What Do I Do Next?/Losing Motivation/Whining

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In the last 2 weeks I haven't done anything to any of my 3 sites. Some days I haven't even checked my Google Analytics. This lack of motivation stems from highschool, which I am attending for one last year. I have absolutely no motivation to do anything at school as I know I will not use it in the "real world". Because of this I know I can't settle with a typical 9-5 and I need to start getting good at affiliate marketing, or likely be ruined by my lack of motivation.

The only money I've made from AM is from writing, and I sold a site after I ranked it on the first page of Google in an uncompetitive niche on it's second week. My PayPal balance is currently $40, $9 hosting charge is on the 20th.

I have made $0.18 from AdSense. $0 from CJ. The most traffic I'm getting is ~120 visitors daily from Google images, second place ranges from 60 - 90 uniques daily in the last two weeks from SEO. I've also been approved to Ads4Dough but have not even logged in since being approved, mainly because I don't see an advantage to using it over CJ for SEO.

Honestly, I have no idea what I was trying to accomplish with this thread. Possibly gain motivation? All advice is appreciated, though I'm not sure what anyone could say other than something generic, keep on trucking, type of thing. inb4keepontrucking. I'm going to go read all the noob stickies again. I need to make money.

Cliffs :music07:
- I've only made money writing, and selling 1 site
- I need to make money
- I'm low on motivation due to complete lack of success

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when I started out, I used to check GA stats almost everyday but just think about it, you could be writing articles, building links, coming up with ideas, etc etc instead.

you seem to be doing SEO and you said you've sold a site; I'd just replicate that model .. just do 10 more sites and keep building upon it; seo takes time so it would be an overkill to check your stats everyday
 
dchuk said:
stop acting like a 17 year old and man up and fucking crush it
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I'm still 17 for another 2 weeks.

imkazu said:
when I started out, I used to check GA stats almost everyday but just think about it, you could be writing articles, building links, coming up with ideas, etc etc instead.

you seem to be doing SEO and you said you've sold a site; I'd just replicate that model .. just do 10 more sites and keep building upon it; seo takes time so it would be an overkill to check your stats everyday
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Honestly I would, but I'm not having any luck in creating a site that others want. Likely because none of my sites have/are earning me anything.
 
Staccs said:
I have absolutely no motivation to do anything at school as I know I will not use it in the "real world".
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Total BS.

Everything you ever come in contact with in life you will use it whether you realize it or not. Everything shapes your scope on the world.

I didn't think I would need to know Math in school because I could easily use a calculator or Excel. It wasn't until my Finance and Quantitative Methods (next level above statistics) classes in College in my last year that I saw the full potential for being able to calculate probabilities and successes that I wish I paid much more attention in my basic Math classes.

As Dchuk said - suck it up and pick a path and go with it.

Apply for a business administrative program so you'll get some core skills. You may not think you'll benefit, but you'd be surprised about how you perceive the world and start to question stuff after you've gotten into your core classes.

One major benefit to this is that you will have a contingency plan for if you don't make it in this industry.

Now, you have 3 easy years of classes to become a success in Internet Marketing.

So, pick a niche:

  1. Write out a strategy on paper for what you want to accomplish.
  2. Break those points down with more methods of how to achieve them.
  3. Make a task list and time frame of when to achieve each point.
  4. Work.
  5. Chart your progress and document what works and doesn't.
  6. Watch your money roll in.
  7. Repeat.
 
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jacky8 said:
There was a pretty good thread about a similar topic sometime ago. I'll dig it up for you.

Here you go. http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/101214-feeling-too-comfortable-any-advice.html

^ may be a little different case but it is also about lack of motivation.

imo, you need to get a good girl friend :)
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I remember reading that thread as it was created, but I didn't see some of the later replies.

See, I wish I had that problem. He's bored because he's too comfortable with his tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands in earnings. I can't make a dollar a day and because of that frustrated with my lack of earnings.

I don't want another relationship right now, got out of a long term one a while ago, already have 99 problems.

Sakana said:
All I have to say... I wish I knew about WF when I was 17.
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18 very soon, but I know what you mean, and that is motivation for me. I want to capitalize on the time I have, and use my age to my advantage, unfortunately having such little success is very discouraging.

Rexibit said:
- SNIPPED EDUCATION TALK TO SAVE SPACE -
Now, you have 3 easy years of classes to become a success in Internet Marketing.

So, pick a niche:

  1. Write out a strategy on paper for what you want to accomplish.
  2. Break those points down with more methods of how to achieve them.
  3. Make a task list and time frame of when to achieve each point.
  4. Work.
  5. Chart your progress and document what works and doesn't.
  6. Watch your money roll in.
  7. Repeat.
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I'm sure you're right as you are likely older, and wiser, but I just don't see it now. Call me naive, ignorant, what ever, I can't spend 5 minutes in math class without thinking about walking out the door.

I understand that AM is relatively easy when you break it down. However, when the "what works" list is empty, and you're running out of "test" money, than your motivation tends to run dry. I'm not even talking about PPC, the SEO expenses of domain names and hosting add up when you're sites aren't earning anything and you go through the Namecheap checkout with domain number 8.

I need to find success at something to duplicate it. Obviously I'm having trouble with AM, so maybe I need to try AdSense. Anything to make $1/day.
 
Staccs said:
I remember reading that thread as it was created, but I didn't see some of the later replies.

See, I wish I had that problem. He's bored because he's too comfortable with his tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands in earnings. I can't make a dollar a day and because of that frustrated with my lack of earnings.

I don't want another relationship right now, got out of a long term one a while ago, already have 99 problems.


18 very soon, but I know what you mean, and that is motivation for me. I want to capitalize on the time I have, and use my age to my advantage, unfortunately having such little success is very discouraging.



I'm sure you're right as you are likely older, and wiser, but I just don't see it now. Call me naive, ignorant, what ever, I can't spend 5 minutes in math class without thinking about walking out the door.

I understand that AM is relatively easy when you break it down. However, when the "what works" list is empty, and you're running out of "test" money, than your motivation tends to run dry. I'm not even talking about PPC, the SEO expenses of domain names and hosting add up when you're sites aren't earning anything and you go through the Namecheap checkout with domain number 8.

I need to find success at something to duplicate it. Obviously I'm having trouble with AM, so maybe I need to try AdSense. Anything to make $1/day.
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start offering basic link building offers on fiverr, you'll make a hundred a day in no time. Save every penny, parlay it into bigger shit.

Also, stop acting like a 17 year old.
 
dchuk said:
start offering basic link building offers on fiverr, you'll make a hundred a day in no time. Save every penny, parlay it into bigger shit.

Also, stop acting like a 17 year old.
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I'd rather write than build links, and I'd rather earn off one of my sites than write. I'm going to try an AdSense site or two next. If I don't see earnings then, I don't know what I'm going to do. All of my current sites don't seem to have much potential to me.

1 - Averaging around 120 uniques/daily from Google Images. Gave up on monetizing.

2 - According to Google's keyword tool, the main keyword USE to have 60K exact match searches. A month or so ago the same tool, same exact search setting, gets less than 1K. Despite weak competition, is not ranked in first 3 pages. Low CPC/AdSense potential, no traffic at all.

3 - Bad decision. Competition is very steep, but I was hoping it would be picked up by social media. Bursts of traffic from Stumble Upon, nothing else. Good domain name if anything.

4 - Averages about 75 uniques daily from SEO work on 1 minor keyword. Potential for a greater amount of traffic if more link building/posting is done. Low CPC, so I'm not sure how I could monetize it.

Basically, looking through the rear view I can see that I target things that are over my head, with exception to the site 2, which I wouldn't say is my fault. Instead of targeting 50K/month searches I need to grab the easy, below 10K niches. The site I sold was backlitusbkeyboard.net. According to the keyword tool now, "backlit usb keyboard" only gets 73 searches/month. When I bought the domain it reported 7.8K/month.

I appreciate the posts, even if the ones pointing out my age. Any and all advice/tips/encouragement is appreciated on finally making some money. I'm done acting like a 17 year old, for at least the rest of the day :food-smiley-010:
 
Start acting like a 17 year old. Have some fun and don't stress out about this too much. Also, do your math homework - the actual skills are not relevant to your life, but the process of solving a problem will be invaluable.

A lot of times it will come down to this: you are a young man (who is just figuring himself out) playing a game against old men (who have had decades to figure shit out). Just keep playing it, and make it fun. Also, check out HawkHost - there's no reason why you should be paying $9 a month in hosting ;-).
 
Staccs said:
I'd rather write than build links, and I'd rather earn off one of my sites than write. I'm going to try an AdSense site or two next. If I don't see earnings then, I don't know what I'm going to do. All of my current sites don't seem to have much potential to me.

1 - Averaging around 120 uniques/daily from Google Images. Gave up on monetizing.

2 - According to Google's keyword tool, the main keyword USE to have 60K exact match searches. A month or so ago the same tool, same exact search setting, gets less than 1K. Despite weak competition, is not ranked in first 3 pages. Low CPC/AdSense potential, no traffic at all.

3 - Bad decision. Competition is very steep, but I was hoping it would be picked up by social media. Bursts of traffic from Stumble Upon, nothing else. Good domain name if anything.

4 - Averages about 75 uniques daily from SEO work on 1 minor keyword. Potential for a greater amount of traffic if more link building/posting is done. Low CPC, so I'm not sure how I could monetize it.

Basically, looking through the rear view I can see that I target things that are over my head, with exception to the site 2, which I wouldn't say is my fault. Instead of targeting 50K/month searches I need to grab the easy, below 10K niches. The site I sold was backlitusbkeyboard.net. According to the keyword tool now, "backlit usb keyboard" only gets 73 searches/month. When I bought the domain it reported 7.8K/month.

I appreciate the posts, even if the ones pointing out my age. Any and all advice/tips/encouragement is appreciated on finally making some money. I'm done acting like a 17 year old, for at least the rest of the day :food-smiley-010:
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trying to bank off of adsense sites is liking asking a midget to slam dunk, it just isn't very realistic. Aim higher so you stand to earn more.

The reason I suggest doing fiverr to get to 100 a day isn't because I like the idea of 20 $5 jobs a day, it's because hitting 100 a day is a fucking huge motivator to get yourself to 200 a day, 500 a day, 1000 a day+

I guarantee none of your friends are making 100 a day. I definitely guarantee none of your friends are making 1000 a day.

You have to start somewhere, so start with making money, then shoot high and go after higher hanging fruits than .10 cent clicks on obscure long tail furniture and purple blender MFA sites.
 
dchuk said:
trying to bank off of adsense sites is liking asking a midget to slam dunk, it just isn't very realistic. Aim higher so you stand to earn more.

The reason I suggest doing fiverr to get to 100 a day isn't because I like the idea of 20 $5 jobs a day, it's because hitting 100 a day is a fucking huge motivator to get yourself to 200 a day, 500 a day, 1000 a day+

I guarantee none of your friends are making 100 a day. I definitely guarantee none of your friends are making 1000 a day.

You have to start somewhere, so start with making money, then shoot high and go after higher hanging fruits than .10 cent clicks on obscure long tail furniture and purple blender MFA sites.
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I'd put a little more thought into it than that. One potential niche is a sub-niche of electronics, $7.20 CPC, 1.9K searches/month, exact match .net available probably one of the highlights of the research I've done today. Even with the fairly low search traffic.

I'd still like to pursue that, but I do understand what you are saying and it is very appealing. Honestly, I would not consider link building a strong point of mine, and I wouldn't know how to start offering a link building service worth as little as $5. How many backlinks does one get for $5? A certain PR? Do they have to appear within a week? Although I could "hide behind my keyboard" I like to take pride in my work and would feel uncomfortable offering a service I am not confident in my ability performing.

If you could outline what I would need to do to offer the service on fiverr, I would do my best to get it done.

Appreciate your replies as always, as well as everybody else's. By the time I know what I'm doing in this AM business there's going to be a hell of noob threads that can be indexed for the next noob.
 
Staccs said:
I'd put a little more thought into it than that. One potential niche is a sub-niche of electronics, $7.20 CPC, 1.9K searches/month, exact match .net available probably one of the highlights of the research I've done today. Even with the fairly low search traffic.
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devil's advocate time: let's assume you rank #1 for that keyword, you'll get about 45% of that traffic. So that's 760 visitors a month.

You'll be doing well with a CTR of about 3%, so thats 22 clicks a month. Google keeps about 35% of a click's value, so that drops the CPC to $4.68, and they often fill inventory with super cheap clicks, so this is an ideal situation I'm outlining.

So in a really good world, you could make about 100 bucks a month off of that site. Sounds pretty good right?

You need the domain, that's 10 bucks. Hosting will be at the minimum $5/month, plus you need all of your content to get there, which is your time (time is cheap in high school, I'll give you that). Then, you'll need links.

It takes about 2-3 months to really stand a chance of being a contender in the top 3 of the majority of moderately challenging niches. a low link building budget to start is $50 per month, and that is something that should be somewhat ongoing (albeit at a probably cheaper price, maybe $25/month).

NOW, imagine if you instead diverted all of that effort into a CPA offer with a $25 payout...

Just trying to put things in perspective for you, not trying to be a dick. I hope it helps.

Hit me up in PM and we can exchange IM details and talk some more about this stuff if you'd like
 
I see what you mean. In my defense, the situation wouldn't be much different with affiliate offers in place of AdSense. The CTR would likely be similar, give or take a few .%, and the affiliate network takes a percentage in place of Google. However, the difference seems to be Google filling the inventory with cheap clicks versus having a larger payout per conversion. Although I haven't seen very many $25 offers.

It may be my ignorant, inexperienced thinking, but I still feel there is an opening in MFA sites. The site I sold ($75) was 2 weeks old with 0 earnings. Its ranking dropped from page 1 about 2 weeks after I sold it. If I can make sites appealing by getting short term rankings and flipping them on DP, it's extra cash if nothing else.

PM incoming.
 
Pay for 3 months hosting right now, then take a couple of months off.

If you miss the thrill of the chase then hit it hard again. If not, then AM is probably not for you at this time in your young life.

Dude you got some time time to hit your goal. IMO, at your age if you don't love AM then find something else that you do love to do -- then you won't need motivation.

Think about it -- there's nothing better than having the love of your life as a career. Shoot for that.

GL
 
GerardWon said:
Pay for 3 months hosting right now, then take a couple of months off.

If you miss the thrill of the chase then hit it hard again. If not, then AM is probably not for you at this time in your young life.

Dude you got some time time to hit your goal. IMO, at your age if you don't love AM then find something else that you do love to do -- then you won't need motivation.

Think about it -- there's nothing better than having the love of your life as a career. Shoot for that.

GL
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I am definitely motivated by money, and I love that I can use technology, one of my main interests, to earn money. It's crazy to me still, when I found about about WF I couldn't believe there was actually a way to make money online. I still have the drive to earn money online, but having a total of 5 failure sites and no profit leaves me to believe that AM is either too hard, or I'm just that bad at it.

Although I have time to stall now, and take time off, what if I didn't? I would love to be in college making hundreds a day without a "job". I'd probably cry tears of joy to make $1K+ a day. Even though I have the opportunity to take breaks, I also have the opportunity to make more than my parents, likely at 18 years old. Even if I doesn't feel like a possibility at my current low point.
 
Staccs said:
I still have the drive to earn money online, but having a total of 5 failure sites and no profit leaves me to believe that AM is either too hard, or I'm just that bad at it.
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If this is what you believe, then you do NOT have the drive..you have the desire. Desire is want, while drive is need.

Failure is part of it, but you cannot let failure determine how you perceive success. You will fail many times before you hit a home run. How many home run hitters strike out regularly...or at least only get base hits?

The failures should each show you something. Failure is a good thing because it teaches you how to get better. I'm not sure if you're a gamer or not, but if so how many times do you reset and play the level over again until you get past it? Do you stop after five tries? I don't...it gets me mad, and I get determined until I finish.

Get mad, get determined...it's the way you succeed. Working online IS hard...if it weren't every retard out there would be doing it. That's the appeal is that only the strong survive. Are you strong?
 
DanWesson said:
If this is what you believe, then you do NOT have the drive..you have the desire. Desire is want, while drive is need.

Failure is part of it, but you cannot let failure determine how you perceive success. You will fail many times before you hit a home run. How many home run hitters strike out regularly...or at least only get base hits?

The failures should each show you something. Failure is a good thing because it teaches you how to get better. I'm not sure if you're a gamer or not, but if so how many times do you reset and play the level over again until you get past it? Do you stop after five tries? I don't...it gets me mad, and I get determined until I finish.

Get mad, get determined...it's the way you succeed. Working online IS hard...if it weren't every retard out there would be doing it. That's the appeal is that only the strong survive. Are you strong?
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Good points, I agree. I strongly believe that I have more desire than average because I really can't imagine working a 9-5 like my parents, or any job for that matter where you are being controlled by someone who does less work than you, and sometimes less intelligent than you. All for little money.
 
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