erect the impaler ... why excessive bumping is bad for your sales

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bhseoteam posted 21 shitty posts to be able to post this thread:
http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/103163-seo-team-link-building-your-site-50-week.html

Look at some of the gems he left on other threads (and see if you want to do business with him):
http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/103135-dofollow-social-bookmarking-sites-2010-a.html
bhseoteam said:
thanks for the list

can someone create a bot for these
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http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/103080-articles-writer.html
bhseoteam said:
wrong section!!!!
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http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/102811-you-experience-how-does-google-respond.html (I pointed this out since he's in the backlink business but doesn't seem to understand diminishing returns in relation to the number of backlinks on a page)
bhseoteam said:
it shouldnt make a difference
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http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/102636-getting-links.html
bhseoteam said:
articles
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http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/102724-free-press-release-websites.html
bhseoteam said:
do press releases work?
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Clearly he doesn't even care to contribute meaningful advice, just spamming to look more reputable and be able to use the PM function.
 


http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/103136-pagerank-6-link-sell.html


He's shady as hell... e emailed me two domains claims to be PR 6 and 8 I ran them in Scrapebox and the 6 comes off as fake..

Emailed a letter with about 4 questions and mentioned that I wasn't interested in the 6 one. He replied with one sentence that they were legit and didn't answer anything else... If op a MOD want to check just pm me and I will send you the URL's.
 
Well i am a seller here from the last 1 year or so. May be a few might even know me here on WF.

Talking about 5-6 months before, i was the only one in the WF market for the services i offer here. Then, after seeing my thread success here, many DP guys just came here and tried to destroy my competition by providing stuff cheaper then me that i was offering. :)

If they would have played it like a honest player, I would have accepted the competition, but ironically they always tried to keep their threads above my thread just by bumping their threads again and again. And that really pissed me off many a times!! :(

That time i just thought to quit from WF and establish myself more on BHW, MMD and other similar forums where at least BST sections are properly monitored.

After 6 months, talking about the current scenario...the situation is more worse. We have threads for every single ADWORD and FACEBOOK Voucher. We have guys who need some $$$ urgent as they got some shit problems at their home/family and charging like 15-25$/article!! I mean WTF is all going these days!!! :(

I sound very frustrated and yes i am. If BST needs more MOD's then please appoint it. Let the genuine sellers do some business here by removing the noobs who just make a thread for anything they get from other forums.

I welcome the idea of limiting the posts for creation of threads in BST. 100 is too high to go with but even 50 would do and enough to stop the SPAM.

If i said anything wrong, plz don't bother me!! And yes, my english is not that good!!

Thanks
SeoWorks09
 
Quick query. I paid a discounted price for a review copy and reviewed it. I don't mind giving a positive iTrader (and the vendor would dearly like one) but I'm not sure whether it will hurt them.

Is it a review copy so no iTrader, or a paid transaction, so I can put in an iTrader?
 
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Quick query. I paid a discounted price for a review copy and reviewed it. I don't mind giving a positive iTrader (and the vendor would dearly like one) but I'm not sure whether it will hurt them.

Is it a review copy so no iTrader, or a paid transaction, so I can put in an iTrader?
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Good question. My opinion:

An itrader should not be given for a "review copy," even if the review was purchased at a discounted price.

This is bound to lead to questions about fairness. For example, what if an established vendor simply lowers his price for a short time? Clients and customers who take advantage of his discount would leave an itrader in that case, so why not in your scenario?

In my mind, a "review copy" has one purpose: to review the product or service, and the vendor's delivery/communication/bedside manner/etc., not to encourage itraders.

It's not a simple matter, and I'll be the first to say I might be coming at this from the wrong perspective. I'd love to hear what pingo, jryan21, Rexibit, nordie, onkelmicha, 1yerrot, and others think about this.

Side note: I'm against rules, so I don't think we should prohibit customers from giving itraders for review copies. Eventually, I'm hoping vendors will understand that receiving itraders from "review copy" whores does nothing for their reputation. I can't tell you how many times I wanted to tell a content provider "Don't give a review to plusmin. Nobody respects his review or itrader. Neither will do anything for you."
 
Jake,

You make a really good point, and I understand where you're coming from.

I kind of fly a bit differently though........I don't have a problem leaving iTrader for work well done, even if it is a review, as the work done typically is good and took time.

If I find a particularly good service, I will leave a glowing review (conversely, if it sucks I will scorch it). If the service is really high level and the experience is top shelf, I think that a positive itrader (for the vendor) will help them, especially if they're brand new and trying to establish themselves.

I enjoy helping the really good service providers here if they deserve it, especially the ones trying to get off the ground.

Everyone seems to have a slightly different way of dealing with it - this is just mine.

As for the "review whores", I don't see a clean way for the community to deal with it, other than reporting it here or directly to a mod. The rest has to be done on a Moderator level. While I don't see anything as abjectly abusive on a "Plusmin" level, some smaller scale guys still exist out there.

N~


JakeStratham said:
Good question. My opinion:

An itrader should not be given for a "review copy," even if the review was purchased at a discounted price.

This is bound to lead to questions about fairness. For example, what if an established vendor simply lowers his price for a short time? Clients and customers who take advantage of his discount would leave an itrader in that case, so why not in your scenario?

In my mind, a "review copy" has one purpose: to review the product or service, and the vendor's delivery/communication/bedside manner/etc., not to encourage itraders.

It's not a simple matter, and I'll be the first to say I might be coming at this from the wrong perspective. I'd love to hear what pingo, jryan21, Rexibit, nordie, onkelmicha, 1yerrot, and others think about this.

Side note: I'm against rules, so I don't think we should prohibit customers from giving itraders for review copies. Eventually, I'm hoping vendors will understand that receiving itraders from "review copy" whores does nothing for their reputation. I can't tell you how many times I wanted to tell a content provider "Don't give a review to plusmin. Nobody respects his review or itrader. Neither will do anything for you."
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nordie, you're WRONG, you liberal/conservative/pro... oh wait. We're not in the Shooting The Shit forum. Sorry.

Here's the funny thing about your post.

If I see an itrader from you, it doesn't even matter to me whether it was given for a review copy. The vendor's stock goes up in my head. Same with an itrader from guerilla, dchuk, and hellblazer. Meanwhile, if I see an itrader from someone who purchased the product/service, yet is unqualified (in my mind) to review it, the itrader has no effect on my perspective of the vendor.

And that gets to the heart of how this might work. Vendors, even new ones, will slowly get the idea that an itrader from certain members is worth nothing. Those members may eventually be ostracized by vendors.

I like your thinking on this. Especially about the new, top-shelf vendors trying to establish themselves, and reputed WF members helping them do so with an itrader.



nordie said:
Jake,

You make a really good point, and I understand where you're coming from.

I kind of fly a bit differently though........I don't have a problem leaving iTrader for work well done, even if it is a review, as the work done typically is good and took time.

If I find a particularly good service, I will leave a glowing review (conversely, if it sucks I will scorch it). If the service is really high level and the experience is top shelf, I think that a positive itrader (for the vendor) will help them, especially if they're brand new and trying to establish themselves.

I enjoy helping the really good service providers here if they deserve it, especially the ones trying to get off the ground.

Everyone seems to have a slightly different way of dealing with it - this is just mine.

As for the "review whores", I don't see a clean way for the community to deal with it, other than reporting it here or directly to a mod. The rest has to be done on a Moderator level. While I don't see anything as abjectly abusive on a "Plusmin" level, some smaller scale guys still exist out there.

N~
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JakeStratham said:
If I see an itrader from you, it doesn't even matter to me whether it was given for a review copy. The vendor's stock goes up in my head. Same with an itrader from guerilla, dchuk, and hellblazer. Meanwhile, if I see an itrader from someone who purchased the product/service, yet is unqualified (in my mind) to review it, the itrader has no effect on my perspective of the vendor.
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I think that is what I look for when I check out iTraders. I look for people that I recognize from previous reviews good or bad. Certain members comes with trust and authority. I dont think it matter if the iTrader is left for a paid copy or free review versions. The number of iTraders and why they were left is quite irrelevant more important is who left them.
 
onkelmicha said:
I think that is what I look for when I check out iTraders. I look for people that I recognize from previous reviews good or bad. Certain members comes with trust and authority. I dont think it matter if the iTrader is left for a paid copy or free review versions. The number of iTraders and why they were left is quite irrelevant more important is who left them.
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This makes sense to me. Thanks for helping me get my head around this. I'm still torn. I wish there was a way to know whether an itrader was left for a free service/product. The reason is because it's tempting for some people to "go easy" on a vendor if they receive the service/product for free.

Fortunately, you guys are willing to (as nordie says) "scorch" a service/product if it is deserving of such treatment, regardless of whether it is given for free. I wish everyone here was like that. :)
 
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