I wouldn't exactly say 'Hawkish' (though 'tippytoe' comes to mind).
Is he really going to give Texas to Al Qeada? I better get out of here.
30,000 More Troops To Afghanistan
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I wouldn't exactly say 'Hawkish' (though 'tippytoe' comes to mind).
Is he really going to give Texas to Al Qeada? I better get out of here.
I won't bore you with arguments against our commitment to the Afghan theater. There are many, and not enough time to do them justice.
However, from the perspective of the commitment's impact on Obama's future political leverage, Zelizer has a few interesting points here...
Obama faces risk of a wartime presidency - CNN.com
And mildly related, here's a great read for those who may be suspicious of the profit-making ventures made possible by war...
WAR IS A RACKET - Major General Smedley D. Butler - USMC Retired
However, from the perspective of the commitment's impact on Obama's future political leverage, Zelizer has a few interesting points here...
Obama faces risk of a wartime presidency - CNN.com
And mildly related, here's a great read for those who may be suspicious of the profit-making ventures made possible by war...
WAR IS A RACKET - Major General Smedley D. Butler - USMC Retired
No, I'd say hawkish. He was the first to suggest sending predators into Pakistan to take out high priority targets and he got slammed for it. Soon after, that's exactly what Bush did, sent predators over the Pakistani border.
He said he would immediately send thousands of troops into afgahnistan after taking office, he ordered 17,000 I think within the first month of taking office. He's now ordering 30k more.
If that's not hawkish then what is?
Evidently you didn't really listen to the platform that BO ran on (just like most of his voters). While he did say he wanted out in Iraq, he stated that afghanistan was the war that we needed to be in. He promised to escalate the war and destroy the enemy. He is just living up to his campaign promises.
Next time you might ignore the tingle running up your leg for the candidate and actually inform yourself on his policy, before voting for him.
So if he decided to pull out he'd a raving liberal al Queda wannabe. Now that he's carrying out your preferred agenda, he's politicized it and using the troops for his own gains.
Is there any way to do right by popeye?
The liberal elitism is wearing me very thin. I was wondering who was going to take over for Riddar when she's gone.
1) I made his exact point, which he either ignored, missed, or didn't understand
2) He again made a point its a bad thing that Barack Obama is educated, he used "attending classes" as a knock on him. I don't give a fuck who you are, having degrees from Columbia and Harvard is not a bad thing. It will never be a bad thing.
You get sick of liberal elitism, I get sick of celebrated ignorance. I will take extreme issue with anyone who thinks thats that being a community organizer or highly educated is a negative. I know its a page out of Karl Rove's playbook (turning positives into negatives) but it doesn't fly with me.
Let the dogs of war lose. Why go in and "PLAY WAR". All these idiots stating that we can't win. The Brits and the Russians couldn't! Untie the hands of the trained killers that have been sent there and they will get the job done and be home in a year.
It's the reason we lost Vietnam. It's the reason the Iraq war dragged on and it will eventually be the reason we lose the current conflict.
Having a few degrees and being a community organizer is not the experience needed to make a President.
I can't believe that you are even arguing this.
Its also not a bad thing you fucking tard.
PS he was also a law professor, a representative, and a Senator. Good thing you didn't mention any of that.
A good friend of mine who is a ranking officer in the national guard drunkenly volunteered to go to Afghanistan the other night. I'm not happy about it. He's another Iraq vet that just wasn't the same when he came back (the second time).
I'll take Rove's book over Rahm Emanuel's (never let a crisis go to waste) any day. At least I know Rove won't be stabbing a table with a steak knife screaming my name in public or sending me dead fish in the mail like some wannabe gangster.
Well sure it's not a BAD thing! but real life experience (running a business, being in the millitary etc.) is more important. I know plenty of people with advanced degrees that are really book smart but dumb as rocks when it comes to real life.
He was a Senator for what....like 2.5 years and he had 129 "PRESENT" votes. I think (as well as the majority of Americans) his track record so far shows that he is way over his head.
Actually a pity that nobody did bring up the "law professor" part. After all, isn't that where he met all of his socialist friends?
don't we have enough problems and deficits in our own country to tend to? our "house" isn't exactly clean.
Burning poppy fields and emboldening our enemies. Oh yeah, and terrorizing/raping innocent people according to Jon Kerry.