn't experienced.
 
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1) Your friend should watch a shit load of OZ to get himself ready.
2) Learn how to make weapons from common house hold items.
 
I hope he doesn't have a family because a friend of mine's husband (we were in the church band growing up too, but I never liked the guy) is going to "club fed" for the same thing plus lewd and lascivious acts (he was fondling and sexting as the girl's youth pastor) and it's been devastating for her and the kids.

No offense, but fuck your friend; they don't just prosecute anyone who randomly came across that kiddie porn picture that someone posted on 4chan. He's going to do real well in prison, he'll never feel alone.

Oh, and never been in an American prison.
 
Oh my bad.. looking at 13 year old girls taking nude pics of themselves is totally ok to you?

You can't punish them all the same way, I mean it's way worse if the kid is forced into it and held against their will and stripped of their innocence like traditional cheese pizza, but if it's self shots then their innocence is already gone and they aren't forced into anything. My girlfriend sent me nudies when we were in high school, should I be in federal prison? (that's of course different than searching for underage shit on the web, that's more shady)
 
Give me a few minutes to read everyones responses, and until then, please read the EDIT that I added to the OP to further explain the CP shit.
 
You can't punish them all the same way, I mean it's way worse if the kid is forced into it and held against their will and stripped of their innocence like traditional cheese pizza, but if it's self shots then their innocence is already gone and they aren't forced into anything. My girlfriend sent me nudies when we were in high school, should I be in federal prison? (that's of course different than searching for underage shit on the web, that's more shady)

But there's probably more to the story, he probably did some real questionable searches and they flagged him and tracked him for a while to build a case. Honestly, I would get some plastic surgery and make a break for mexico to live my life as a drifter who solves mysteries out of a van, what is there to lose at this point?

It's fucked up either way.. thats all im saying. Obviously I think there is more to the story.. I highly doubt he was singled out because he looked at 1 random self-shot of a 17 year old.

And we're talking about grown men looking at teens, not some 13 year old and his girlfriend :/