Stephen Hawking Says the Universe Was Not Created by God
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It does, do you thought everything is going by accident? No, man! Like Chinese wise-man says "There are no accident" and it's proven.
If your dads sweaty balls flapped slightly differently when he dripped you on your moms eggs, you wouldn't be here. This type of coincidence goes all the way back to the dawn of our species. Then whatever ancestral species we had and however they liked to fuck, then microbes, the formation of the planet, the 'alternate nut bust' theory applies all the way down to exploding stars, and eventually our universe.
You're the direct result of thousands and thousands of successions of sweaty balls which had the angular momentum in time and space to eventually produce you.
You're right about one thing, it wasn't no accident.
Your momma was fine, once upon a time.
STFU!!!! This is so fucking dumb.
Now - peace be with all of you and all that good stuff - oh, and watch this. I think this will answer your questions:
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Now - peace be with all of you and all that good stuff - oh, and watch this. I think this will answer your questions:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkPgYbdQ1kQ&feature=related"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
Same on here! I've been talking to a mom of yours, and she told me you're an unexpected.
lolol c'mon Turbo.
Have you ever heard of the word 'reform'?
Christianity has clearly reformed itself since the times of The Crusades. When was the last time Christian terrorism was a major problem in the world? When was the last time Islamic terrorism was a major problem in the world?
Christianity was reformed in part because of the basic teachings of The Bible - to love. Islam shares some of the same sentiments, with the extra "wage jihad on all nonbelievers" here and there. That's the critical difference and is why Islam STILL is a major problem in the world.
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As per this stupid religious debate...well it's stupid. The atheists here as usual seem like bitter people and argue "no scientific proof", and the religious "zealots" here argue in a hypocritical tone (calling an atheist a fucker for making their point is NOT the Christian/Muslim/whatever thing to do) with conclusions that have more holes than Swiss cheese.
Religion (as an idea of a God) is something that can neither be proved or disproved. As far as our current knowledge in the universe and science is, religion is not logical. But it was also not logical 500 years ago that man would ever take flight off the ground, let alone go to the moon (and soon beyond).
Organized religion is a result of man, and demonstrates the weakness and corruption in humanity. They blot out the underlying message (to be a good person) with threats of eternity in Hell or reincarnation as a rat. They preach to kill those who don't believe. They use fear and ultimatums to ensure that their followers are loyal. Even if a God DID communicate with earlier civilizations, it would have been so washed up by man that by the time it got to where we are now...well you can clearly see what's happened. Nobody that is a true believer in religious messages and teachings of God would kill in the name of that religion...EVER.
I guess I could consider myself more of an agnostic now, but I'll continue to pray to the same God I've been praying to my entire life. And I hope it continues to get me through tough situations, and hope it builds me into a better person over time.
But to poke fun and say things like Spaghetti Monster or Purple Unicorn is insulting. I certainly believe there is something out there that could turn itself into a spaghetti monster and fuck ya'll up, but if you designed the Universe and millions of planets with life (which is another question mark) and saw what came of humanity when you give people free will, I'd just think "meh, humans" and not even bother. If there was something more intelligent than us out there, why the hell would they waste their time proving themselves to us? We're a sad race.
Damn I should have gone to bed 20 minutes ago.
Why? They're both just as probable as 'god', or allah, or vishnu, Thore or Zeuse, and that's the whole point.
you sir, have just restored some of my belief in you. well written post. most atheists go by the principle of live and let live. "you believe in god?" "good for you, I don't. but who cares".
well its is very interesting article and there are many arguments about it.
But i personally do thinks god exists i choose not to believe though.
at least not in all the Bible ways, dont do that dont do that why because its written in the book.
i mean his theory might be right but there should be too many coincidence for it to work.
But i personally do thinks god exists i choose not to believe though.
at least not in all the Bible ways, dont do that dont do that why because its written in the book.
i mean his theory might be right but there should be too many coincidence for it to work.
This.
People are not making fun of it just for the sake of making fun of it.
People are questioning your logic.
If Christianity or Islam is taught in school to children who don't know any better, why isn't Thore or Zeuse being taught in school? Why are parents imposing their belief on children telling them they'll go to hell day in day out unless they accept Jesus Christ as their personal lord and savior? Why? Why spend tax-payer's money on something as redundant and backward as this?
Why are you praying to a god that existence is as likely as the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
p/s: Not only do we not believe in a God, we disproved the idea of God pushed by organized religion. The earth is older than 5000 years (you fuckers didn't know this before scientists researched carbon-dating, or the discovery of dinosaur bones). Evolution.
Organized religions = fraud. Got it?
Why is it insulting? Because it's used as an insult, that's why. Whereas I'm open to talking about the possibility of a mystical and unexplainable force that may have been involved and/or responsible for the grand design of the universe(s) and things we cannot comprehend (which makes them difficult and pointless to debate), you're using the metaphor of something utterly ridiculous as an insult to my intelligence and what I believe in. It's childish.
How much common sense do you lack to ask why that would be insulting?
You didn't read my post and therefore have no point in being in this conversation. BlueJams post was in direct reference to mine.
To humor you, I pray to God because it's helped me and millions of people with a various number of things. From getting through difficult times to giving me the ability to explore my thoughts further and come to realizations (much like meditation), I have seen prayers that are answered.
Sure his existence is as likely as a Flying Spaghetti Monster, but it's plain silly to believe that flying spaghetti created the universe. It's much more reasonable and logical to believe that there are forces involved in the universe that we can't explain or understand. Science is direct proof of this, we are constantly uncovering more and more about physics and the universe that we didn't think or know was possible. From realizing that the world isn't flat to realizing that we can synthetically create life and organisms by injecting DNA into cells. Dark matter, string theory, we're starting to put names on the fundamentals of the universe but are clueless when it comes down to what caused everything.
But you wouldn't understand that because you, like many of the other atheists here, seem bitter ("you fuckers").
Science and "beliefs" aren't exactly interchangeable.
People don't believe in Bernoulli's theorem. They understand it.
Believing in it won't exactly do anything.
We're not exactly clueless btw, there have been a few theories on how we(the universe) have come about and the one perpetuated by the "holy" books have been the least likely to have happened. In my opinion.
p/s: I guess not everybody can afford a shrink, going to the confession box seems to be more economical in these difficult times.
Utterly ridiculous? Now that's insulting. I beg mother spaghetti for his noddley forgiveness and may she bless your soul.
(get it? it goes both ways)
Well you see the thing is Thore, Zeuse, allah etc etc all seem just about as ridiculous as the FSM to me and many others, that's the point of it, they're all equally likely. You think the FSM is 'utterly ridiculous', do you think the same of the other 'gods'?
BluuueJammm said:
Both of you clearly didn't read my post and have any clue what I actually believe in and am arguing.
Yes, I think it is utterly ridiculous that a child born in a third world country with no chance to even grasp religion or God is damned to burn in hell for eternity.
clyde said:
No, I don't get it. I'm arguing that it's logical to believe in unexplainable forces that mankind literally cannot comprehend. Afterlife is something that we cannot experience until after our physical life. The only argument for it would be people that have near death experiences - which are extremely interesting and all evidence they provide would be contrary to what you believe in. We cannot fully comprehend something metaphysical in a completely physical world.
You're arguing that flying spaghetti pooped out planets and is responsible for the universe. It's clearly being used as an insult, where the beliefs I'm proposing are not insulting at all.
I never said the earth is 5,000 years old. I never said Moses parted a sea and people walked through it. I never said God turned people into pillars of salt. Get your facts straight when you want to argue with me about my beliefs.