wow..... I've only been in this game for 9 months but this is the first time i've seen some shit like this.
How Hydra Affiliate Network Screwed Me Out Of $25,000
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new poll...
Would you rather use ClickBooth or Hydra?
Add work at mcdonalds as a 3rd option.
Lesson: Read your terms and conditions. I'm positive that there is a section that basically states "If the advertiser doesn't pay us, you don't get paid".
Dude who the fuck are these one post guys just showing up adding there 2 cents read my TOS fuck off!! if the advertiser doesnt pay you thats your problem your the network should screen your fucking advertisers so they arent shady and you should screen you affs before allowing them on board dont pull that fucking TOS bullshit around here fuck! figure it out How about I just dont run shit with you network anymore sounds like a hydra guy just hiding behind a 1 post "ThatAdultGuy" suck it. If thats so true adultguy why the fuck would i even work with a network then? Fuck your a douche bag
Care to explain that?
I live in the bay and the fact that you singled out fremont and hayward affiliates is is kinda wierd.
What is it about fremont and hayward that produces bad affiliates? Had to lol on that one.
Affiliates hate assuming risk. The culture of entitlement is hilarious. It's 100 times worse in adult though. I am a veteran of the adult world and just cruise the mainstream side for kicks. It's amusing to see the same kind of stuff goes on over here.
Running a business involves risk - yet affiliates seem to think they are immune from it. Deals go sour all the time and money is lost. Why would Hydra eat $25k as a PR move? It would be bad business.
Ultimately, affiliates are a dime-a-dozen. 95% of business comes from 5% of affiliates, the rest is just noise.
I can say with nearly 100% confidence that the first LP outed is a Chinese fraudster, the second is most likely a fraudster (site is definitely not used for legit lead generation like that &also based on the fact that the person owning the site/affiliate account claims to be in the US [data from another network], doesn't actually exist..), and the third just looks like an MFA page (mistyped fraud domain?). Believe me, it's REALLY EASY to spot some of these fraudsters based on their sites and information gleaned from login and lead/sale data. I can't see why a network would have even let the first site into a network.
... and I thought that Hydra had a good team on approvals, based on the questions that I got. Agreed, those guys are scammers. Is anyone still alive at Hydra? Firings + mass exodus + fraud = crappy network.
Ya and Guess what Im that fucking 5% sorry that top 1% so you can fuck off mate keep trolling I used to run adult and you definitly come from a place of shady ripping affs "the didnt read tos" good luck with that B.S. Line of bullshit. Remember you would be nowhere without Affiliates no shady craigslist post and Instant message watch my free webcam bullshit you owe affiliates your whole business model. Might want to do a better job screening affiliates and you wouldnt have 95% garbage look what happened to hydra
Fremont is where their sign up IP is located. "Akanoc.com" is their ISP which is Chinese, so they are the Chinese fraudsters.
Everyone knows about these guys and most responsible affiliate networks have automatic denial filters set up for them. Most responsible affiliate networks do not allow the same affiliates with the same sign up IP and same referring URLs used to generate bad traffic use multiple accounts. Hydra saw the opportunity to make money off of them at the expense of others and has more than likely allowed, if not encouraged them to continue on as affiliates. It is quite simple to monitor these affiliates and kick them out or automatically deny them. In order to advertise razor thin margins to their affiliates and support 150 employees and still overfeed their pig of a leader, they seized the opportunity to capitalize on the opportunity of making money off of the chinese fraudsters, at the expense of the legitimate affiliates and advertisers that they claim to so ardently protect.
There, I am no longer a one-poster.
Originally Posted by Shaqsquash
Care to explain that?
I live in the bay and the fact that you singled out fremont and hayward affiliates is is kinda wierd.
What is it about fremont and hayward that produces bad affiliates? Had to lol on that one.
Everyone knows about these guys and most responsible affiliate networks have automatic denial filters set up for them. Most responsible affiliate networks do not allow the same affiliates with the same sign up IP and same referring URLs used to generate bad traffic use multiple accounts. Hydra saw the opportunity to make money off of them at the expense of others and has more than likely allowed, if not encouraged them to continue on as affiliates. It is quite simple to monitor these affiliates and kick them out or automatically deny them. In order to advertise razor thin margins to their affiliates and support 150 employees and still overfeed their pig of a leader, they seized the opportunity to capitalize on the opportunity of making money off of the chinese fraudsters, at the expense of the legitimate affiliates and advertisers that they claim to so ardently protect.
There, I am no longer a one-poster.
Originally Posted by Shaqsquash
Care to explain that?
I live in the bay and the fact that you singled out fremont and hayward affiliates is is kinda wierd.
What is it about fremont and hayward that produces bad affiliates? Had to lol on that one.
A. you're pulling those percentages out of your ass
B. whether its $25K or 25 Cents paying what is owed is the way to do business
C. Fuck yourself
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