Why people do CS anyway?

teguh123

teguh123

New member
Sep 13, 2007
853
16
0
I've heard someguy that says that he has an autoblog with little money from adsense.

He CS amazon.com and make $300/month.

In my humble opinion, that's not a good idea.

Why not redirect traffic to amazon.com straight? How come Cookie stuffing be more profitable than honest straight forward traffic redirect to amazon.com?

Anyone knows how amazon.com work? Does their cookie is too short? does Amazon cookie only applicable for the specific product?

Say you promote TV and then people ended up buying google cellphone do you get credit?

Now, I do not like CS. But who am I to judge others. I am death curious really. I mean I know some people cookie stuff eBay in guess, what, eBay. That makes money. Then I also know that some spammer want to get credited for his promotion but want to hide his email. That one I think is quite legitimate but why not just choose spam friendly sponsor?

Like spam, cookie stuff is worthy to understand. Why? Because it tells us what sponsor works on untargetted traffic!
 


ncmedia said:
^ lol - you guys sure this isn't a bot? This is worse than DP (wait... double checks url bar, ok..).
Click to expand...
Teggie is not a bot.

@Teg, this is a better question for BHW. No one (intelligent) on WF is going to out themselves as a cookie stuffer, with all of the networks watching.
 
Fawltyscript.png
 
you can cookie stuff on non-sales pages. giving your cookie to a end-user.
if they go to ebay or amazon and purchase before the cookie expires you get monies.

that is why it works, and why it can be more profitable that targeted traffic.
 
The reason people do it is simple: money.

But it is stealing another affiliate's commission. Like didn't Digitalpoint's owner get sued for cookiestuffing DP for Ebay? DP was not a niche store. But if anybody bought something from EBay weeks after reading something unrelated on DP, DP would get the commission instead of the affiliate who really referred them.

With that said, I don't really care if other people do it. I just have to step up my own game to remain competitive.


You guys think Teguh's English is bad? You should see some of the retards in Japan. They study English for like 25 years and if you ask them "How are you?" the reply you get is "EH?!" ("Huh?!") and they get this terrified, desperate look of panic on their faces.

Teguh's English is pretty good if you compare him to most people on Earth.
 
Bombastic said:
The reason people do it is simple: money.

But it is stealing another affiliate's commission. Like didn't Digitalpoint's owner get sued for cookiestuffing DP for Ebay? DP was not a niche store. But if anybody bought something from EBay weeks after reading something unrelated on DP, DP would get the commission instead of the affiliate who really referred them.
Click to expand...

How could the referral be tracked, when the cookie has a 7 day TTL? Please refrain from propagating half-truths.
 
mattfca said:
you can cookie stuff on non-sales pages. giving your cookie to a end-user.
if they go to ebay or amazon and purchase before the cookie expires you get monies.

that is why it works, and why it can be more profitable that targeted traffic.
Click to expand...

This one I would understand.

A long time ago, 10 years ago, my first IM is spamming. Boy I earned a lot. But then Cj.com slap me. So I hide my cookies somewhere. They caught me anyway.

But seriously. One guy in BHW said that he cookie stuff amazon and makes more. If I were him I'll just redirect to amazon.com and live a peaceful life. Maybe he's afraid of google

At that time I made so many geocities websites. So I do not need a spam proof hosting. Now, I think we can use redirectors. Works all the same.

Now the reason I am in wickedfire is because I want to know what affiliates allow spamming allow forum spamming, etc.

I wish I have time to do it again. Those credit card offers are doing great. Also there was mercata... And then cyberrebate. Ahhh good old day.

Usually the more "evil" the affiliate network, the less they judge us.
 
DP cookie stuff?

Another that puzzle me is how in the earth this is not a crime. Now, I got friends in BHW doing it and I don't want them to go to jail. I want them to repent instead. But man....

We can get a way with a lot do we?

Bombastic said:
The reason people do it is simple: money.

But it is stealing another affiliate's commission. Like didn't Digitalpoint's owner get sued for cookiestuffing DP for Ebay? DP was not a niche store. But if anybody bought something from EBay weeks after reading something unrelated on DP, DP would get the commission instead of the affiliate who really referred them.

With that said, I don't really care if other people do it. I just have to step up my own game to remain competitive.


You guys think Teguh's English is bad? You should see some of the retards in Japan. They study English for like 25 years and if you ask them "How are you?" the reply you get is "EH?!" ("Huh?!") and they get this terrified, desperate look of panic on their faces.

Teguh's English is pretty good if you compare him to most people on Earth.
Click to expand...
 
I thought people were talking about counter-strike. Does it matter what kinds of cookies I stuff with? Do chocolate chip cookies last longer than peanut butter cookies? I really like sugar cookies and snicker doodles, but are the effective for cookie stuffing? It seems my tastes in cookies don't matter, it's all about the user...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by teguh123
This one I would understand.

A long time ago, 10 years ago, my first IM is spamming. Boy I earned a lot. But then Cj.com slap me. So I hide my cookies somewhere.

I got to clarify here. I mean the advertiser's website, without cookies did get opened. However I didn't use my tracking link there. I didn't want to get caught spamming. So the cookie is somewhere else. The effect is the same as if the advertisers website is opened with my tracking link except that it's harder to find who the affiliates are.

At that time I was quite reasonable. If you bid on eBay for DC290 camera, wouldn't you want to know that you can buy the exact same thing in say, mercata.com? Of course I pissed of the seller but the buyers are happy. So I was like a thread jacker at that time.

But it's real traffic and half.com and a credit card company does make money out of it. There are some lines I don't cross (at least not yet). My guess was that cj just turn a blind eye given that they make money anyway. The anti spam rule is just a facade so they don't look like spammer.

The anatomy of spam is those who complain don't buy. So we need to get rid the bad apple from the good ones. It's stupid to put your affiliate link straight in the email right? In CL for example, people will have to email you and you put your site in the autoresponder. It's the same with xrumer. Those where your link stick don't report. It's the same with friends. Those who help you don't hit you. No matter what you do, some will like it (buy) some will hate it (complaint). Avoid hatters.

That being said it's so easy to just look at the cookie file and see my username there. After a few months one of my account was banned for unrelated issue and somehow they look closer. Then I bought email lists rather than scanning them my self. Bad idea.

Now I no longer need to do so. There are plenty of affiliates that allow spamming. As safeguard they can check whether it's real credit card filling their pocket or not before they pay me ;). Thanks to wickedfire.

Long time after that, I learned about cookie stuffing. I was like? Why? Even if the cookie is stuffed, what are the chance people actually buy if you don't open the real affiliate website? That's what I am curious. But then, some affiliates like amazon.com ebay.com is so big. Still I don't get why a more honest way of opening affiliate link straight can't be more profitable. I am no longer spamming email anyway and no longer need to hide how I promote.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom