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ROIShare said:
Hey,

Step 5, now once the accounts have their memberships; you would give back the accounts. On AFF accounts, you will profit $95/account; and on the HR accounts, you'll profit $65.
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You said give BACK the accounts. You're giving the accounts to the people on the forums, right? But they never received them in the first place, right? I just want to get this clear. This would be the first time your giving them the account, right?

Also, is CJ the only one that promotes AFF and HF offers?
 


-Bill- said:
Dude,
For us-based gift cards, You need to register it - With someone's identity, before you can use it online.
Usually this involves a driver's license number or social security number.

Unless you are getting their approval for registering a financial instrument (i.e. something issued from a real bank - that hold the "prepaid funds" that are to be distributed to the merchant) you are playing around with borderline identity theft.

This is of course a whole different scenario as opposed to getting payed on a sale you damn well know that needs to be generated by the user.

You as an affiliate network should know that advertiser's usually stipulate that leads and sales need to be generated BY THE USER, and can not be entered by you, the affiliate.

Either way, while this may or may not deal with the advertiser losing money on retaining customers who were brought in with a "free-offer" I'll still almost guarantee its against the advertiser's terms as well as borderline ID theft.
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Most of the visa gift card brands do NOT require any social security number or any validating information. You can even change the billing address on the card as many times as you would like. All you do is enter the information and that's it, nothing is verified.

Well yes, some advertisers will impose that the users themselves need to fill out the offers, while others may be lighter. But a lot of this comes down to is if the traffic is converting or not. If a company who requests that offers were filled out by the user has an affiliate who doesn't follow that; but his leads do back up; then the advertiser won't touch him, since his traffic is converting.
 
-Bill- said:
on a side note,
Why not do this with Acai and Super Colon Explosion/Cleanse

You could run another beckysweightloss, or whatever name is being whored around right now...

It would give your site an edge over all the rest... because your customers wouldn't even have to pay shipping.

Register 500 gift cards with the minimum amount on it.. say $5/$10

You pay $3.95 for shipping on the card, they get a trial, you get a $30 pay out

Bad news is when the advertiser sees that every single referral you had fails the re-bill you're toast.


rabble rabble rabble
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Min is $25 on a card; so you wouldn't be able to profit in your situation.

ItsYoBuddy said:
You said give BACK the accounts. You're giving the accounts to the people on the forums, right? But they never received them in the first place, right? I just want to get this clear. This would be the first time your giving them the account, right?

Also, is CJ the only one that promotes AFF and HF offers?
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Yes, the first time you're giving them the account.

Well for AFF, you need to sign up direct. For HF; you can sign up direct, or through CJ. Though they pay more on CJ.
 
Just because your using spoofed information or, are indeed using the customer's information minus a social security number or D/L number does not mean your not touching on ID theft.

I think that would be one of the bigger things to be concerned about.
 
Anyone else find it amusing that someone who appears to own a newly lauched CPA site is releasing a method that comes close to frauding?
 
airforcematt said:
Anyone else find it amusing that someone who appears to own a newly lauched CPA site is releasing a method that comes close to frauding?
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Yeah its even more amusing that he suggested some AM to steal referrers data from the accounts he managed before being kicked out of the company.
 
airforcematt said:
Anyone else find it amusing that someone who appears to own a newly lauched CPA site is releasing a method that comes close to frauding?
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Releasing? I don't call something that I had taught half a year back as new. Second of all, if any of the guys who implemented this method came back to me and said they got banned, then I wouldn't have posted this. They didn't get banned for one reason, which was that the leads were converting for the advertiser. So there was no fraud at all.
 
FatalError said:
Yeah its even more amusing that he suggested some AM to steal referrers data from the accounts he managed before being kicked out of the company.
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I'm not even going to embark on explaining that post since it's so fucking obvious that it was a joke. The dude was kicked out of an affiliate company, which probably got him pissed. Any pissed guy would have taken all he could before he left, including yourself. Called, human nature.
 
Hosting companies will pull your commissions when they start seeing a pattern of people leaving after a month. It's called fraud.

And you're not going to get away with that shit on hosting forums.
 
Whatever you want to call it, this is fraud. Lots of networks specifically forbid filling in leads yourself. You're cheating the network and advertiser, and ultimately this hurts everyone in the industry.
 
I think you guys are little over concerned with this method. As long as the whole thing works out for the advertiser's end. I doubt they'll really care.

AFF is a site where you get benefited the most when you pay for their Gold memebership, and once these people learned there would be so much they are missing after the month ends, they'll most likely update with their own credit card information anyway.

But I'm not sure how this will work out in large volume, since now it is posted here, probably the overall conversion will drop.
 
Thanks for the guide.

To the others, stop bitching and complaining you sound like those little shits on sitepoint who make stupid comments about 100k+ sites when they obviously won't buy. We know you're not going to do this, so say thanks and stfu.
 
First of all, lots of you keeps saying; when this is used, advertisers will find out. Did you read my first post properly, this is already being used. Fuck, I have several dude that make at least a grand a day from it. That is at least $20k a month altogether. So this shit is working.

Second of all, I didn't copy shit from nowhere. That method you posted only resembles mine in two ways, that they used AFF; and that they give users accounts. But the way they get these accounts and the fashion that they give the accounts is totally different. I would love to see you try it the way posted on BHF, and then try it my way; see which will last longer. Their's has HOLES, holes that will get you out in a few days. Mine on the other hand has been working great for close to 6 months now.

Anyhow, lots of you may be abusing me; but I still know I'm getting the minds of more readers and lovers. For every 1 hate post I get; I get 3 + reps and a PM with thanks. So you continue your fucking shit, I don't mind. Either way I'm turning profit. And again, that's what it all comes down to.

Third of all, lots of seem to keep nagging on that post I made regarding stealing landing and keywords. Do you guys know how to fucking take a joke. Read my first 3 posts on that thread. All 3 posts I made were either sarcastic or humor.
If I were to look through any of your posts right now, and just grab a reply and single it out in a SIG, then trust I can easily find a reply for anyone of you.

And now the fourth, hannah dude; are seriously gay? Change your name and avatar and I may then take you seriously.
 
@ROIShare - Do you participate in ANYTHING that isnt shady or fucking someone?

1) As a network owner, you advise an AM to steal his affiliate LP and campaign information.

2) You advise people to click their own ads with multiple IP's on Google. This screws everyone else advertising on the term by giving them a low CTR and making them pay more per click. Not to mention its fraudulent.

3) You advise people to create fraudulent "sales" with affiliate programs. This will cause 2 things: Tighter regulation from the advertisers in the industry & lower payouts.

I'm no angel. I like a little sketchiness as much as the next guy, but I think your a real douche and I seriously hope no one from wickedfire signs up with your network. You'll probably be the next guy who disappears, leaving your affiliates high and dry for the money.
 
1. A village idiot would be smart enough to see that that the stealing post was a joke.
2. Nope, not fraud. Who am I ripping money of, myself? Not to mention that it was a case study, done to study how CTR affects an AD directly.
3. You know what I am advising. I am advising a fucking method that brings converting leads. That is what I fucking advised. Stop speaking on the behalf of advertisers, when you aren't AFF or HR. They are god damn happy with the leads they get from my guys. No fraud is being done since NOONE is losing money.
 
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