what's a good linux os?

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I have an old Dell desktop laying around that's not getting used. I've never tried linux os before and thought I'd install it and play around with it. Anyone recommend a good linux os that's easy to install and will have drivers for an old Dell Optiplex GX270?
 


I stuck Puppy on an old 1.6ghz 1GB IBM a while back and it was fucking smoking fast and worked like a dream. (Likewise, a linux n00b - also tried Mint, which is quite good.)
 
ubuntu is definitely more user-friendly. Both are good OSes, but ubuntu has a larger following, so there's more community support, which also helps for noobs.

You're probably right there. I can't remember the last time I did updates from a GUI in Fedora.

On the other hand, I've had Ubuntu cause major issues on my netbook when they decided to change from python 2.6 to 2.7 mid stable release, and later when the device stopped booting entirely for no apparent reason. I've had ubuntu suddenly just die on me several times on desktops, but never as strangely as on the netbook.

I can't remember the last time I had to do any driver tweaking in Fedora. Flash is still a cunt in chrome.
 
You're probably right there. I can't remember the last time I did updates from a GUI in Fedora.

On the other hand, I've had Ubuntu cause major issues on my netbook when they decided to change from python 2.6 to 2.7 mid stable release, and later when the device stopped booting entirely for no apparent reason. I've had ubuntu suddenly just die on me several times on desktops, but never as strangely as on the netbook.

I can't remember the last time I had to do any driver tweaking in Fedora. Flash is still a cunt in chrome.

Moving between major releases of Ubuntu (8.10 to 9.04 and 9.10 to 10.04, specifically) has caused issues for me in the past, but excluding this, I have no idea WTF you could be referring to.

Re: Python 2.7 getting installed by default "mid-stable release" -- 'apt-get install python' in Ubuntu 10.04 still installs python2.6 for me, and moreover, I have python2.5, 2.6, 2.7 and 3.0 all on the same machine without conflicts.

On the topic of choosing a distribution to use --
Before 9.04, I could understand why a power user might prefer Fedora or Debian or CentOS, either because of their familiarities or because of how these distributions are setup by default, but, in my own opinion, since 9.04 Ubuntu has displayed remarkable stability and continues to maintain an incredible pace of updates. If you're an end-user (desktop/laptop use), 9.04 marked the first release where I felt the OS was "more stable" and "more ready" for consumer adoption than paid alternatives (OSX and Win7), and because Canonical puts out a new version every 6 months (with consistent quality and always delivering great new updates) I consider Ubuntu to be the best candidate for any task. Moreover, in my opinion, adoption rates should be a primary factor in making decisions about open source software, and Ubuntu's the clear winner here; Every cloud provider available in the libcloud python package for remote server management supports 10.10, which has been out less than 2 months, and this speaks volumes about it's uptake.

For anyone hosting their own servers --
I fucking love running the same OS on my laptop as I do on my servers; on a good day, I'll launch and configure 10 new servers*, and having a unified workflow and a single package manager to maintain familiarity with has proven crucial to my ability to get shit done.

*(my development process includes writing scripts to create a new server from scratch, so I launch a new cluster of servers every time I have a new fix to test. It's not unusual for me to do this 3-4 times a day with 2-3 machines per cluster)
 
Yeah, ubuntu is the easiest, but you can use it and never learn linux on the other hand if you keep on clicking around.

I started playing with slackware and even though I had no idea what it was doing at first, it helped to understand linux faster. What do you need linux for? Install centos or fedora as a server if you need some admin experience. Dont install gnome or kde, plain console for learning.

Ubuntu is the easiest and probably the prettiest one though. If you want to impress your friends, go for it, add some compiz packages.

I use ubuntu on my browsing pc, cent os on servers.
 
Yeah, ubuntu is the easiest, but you can use it and never learn linux on the other hand if you keep on clicking around.

I started playing with slackware and even though I had no idea what it was doing at first, it helped to understand linux faster. What do you need linux for? Install centos or fedora as a server if you need some admin experience. Dont install gnome or kde, plain console for learning.

Ubuntu is the easiest and probably the prettiest one though. If you want to impress your friends, go for it, add some compiz packages.

I use ubuntu on my browsing pc, cent os on servers.

All your points make sense, but it doesn't seem like you've thought this through --
Ubuntu "can" be the easiest to use, and CentOS "forces" you to learn how to be an admin, but if you already know how to be an admin, and intend to use CLI instead of GUI when possible, why would you choose CentOS? And if you want to learn to server admin, is it *possible* to do so on Ubuntu? (hint: yes)
Why do you fragment your workflow between two groups of enthusiasts who setup your system in different ways because they zealously believe their way is best?

Software stacks are like religions. People fight about minor differences between them even though the underlying implementation is largely the same. Unlike religions, you don't go to hell if you choose the wrong one, and nobody will really judge you for switching if you've got a valid reason to do so. I don't give a fuck who's right, but I'm not an academic, I'm here to make money. IMO, pick one and drink their punch until it kills you. We're talking about the platform you host your entire online business upon; you will never be a Priest if you spend half your week in Synagogue.
 
IMO, pick one and drink their punch until it kills you. We're talking about the platform you host your entire online business upon; you will never be a Priest if you spend half your week in Synagogue.

Yeah, I agree with you, picking one is a better way to start. I was using Red Hat before Ubuntu came out, so it is a little more convenient for me to use cent OS. There are a few pluses and minuses here and there but they both serve the purpose. If I were to start, I would pick Ubuntu. I guess the main point I had is just to utilize CLI more. :)
 
i find it funny the guy asked for suggestions and installed the first one someone typed.

but yeah, unbuntu is a good one. Might wanna try Mint too ( based off ubuntu )
 
actually, I had been checking it out myself before anyone replied, and decided to download it. I haven't had a chance to install anything yet. It's just an extra desktop I have laying around and just wanted try out a linux product.
I'm a bit familiar with mattseh's products and his association with dfb and consider him a reliable source.

i find it funny the guy asked for suggestions and installed the first one someone typed.

but yeah, unbuntu is a good one. Might wanna try Mint too ( based off ubuntu )