And best commercial goes to...

I sell Chryslers and I've met with some of the Presidents of the brands. There is a big change that has already started in their products. They are getting rid of the junk interiors that Daimler gave us and restyling the vehicles that were developed while Chrysler was owned by Cerebus. The E00 is a refresh of the Sebring, but there are significant improvements in the interior in both quality of products and styling. The commercial last night is portraying the goal to brebuild Chrysler the same way it was originally buildj with blood, sweat, and tears. The new Pentastar engine that was released was voted by Wards Automotive as a top 5 engine in the world. There are some big changges coming and Chrysler will be a force to reckon with. 10 months of year over year increase in sales shows that that and the only new vehicle in that time was the new Grand Cherokee. That's strong. Not many other companies can say that in this economy. Sorry if my spelling sucks. I'm typing this on my blackberry and I couldn't see any of the post.
 


now now dont be a eminem nut hugger. I kinda expected this ad to be called the best because there are a lot of eminem nut huggers. It was ok, wasn't great or amazing. And yeah eminem driving a chrysler gave me a good laugh.

Oh and yeah most american cars are crap quality. Especially old fords. Nowadays they are getting a little better but for the most part japanese auto makers like honda and toyota make very good quality cars that are better than their american counterparts.
 
da buck said:
I sell Chryslers and I've met with some of the Presidents of the brands. There is a big change that has already started in their products.
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That's awesome. I look forward to test driving one someday, honestly. A Chevy Volt may be in my future if they have the better green car the year I decide to buy one.

But the fact remains, and don't be shy to tell your brand president buddies this for me; they haven't EARNED the right to make that commercial last night. Not yet.

At best, it's like NASA saying in 1950 that they've gone to the moon.
 
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"But the fact remains, and don't be shy to tell your brand president buddies this for me; they haven't EARNED the right to make that commercial last night. Not yet."

You need to drive the new Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, and Dodge Charger if you think that they haven't earned the right to make that commercial. Those are just the start of the real changes.
 
Shit I missed that Chrysler commercial somehow. Definitely takes the cake. Not just another "haha funny that was cute" branded video. Looks like Chrysler actually made ad that has a possibility of selling something, instead of getting a few laughs.
 
da buck said:
You need to drive the new Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, and Dodge Charger if you think that they haven't earned the right to make that commercial. Those are just the start of the real changes.
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Sometime in the next TEN YEARS I will do so. Then when the 10 years is up, I will check out their resale value, and compare it to toyotas & hondas.

IF AT THAT TIME they come out ahead, I'll change my tune and consider buying american. -Until then, THEY HAVEN'T EARNED IT, PERIOD.
 
lukep said:
they haven't EARNED the right to make that commercial last night. Not yet.
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They haven't "earned the right" to produce this commercial yet?

Your post doesn't make any logical sense. Understand that the Detroit auto industry dominated the world for a very long time and by putting this commercial out there they're telling you to "remember who used to be number one" and "except us to now reclaim that status."

Whether they do or not will remain to be seen, but to say that they are undeserving of making references to their own history of success is just stupidity.
 
zdmyn said:
They haven't "earned the right" to produce this commercial yet?

Your post doesn't make any logical sense. Understand that the Detroit auto industry dominated the world for a very long time and by putting this commercial out there they're telling you to "remember who used to be number one" and "except us to now reclaim that status."

Whether they do or not will remain to be seen, but to say that they are undeserving of making references to their own history of success is just stupidity.
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What the hell is their criteria for #1?

1. Detroit NEVER made cars THAT LAST like Toyotas, BMWs, & Hondas always have. That tells us that "#1" can't be in a contest of longevity, which is the #1 reason I buy a car.

2. Detroit was NEVER the maker of the most luxurious Car, like BMWs. So #1 isn't about Luxury, either.

3. Detroit may have won a few races, but clearly the Italians make the FASTEST cars year after year.

4. The Japanese are making the greenest cars, of course it's a quagmire to really go into the green contest because it becomes an issue with how small a car is acceptable, since a bicycle with a 1/2-hp motor on the rear hub is technically the greenest.

5. And then there is production. Who sold the most cars? -The Chinese, of course, sold the most crappy little cars because they have by far the largest population.

So what is the criteria to claim #1? Nostalgia?

Whatever Chrystler claims it is, it's not a serious reason to buy a car at all.
 
lukep said:
You don't think that someone dies like that in a ford or Chevy every week?? :small-smiley-026:
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No, US brakes work.

lukep said:
What the hell is their criteria for #1?

1. Detroit NEVER made cars THAT LAST like Toyotas, BMWs, & Hondas always have. That tells us that "#1" can't be in a contest of longevity, which is the #1 reason I buy a car.
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My 1971 Lincoln Mark III had 320k miles on it when I bought it as teenager. When I sold it it had almost 400k. I also owned a 1987 Chevy Monte Carlo with 200k plus and a 2001 Lincoln LS with 150k miles that never saw a repair shop.

lukep said:
2. Detroit was NEVER the maker of the most luxurious Car, like BMWs. So #1 isn't about Luxury, either.
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Cadillac? Lincoln?

lukep said:
3. Detroit may have won a few races, but clearly the Italians make the FASTEST cars year after year.
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See NASCAR
 
The 1969 Dodge Daytona set a speed record that held for 13 years, to be broken by about 1 mph in 1983. Is that number 1 enough for you?

lukep said:
What the hell is their criteria for #1?

1. Detroit NEVER made cars THAT LAST like Toyotas, BMWs, & Hondas always have. That tells us that "#1" can't be in a contest of longevity, which is the #1 reason I buy a car.

2. Detroit was NEVER the maker of the most luxurious Car, like BMWs. So #1 isn't about Luxury, either.

3. Detroit may have won a few races, but clearly the Italians make the FASTEST cars year after year.

4. The Japanese are making the greenest cars, of course it's a quagmire to really go into the green contest because it becomes an issue with how small a car is acceptable, since a bicycle with a 1/2-hp motor on the rear hub is technically the greenest.

5. And then there is production. Who sold the most cars? -The Chinese, of course, sold the most crappy little cars because they have by far the largest population.

So what is the criteria to claim #1? Nostalgia?

Whatever Chrystler claims it is, it's not a serious reason to buy a car at all.
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my two favs
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3snyXTNmFm8]YouTube - Audi Big Game Commercial 2011 - Release the Hounds[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCdnFMp6s84]YouTube - DORITOS® - House Sitting -- Crash the Super Bowl 2011 Finalist[/ame]
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
lol - yeah great comparison. And these were after years of corrosion, not straight up malfunction.
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lol fair point. I couldn't find a closer example that demonstrated that autos are recalled all the time. Some problems are proven under testing, others are debunked, and still others remain a mystery. As Dullspace mentioned, the NHTSA has all but debunked the Toyota accelerator issue.

Meanwhile, here's a nice trove of past auto recalls, both domestic and foreign. Some were proven, and others not.

That may seem like backtracking. But frankly, I'm not even sure what we're debating anymore. lol
 
Report: NHTSA Finds Driver Error in Toyota Sudden Acceleration Cases, Not Defect - WOT

In collaborating with the National Academy of Sciences, NHTSA revealed that it has only been able to confirm one case of legitimate sudden acceleration in those 75 fatal accidents. That accident was the catalyst that sparked the entire scandal, an off-duty California Highway Patrol officer who crashed on the freeway near San Diego, California, on August 28, 2009 killing all the occupants of the vehicle.

That crash was eventually attributed to an all-weather floor mat from a different vehicle that had been placed on top of the car’s own carpeted floor mats and had become lodged under the gas pedal, holding it down and the throttle open. That accident led to a global floor mat recall and later to a recall of certain throttle pedals that were slow to return to idle, eventually encompassing more than eight million vehicles. The NHTSA report does not excuse those issues and the agency previously levied its highest possible fine of $16.4 million against Toyota for failing to disclose the sticky pedal problem sooner.

“In spite of our investigations, we have not actually been able yet to find a defect” in electronic throttle-control systems, NHTSA’s associate administrator for enforcement, Daniel Smith, told the National Academy of Sciences last month. “We’re bound and determined that if it exists we’re going to find it,” he added. “But as yet, we haven’t found it.”
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