Obama Gives International Police Force Immunity From American Law

Didn't really think that I mis-communicated this badly. Sorry.

Magic Hat said:
Most candidates only run on their first and last name. When is the last time you heard any candidate "running around taunting his full name". Everyone knew about it going into the election anyway.



His middle name was brought up several times by Republican pundits. Nobody seemed to care besides right-wing nutjobs.

Not saying I agree with Obama or this order, but surely you can come up with some better points to support your opinions.
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-Matt- said:
Only an idiot would assume that he's a terrorist because he shares a part of his name with one. This is a tired argument and was never based on any logical line of thought.*

*I think Obama is a shit president, a shady bitch with his own agenda, and a fucking douche but this "omg he's a terrorist because of his middle name" shit is fucking old.
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kblessinggr said:
I should probably change my name, God Forbid if someone confused "Karl" with "Karl Marx".

In any case, how is that even relevant? I didn't see John McCain throwing his middle name around...
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Guys, c'mon, my point here was that the "Sheeple" on a whole act on EMOTION and not logic. As marketers we KNOW that fear is a powerful motivator and the republican party could have really played this up if they really wanted to stop him. But they did not.

All I was saying is that the powers that be wanted Obama in office to perpetuate whatever their master plan is.

"I" could care less about someone's name as far as their ability to do a job.

Now, religion is a different story, if they have extremist beliefs that undervalue the importance of the lives of people outside of their religion. Then that becomes a significant factor in their abilty to justly handle human affairs in fair manner.
 


Midas Touch said:
Now, religion is a different story, if they have extremist beliefs that undervalue the importance of the lives of people outside of their religion. Then that becomes a significant factor in their abilty to justly handle human affairs in fair manner.
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Course for that matter, its just as possible to have extremist christians (ie: Soldiers for Christ trying to keep non-Christians out of political positions), as it is to have extremist muslims. So the scare tactic of claiming he's muslim doesn't mean much unless you consider the entire islamic faith a terrorist-prone religion (where as I say any religion can turn for the worse).

Far as the whole Interpol issue, the US is not a part of the EU/UK, and as I see it while he may be able to grant them certain "priviliages" in the spirit of co-operation, they should never have more ability to arrest/detain/search an american citizen than our own local law enforcement. Meaning if they are after someone here in the US, I feel they must go thru the proper channels, such as working with local and or federal law enforcement agencies, as opposed to working on their own. At least when it comes to persuing or investigating someone on American soil.
 
Midas Touch said:
Guys, c'mon, my point here was that the "Sheeple" on a whole act on EMOTION and not logic. As marketers we KNOW that fear is a powerful motivator and the republican party could have really played this up if they really wanted to stop him. But they did not.
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People that already felt comfortable voting for someone named Barack Obama weren't going to be swayed by finding out his middle name. If his name was Mike Smith or something, then you'd have a better argument. The more pandering to extremist voters, the greater risk of turning away undecided voters.
 
kblessinggr said:
Course for that matter, its just as possible to have extremist christians (ie: Soldiers for Christ trying to keep non-Christians out of political positions), as it is to have extremist muslims. So the scare tactic of claiming he's muslim doesn't mean much unless you consider the entire islamic faith a terrorist-prone religion (where as I say any religion can turn for the worse).

Far as the whole Interpol issue, the US is not a part of the EU/UK, and as I see it while he may be able to grant them certain "priviliages" in the spirit of co-operation, they should never have more ability to arrest/detain/search an american citizen than our own local law enforcement. Meaning if they are after someone here in the US, I feel they must go thru the proper channels, such as working with local and or federal law enforcement agencies, as opposed to working on their own. At least when it comes to persuing or investigating someone on American soil.
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You can't compare extremist Christians with extremist Muslims..Please don't start that ignorant argument..please.
 
kblessinggr said:
The same idiots that shuddered in fear every time someone rumored he was a muslim... even if he were islamic... would that mean he's a terrorist or bad person?

I wouldn't play someone's religion into their ability to do the job, look at the religion affiliation of all the politicians in various confirmed scandals and convictions.
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You are right. BO is not a Muslim. Is he an apologist for Muslim extremism? (as his self proclaimed spiratual leader is) YES. After a couple of years of extensive study of this man; I believe his religeon to be "power" and "himself".

You bring up the point that if he were Muslim would he automaticaly be a terrorist. Not neccessarily...but there is a 10% chance (and that estimate of what percentage of Muslims are extremist, is said to be a very conservtive estimate) that he would be an extremist.
 
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fuck obama this fuck obama that. I say fuck the idiots who voted either party candidate into possible election. I think one of the main reasons obama was voted into office was not because his qualifications because he has none. It was more that the republican party was pushing an old geezer with a retard as a vice president. People were scared of john mccain dying in office and leaving retard palin as president. if john mccain had chosen a different VP he would be in office right now.
 
kblessinggr said:
So someone killing in the name of God, trumps those killing in the name of Allah... right, I'll consider that ignorant argument instead.
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the lone wolf crazy Christian that shots an abortion doctor is equal to a whole sect of millions of muslims that preach to stone women and behead innocent men, women and children?

please explain how your statement makes any sense whatsover?

Please name ONE sanctioned Christian church that preaches that we should behead the non-believers? There are sanctioned mosque on American soil that preach this.

apples and oranges.
 
So basically it means International Police can shove a floor lamp up my asshole and I can't object?

Almost sounds like China.
 
popeye said:
the lone wolf crazy Christian that shots an abortion doctor is equal to a whole sect of millions of muslims that preach to stone women and behead innocent men, women and children?

please explain how your statement makes any sense whatsover?

Please name ONE sanctioned Christian church that preaches that we should behead the non-believers? There are sanctioned mosque on American soil that preach this.

apples and oranges.
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Sanctioned by whom though?
 
popeye said:
the lone wolf crazy Christian that shots an abortion doctor is equal to a whole sect of millions of muslims that preach to stone women and behead innocent men, women and children?

please explain how your statement makes any sense whatsover?

Please name ONE sanctioned Christian church that preaches that we should behead the non-believers? There are sanctioned mosque on American soil that preach this.

apples and oranges.
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not really apples and oranges if you go back far enough in time. pretty sure christians also stoned women and beheaded innocent men etc etc. all the same to me. who knows... maybe in 200 years, muslims would be more like present day christians and preach their religion peacefully.
 
mason said:
not really apples and oranges if you go back far enough in time. pretty sure christians also stoned women and beheaded innocent men etc etc. all the same to me. who knows... maybe in 200 years, muslims would be more like present day christians and preach their religion peacefully.
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Please..Please can't athiest/muslim extremist apologist ever argue "Christanity vs. Islam" without bringing up a Christian defensive war that happend when man was still fighting with swords?

Really that argument is on the same level as "All whites are racist and evil because their ancestors may have owned slaves over 100 years ago."
 
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NOT THIS ARGUMENT AGAIN.

Go back in old "Muslim/Christian" threads to see that argument drawn out far longer than it should have been.
 
popeye said:
Please..Please can't athiest/muslim extremist apologist ever argue "Christanity vs. Islam" without bringing up a Christian defensive war that happend when man was still fighting with swords
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Fuck it - I'll jump into this derailed thread too. I should start by saying I don't believe Islam to be a peaceful religion. I base that on actually reading the Qu'ran, not someone's interpretation of it, or the actions of some professed believers in it. It is a violent book, and calls for violent actions/reactions in the name of spreading itself.

However, the other Abrahamic religions have violent histories (not just one "defensive" war Popeye..) and the Old Testament in particular sanctions violence in a big way. If anyone disputes that we can go chapter and verse in this mother fucker if we need to. That doesn't make Christians or Jews violent, but the Old Testament is what it is. The reality is, very few Christians make it beyond Psalms, Proverbs, Matthew/Mark/Luke/John, Genesis and Revelations. Those are only 8 of the 66 books in the Christian Bible and as a result most Christians don't fully understand their religion. I'm not saying that to bash Christians, but I think it's important to come to terms with what your "Holy Book" actually says, before you start ripping apart someone else's equally flawed "Holy Book".

The difference is that Christianity as a religion is older, and the mainstream interpretation of the religion has matured out of it's violent nature for the most part. Some would argue that Christianity is still as violent based on all the wars that have been waged by supposedly Christian nations, but I wouldn't go that far because unless the war is waged on the basis of religion, then I wouldn't say it's quite the same.

Christianity and Judaism both have extremely violent, and often oppressive pasts and their holy books advocate violence in a big way, but Islam is certainly a bigger threat today and far from a religion of peace. But like every other holy book, many of its contents can be interpreted in various ways, and the underlying flaw of human nature that makes everybody so goddamn sure that they are the only ones that possess the absolute truth and everybody else is either ignorant or simply mislead is what leads to all this goddamn violence in the name of religion.

I always laugh when some obvious 8th grade drop out (or tent dweller for that matter) seems to think that they possess the keys to knowledge in this world and insist on making a fool of themselves trying to convince and convert others that their way and their interpretation of a flawed book (pick one) is the only way to get to (fill in the blank fantasy). Religion in a nutshell...

What was this thread about again...? Oh yeah, Obama and Bush suck.
 
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kblessinggr said:
He shouldn't be president cuz he was born with a name related to a guy we now know as a dictator? His name is trash because its arabic in origin? Just think about how smart that sounds...
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You laugh but how many people would vote for John Hitler in 2012? Names mean a lot to the unwashed masses.
 
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