we are going to do a arbi test!

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I took Chris's advice and went with high traffic keywords and about 5-20 keywords for each arbi page and its working. Give the pages some time to perform. Dont overbid because if you make 20-40C per click and are bidding 20-25 cents then you'll either break even or lose. Try between 5C and 15 C on your bids and see what happens. My advice make an arbi in every sector like shopping, law, medicine etc, and go from there. Some niches convert and different times of the day and different days of the week. Once you have enough sites you'll be getting clicks all day all week. Im at 10 sites and get clicks throughout the day and the week. The key with adsense is huge amounts of traffic to get the most clicks possible becuase you arent selling anything to the user you just want him/her to click.
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if you are using only 5-20 'high traffic' keywords what are your bids like? ..i mean, if these are high traffic keywords, wouldnt big-companies already have these keywords priced high??

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I took the leap and built an arbi page. I bid on some keywords on 7search. All pretty cheap. I ripped the template the I-geek guy had. I'll be tweaking and playing and building more in the near future.

I'll let you know how it's coming along.

Thanks for the thread.
 
I'm glad a few people have piped up with a reality check that PPC arbitrage isn't really money falling from the sky. I'm really happy with how well I'm doing so far, but if I had started out a little differently I could just as easily have lost money and given up. Luckily a couple of my best niches were among the first ones I tried, so I had an awesome first day and got excited enough to keep slogging and experimenting through the next few days of mediocre results. I started a week ago and I'm over $200 in revenue now with less than $100 spent. I think I'm going to be steadily over $20/day profit from now on. I've built 26 sites and canned 4 of them.

The key is to test. Most of the things I've tried (both layouts and niches) haven't worked, but the ones that have worked make up for them. Now that I know what does and doesn't work, I'll be improving my ROI by cutting the bad and replicating the good.

Anyway, there's obviously great money here, but takes hard work, luck, or a lot of natural skill to make lots of money in the first few days. The results Jon quoted in his latest blog post are certainly atypical -- $50 profit in the first 2 hours? That's pretty amazing.

I don't want to discourage anyone -- in fact, I'm trying to encourage anyone who isn't profitable yet to keep trying.
 
Setec said:
The results Jon quoted in his latest blog post are certainly atypical -- $50 profit in the first 2 hours?
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Yeah, I'm not even sure how you measure that so quickly, since adsense stats seem to be anywhere from 3-5 hours behind, and I often don't see CJ affiliate sales register until the next day.
 
my stats are no more than 30minutes behind, it is frustrating though when you have a new good keyword getting hits, you can waiste some money figuring it out.
 
eyekon1 said:
the nooooooooooobness enters......

if you are using only 5-20 'high traffic' keywords what are your bids like? ..i mean, if these are high traffic keywords, wouldnt big-companies already have these keywords priced high??

the nooooooooooobness leaves.......
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Do you consider bids from 5-10 cents big? On keywords I target the adsense payout has been from 40cents to 80 cents per click. With an average 20-33%ctr my profit has usually been 2.5 to 1. Once I keep volumizing the profits should be coming in.
 
My arbi tests have gone pretty well since I came across this article- though at the beginning I really picked some pretty dead niches just because they high CPM rates. They aren't losing me money, so I keep them around anyway.

My 7search volume is still less than half it was the week before- anyone still having that problem? Despite that I am up 35% on my investment, so I can't complain- though I am hoping next month when I can actually spend time on site building instead of working 15 hour days I will do better...
 
Ok Two problems i m experiencing here. First i made a arb site for a keyword that according to google is a 10 euro per click one. I got 7 clicks and all add up to 1 EURO. WHY? Second i just started a campaign for this keyword at 7search and even though the keyword has over 150000 searches last month still no click. I m bidding at 0.12c for the 6 th position . Can anyone tell me what am i doing wrong ? I thought to go for another keyword with less value .Something around 1 euro .But a keyword like that wont have more than 10000 searches and if i cant get traffic with the first keyword i really cant imagine how i can with a not as popular one
 
Yes ok .But how exactly? What is best to do ? Go for high paying keywords with a lot of competition? For example now i was trying to do something with a keyword that was at the 6-10 $ price range but i had to pay .29 c for the first place. And as i already said didnt get a click for that one and is a very popular keyword. Can you give me a example?
 
I think one needs super-high traffic topics to really make bigger bucks at this. Out of about a dozen topics I've tried so far (4 or 5 profitable), the only one really throwing enough traffic to make ok sized clickthroughs is one that had about 1.7 million searches last month on the main keyword, and that's with me paying around .20 a click and still only hitting about 75 click-throughs a day.

So think not only high-priced adsense click/low-priced 7search click, but also high 7search traffic.
 
Ok i have a question. Found a nich fond a keyword with 2 million searches at 7search i m paying 0.1 and i had yesterday 160 page views BUT only 10 clicks that payed me 1 euro in total. When i found that nich according to google adwords was suppose to pay me around 50 for each click. I really am impressed from all this people in this forum that they r saying that they have a 20 or 30 or even more CTR. Show me how. My layout is pretty much the same like all the examples in here.
 
Three thoughts:

1) Make your text shorter or less informative. You want the reader to be unsatisfied and look for more.

2) Try different ad formats. Try different placements. I've actually found that a wide tower (160x600) on the left side, and no other ads, tends to work the best for me, but I still find topics that just don't convert well, which leads me to...

3) Maybe the topic is just not one that has the most relevent ads or good conversion. Some topics, just by their very nature, will have better click-through than others.
 
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